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DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 09:59 PM Jun 2013

Hey Straight DUers, I Have To Have A Word With You...

On this hot and beautiful Friday evening, with a lovely weekend stretching ahead of my partner and I, I am feeling truly blessed.

Not because of the deaths of DOMA and DADT, not because we have a President who, though maybe not always jumping up and down in support of gay rights, seems to somehow work behind the scenes to get things done without ever really talking about it much, but because I have found a group of straight people who stand so amazingly firm in support of gay Americans that it brings tears to my eyes.

Grannies from the South, weightlifters from Texas, moms who like ice sports, just so many amazing people who have taught me a thing or two about standing up for myself.

Thank you DU for being so staunch in your support of your gay members. I can speak freely and demand my rights because I have the strength of you people behind me. You all are teaching me how to do it.

I remember during the gay rights ballot initiatives here in the 80s. Heartbreaking to see so much hate aimed at gay people, especially when you are that young and trying to figure things out. And then one day I saw a "straight but not narrow" sticker on some cool dude's car and I burst into tears just being so grateful that someone decent had the guts to speak up. That's how you people make me feel every day.

Thank you very much straight people of DU. Your thoughtful support of LGBT people is truly special. In my life you are the Sun that balances out the darkness of the other side. I'd bet there are many gay DUers who would agree with me.

A beautiful weekend to you. May we all eat something delicious, see something beautiful and snuggle up to something (or one) that we love.

