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Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:17 AM

If gas goes to 5.00 per gallon

Will you give up Internet to save money?
I posted this in another thread but am curious.
I just cant help but wonder if it is part of a plan to break up the national and global wide connection of occupy.

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Reply If gas goes to 5.00 per gallon (Original post)
libtodeath Feb 2012 OP
CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #1
Rene Feb 2012 #20
CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #28
Iggo Feb 2012 #2
libtodeath Feb 2012 #4
Iggo Feb 2012 #11
jberryhill Feb 2012 #3
libtodeath Feb 2012 #5
jberryhill Feb 2012 #6
Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #17
ohnoimscared Feb 2012 #27
Zalatix Feb 2012 #35
greytdemocrat Feb 2012 #7
libtodeath Feb 2012 #13
aikoaiko Feb 2012 #8
RebelOne Feb 2012 #41
flobee1 Feb 2012 #9
Robb Feb 2012 #10
kctim Feb 2012 #12
marmar Feb 2012 #14
rurallib Feb 2012 #21
CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #29
Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #15
Bluenorthwest Feb 2012 #22
Spider Jerusalem Feb 2012 #24
WI_DEM Feb 2012 #16
Bruce Wayne Feb 2012 #18
Sherman A1 Feb 2012 #19
obliviously Feb 2012 #23
Javaman Feb 2012 #25
cleanhippie Feb 2012 #26
sarcasmo Feb 2012 #30
Beacool Feb 2012 #31
FarCenter Feb 2012 #32
guitar man Feb 2012 #33
Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #34
oldhippie Feb 2012 #36
Fumesucker Feb 2012 #37
TBF Feb 2012 #38
pampango Feb 2012 #39
snooper2 Feb 2012 #40

Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:22 AM

1. Might be more than 5.

 

If we get into war in the Mid-East. I ride my bike. Not drive my car. And row my boat. And grow my garden. And switch to drugs.

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Response to CAPHAVOC (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:45 AM

20. I've been wondering what else the R's would do to defeat Obama

Their ridiculous slate of candidates won't unseat him.....
but
Would forcing high inflation by election time......like happened to Jimmy Carter.....cause political setback for O

I think these climbing gas prices are being intentionally done so there will be a politically unstable scene by November. high gas costs will = inflation

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Response to Rene (Reply #20)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:38 AM

28. On the other hand....Romney?

 

Don,t think that trick will work.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:31 AM

2. People will do the same thing they did last time.

Park the SUVs.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:35 AM

4. I only have one vehicle

so that is what I have to drive,it is a small 4wd pickup that I need for the bad winters here and to get firewood in.
It will be 10-20 dollars a week out of my pocket so will be looking to save somewhere.

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:03 AM

11. Except for you, I guess.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:34 AM

3. How long do you think cheap gasoline is going to last?

Perhaps you should take a look at what the rest of the world has been paying for gasoline for a very long time now.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:37 AM

5. True

but a lot of those places have public transportation so lots of people dont have cars or the miles to travel back and forth to work.

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Response to libtodeath (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:48 AM

6. Like BART?

The wholly fascist and intolerable BART, whose operation is a threat to global freedom and liberty?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:31 AM

17. In Germany, more than 60% of the cost of gasoline is in taxes....

So that is a major factor. UK, also you pay more in taxes than you pay for the product itself.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:53 AM

27. interesting...

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:51 PM

35. It's not just gasoline that's going up... it's "peak everything".

 

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:56 AM

7. Huh?

"I just cant help but wonder if it is part of a plan to break up the national and global wide connection of occupy."

You're kidding right??? Gas going up is to stop Occupy???

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:09 AM

13. I didnt word it right

not to stop it but would occupy have taken off across the country the way it did without the internet and places like DU spreading the word and events.
That was my thought although maybe a bad one.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:57 AM

8. Nope. Fortunately, gasoline is still a small % of my monthly bills.


But I realize that is not so for many folks.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:42 PM

41. Yes, fortunately, for me too.

I have been retired for 2 years now, and only use my car to go shopping. I never go far from home because I have shopping malls and supermarkets all within a 5-mile radius. Usually, I only have to fill up my gas tank about every month and a half.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 08:57 AM

9. I might look a little goofy

But I am planning on riding the moped on my 14 mile commute to work. Laugh all you want, but at 120 mpg, I could care less.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:03 AM

10. Given the real problems expensive fuel causes, you think it's to break up Occupy?

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:09 AM

12. No I won't

 

Besides, gas is about money, not breaking up a few thousand people.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:10 AM

14. .....watch the economy slip back into a coma.

nt

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Response to marmar (Reply #14)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:45 AM

21. The oil companies ability to manipulate gas prices with impunity

is the secret weapon of the Repubs.
Jack up the price, cripple the economy and make Obama look weak when there is little he can do.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:43 AM

29. Obama says it is a sign of a great economic recovery. I kid you not.

 

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:24 AM

15. It's around $8 a gallon at present exchange rates in most of Europe.

Higher fuel prices are an inevitability given that there is a limited supply of oil, given that oil production has been flat since 2005, and given that demand continues increasing, mostly due to growing demand from China and India. Oil is at around $120 a barrel (Brent crude: $118; Alaska North Slope, $120; Louisiana Light Sweet crude, $122; West African Bonny Light crude, $120). You can ignore the reports on the news that oil is at $100 a barrel; it isn't. That's West Texas Intermediate, which accounts for c. 300k bbl/day of the US's 5.5M bbl/day production; the reason it's trading much cheaper than any other grade of crude oil in the world is because there's an oversupply at the depot in Cushing, Oklahoma, with limited pipeline facilities to move it out. It's not only not a global benchmark, it's not even a useful benchmark for the US oil market. And the last time oil was trading at this level the average US price per gallon of gasoline was around $3.50; any economic recovery is perforce going to increase demand and thus oil prices (as we saw in 2008, when crude oil peaked at $147 a barrel). This is the result of peak oil, of constraints on supply and of demand being greater than available supply. It's not part of any plan at all.

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:47 AM

22. And in most of Europe, more than half that price is taxes.....

In Germany it is more than 60% in taxes. Without the taxes, the price of the product is $3.20 a gallon. So it is not a fact that the market price of gasoline in Europe is more than twice what it is here, the fact is the taxes are much, much higher. Why not compare prices to prices and taxes on those prices to taxes on those prices?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:58 AM

24. Without taxes it's about $3.20 a gallon in the US, as well.

Current price per gallon in the Atlanta area, around $3.50; Georgia fuel taxes, 31.9 cents per gallon.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:27 AM

16. No, I'll just walk or take the bus more than I even do now (which is at least 3 days per week)

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:32 AM

18. If gas hits $5 a gallon, the Chinese will invade us...

on Segways!

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:34 AM

19. No, I would not give up the internet

I would use it more, in order to provide information, connections, entertainment & shopping options as I spent more time at home. I would cut back, but that would be in areas of traveling (which would be hard, as I don't use the car for much beyond the commute now).

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:58 AM

23. Your basement

Go to it now, Cheetos await!

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 09:58 AM

25. No it's not about the occupy movement...

it's about suppressing a population that was engineered to be addicted to fossil fuels so a very small group of ultra wealthy people could make unbelievable amounts of money off the stupid.

we have entered into an era where demand is out stripping supply.

As a result, the ultra-wealthy are trying to make as much buck as possible before it's impossible to maintain supply for demand.

Welcome to the new reality. It's just like the old reality, only it sucks a lot more.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 10:05 AM

26. If (when) it goes to $5, that will be the first step in the road to getting us off the oil...

It will be painful, people will have to make adjustments to their lives, and many will simply flail about and complain, but in the end, it will be for the best.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:46 AM

30. I would give up my car before I gave up the Internet.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 11:49 AM

31. Nope.

I was about to respond "as long as I have a job", but even if I didn't have a job I would keep the internet. How else would I look for another position?

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 12:28 PM

32. The cable TV goes before the internet access

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:43 PM

33. no

I'll just be spending more time on my motorcycle

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:48 PM

34. oil is a finite resource.

sooner people realize that, the better. This idea that we're somehow entitled to an endless cheap supply of it is delusional.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:51 PM

36. No.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:57 PM

37. Just the opposite...

Cut back on driving and get even better at hypermiling while doing everything possible online rather than driving.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 01:57 PM

38. Raising gas prices may be used to get at Obama

during an election year (what else can they do - their candidates are crap) but why in the world would it have anything to do with Occupy? Occupy draws from all age groups but I have to believe the majority are young - and if they are college students they probably bike/ride busses/walk more than drive anyway.

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:35 PM

39. Of course gas is going to $5 a gallon. It will happen. The only questions are 'When' and 'How do we

prepare for that day'.

I don't know if $5 gas is coming this year, next year, etc. but it (and much worse prices) is coming. The policy question is "Do focus our efforts on keeping gas as cheap as possible for as long as possible then when the inevitable more expensive gas finally comes, hope against hope that we can scramble and deal with its effects?" Or do we accept/promote a faster rise in gas prices in a way that funds alternative energy/mass transportation so that we are preparing for the day of really expensive/hard-to-get gas?

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Response to libtodeath (Original post)

Wed Feb 15, 2012, 03:36 PM

40. LOL

Yep, it's all part of the PTB's conspiracy to make you corporate drones

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