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Hey Straight DUers, I Have To Have A Word With You... (Original Post) DonRedwood Jun 2013 OP
K&R and back atcha! MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #1
What a beautiful message DR. You have a beautiful weekend as well ! nt Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2013 #2
Proud to be GLAD . orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #3
You're welcome and may ALL of our COALITION group/members stay SOLIDARITY!1 n/t UTUSN Jun 2013 #4
You might be surprised how many of us belong to PFLAG. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #5
But, but, you're just a grrrrrl ! :0) DonRedwood Jun 2013 #6
I wish there was a similar organization for children of LGBT parents. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #115
well...start one! usually that is more effective than wishing! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #148
Not a bad idea. I'll have to look into this more... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #149
Great post DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #7
even this? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #9
It's never too hot to curl up with a cat mythology Jun 2013 #23
I woke up the other night sweating like a pig and thinking I had a high fever. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #50
Mine sleeps with me every night. She seems to love the fan. She keeps me safe and helps me sleep! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #116
Mine do too. Many times I've had three. I love it during the winter (except that I can't move much) Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #117
We just want equality for all TxDemChem Jun 2013 #8
Things like that mean even more when they are coming from Texas! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #11
Thank you kindly. TxDemChem Jun 2013 #18
So nice! And thank you! babylonsister Jun 2013 #10
Thanks! And by the way, I don't even like marriage, but I celebrate your ability to choose. Gregorian Jun 2013 #12
I was single for 40 years.... that ended in a heartbeat. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #14
Hey, not supporting other human beings nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #13
For a lot of us, I imagine, this is a personal matter MrScorpio Jun 2013 #15
I've actually been considering going to SF to join the party Mr.Bill Jun 2013 #16
As someone with maybe total TWO straight friends IRL, closeupready Jun 2013 #17
Thanks! And I enjoy celebrating! But it was for selfish reasons... jazzimov Jun 2013 #19
All that matters is that you're an ally now! Politicub Jun 2013 #39
I'm glad you were paying attention! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #70
Seems like he's jumping up and down in support of LGBT rights to me. He's now in Africa, which Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #20
It's remarkable how much Obama has done, isn't it? Politicub Jun 2013 #40
But it'll never be enough. When Clinton signed DOMA into law, then went around the country Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #43
I absolutely agree. And on a nationwide level, maybe the most. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #71
I think he has clearly done the most... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #103
I agree. President Obama has been an amazing advocate for gay rights! bbkenn92 Jun 2013 #112
And we thank ye gay DUers for keeping us on our toes! And... arcane1 Jun 2013 #21
well guess who the straight people have been learning from Voice for Peace Jun 2013 #22
+1. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #82
congrats cprompt Jun 2013 #24
Now maybe we can move past sexuality labels Generic Brad Jun 2013 #25
To me there is no such thing as "gay rights". It all boils down to human rights. No sane society bluestate10 Jun 2013 #26
bluestate...just your comment alone is exactly what I am talking about. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #72
+1 Universal Human Rights. It's that simple. idwiyo Jun 2013 #88
Damn skippy. riqster Jun 2013 #92
thankyou Don olddots Jun 2013 #27
You're Welcome! Mahalo to you, DonRedwood Cha Jun 2013 #28
I agree. The most admirable kind of politics is on display when people stand up for other people... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2013 #29
Happy for you. riqster Jun 2013 #30
Right there with you, riqster! arcane1 Jun 2013 #33
No wine smiley, so... riqster Jun 2013 #42
We really need a wine smiley! arcane1 Jun 2013 #55
Oh, agreed. riqster Jun 2013 #56
Indeed, that's a great reason. Another great reason is that beer sucks! arcane1 Jun 2013 #63
Depends on where it's from. riqster Jun 2013 #64
A lot of us stand with you. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #31
K&R caseymoz Jun 2013 #32
Your rights are our rights Hydra Jun 2013 #34
Sadly, not everyone feels that way! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #73
Thanks for posting. a la izquierda Jun 2013 #35
DOMA was such an insult to the children of all those families. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #74
Likewise. a la izquierda Jun 2013 #140
We travel with copies of our domestic partnership in case we have to fight DonRedwood Jun 2013 #150
Wow. I can only imagine - for me of course, closeupready Jun 2013 #108
Thanks. a la izquierda Jun 2013 #141
I hate people that stick their noses into other peoples business. AAO Jun 2013 #36
"straight but not narrow". I love that. That is me. applegrove Jun 2013 #37
... DevonRex Jun 2013 #38
This is such summer-hazz Jun 2013 #41
A hearty welcome to DU! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #75
Thank you for the welcome summer-hazz Jun 2013 #84
I'm black. I'm a woman. And I'm straight. And I stand with LGBT!! Human rights!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #44
And I'll return that favor anytime!! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #76
Indeed!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #105
Wonderful Post Rooting for the Dems Jun 2013 #45
Not the same...We do understand, though. We married very young and not much... Tikki Jun 2013 #46
kr Norrin Radd Jun 2013 #47
Sometimes it just takes one person to open someone's eyes. Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #48
Thank you so much. Those compliments are rare and much cherished. Eleanors38 Jun 2013 #49
THen I need to say thank you more often because I see reason to every day on here DonRedwood Jun 2013 #77
KnRnBookmarked chknltl Jun 2013 #51
Well I just ate awesome Mexican food, vanlassie Jun 2013 #52
And thank you for having the courage to be who you are.... blackspade Jun 2013 #53
K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #54
I have a gay family member, so for me it is personal. alfredo Jun 2013 #57
I think everyone has a gay family member pnwmom Jun 2013 #68
Seeing your happiness makes me happy! dkf Jun 2013 #58
Thank you. That was lovely! glinda Jun 2013 #59
Once upon a time I had a gay cousin. He committed suicide in 1978, kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #60
My best friend did the same in 1980 DonRedwood Jun 2013 #78
How nice of you Don! redwitch Jun 2013 #61
What a lovely post TuxedoKat Jun 2013 #62
Aw Baby, you brought tears to my eyes. nolabear Jun 2013 #65
:) Th1onein Jun 2013 #66
Have a wonderful weekend! Lugnut Jun 2013 #67
I might have made it to a 50 year anniversary but I made a grave mistake DonRedwood Jun 2013 #124
Thank you for your post. pnwmom Jun 2013 #69
You're one of those people I was thinking of when I wrote this. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #79
Thank you, DonRedwood. pnwmom Jun 2013 #81
Agreed Fearless Jun 2013 #80
I thank you too. tblue Jun 2013 #83
The AIDS crisis hit our community hard in the 80s DonRedwood Jun 2013 #126
You are my hero! tblue Jun 2013 #151
aw THANK YOU Don Skittles Jun 2013 #85
having your back is the least we could do. cali Jun 2013 #86
K&R Its an honour and a duty, IMO. Thank you for your kind words, lots of hugs to you and idwiyo Jun 2013 #87
Well, we are family. Right? And we have sons, brothers, daughters, sisters, moms, dads, cousins... mnhtnbb Jun 2013 #89
WOw! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #127
Thank you sarge43 Jun 2013 #90
I support HUMAN RIGHTS etherealtruth Jun 2013 #91
Nice post. DCBob Jun 2013 #93
I went to school down the street from the Stonewall HockeyMom Jun 2013 #94
Aha!! I knew from your posts you had a special connection on this issue DonRedwood Jun 2013 #128
Wow, thanks. hamsterjill Jun 2013 #95
:0) People who have the longest path see the most DonRedwood Jun 2013 #129
love, baby bigtree Jun 2013 #96
Thanks, DR. DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #97
Wonderful message to greet the day with. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #98
No crying baby? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #130
Indeed. WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #142
celebrate this weekend, thank you for your message but your(our) fight is not over dembotoz Jun 2013 #99
Most families have members who are LGBT Ligyron Jun 2013 #100
Welcome to DU! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #132
What a wonderful post! lunatica Jun 2013 #101
I have no idea how many gay people I've known. Half-Century Man Jun 2013 #102
Me and the Mrs. walkerbait41 Jun 2013 #104
Well, thank you very much! ANd welcome to DU!! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #133
While gays may be the ones who seem to immediately benefit from this... Blanks Jun 2013 #106
These are all really excellent points. closeupready Jun 2013 #109
you always have such kind and thoughtful posts RainDog Jun 2013 #107
K&R sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #110
K&R!!! K&R!!! K&R!!! K&R!!! K&R!!! RKP5637 Jun 2013 #111
K&R Lunacee_2013 Jun 2013 #113
Absolutely! And a hearty welcome to DU! DonRedwood Jun 2013 #135
If I can't stand up for your rights. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #114
Don, another thing: Arugula Latte Jun 2013 #118
Lovely post. To the dismay or amusement of many co-workers, this southern granny has always txwhitedove Jun 2013 #119
I love grannies best!! Can't argue with a granny...just gotta say, "Yes'm" :0) DonRedwood Jun 2013 #136
K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #120
This is my town, St. Petersburg, Fl. happening this weekend. Rebellious Republican Jun 2013 #121
NICE! calimary Jun 2013 #146
Cool, you all need to be as equal as anybody. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #122
And thank you wryter2000 Jun 2013 #123
Beautiful post-you express my feelings too...n/t Rowdyboy Jun 2013 #125
Pity everyone doesn't have this kind of support, eh Rowdy? DonRedwood Jun 2013 #137
I wish you both a great weekend as well! Greybnk48 Jun 2013 #131
We need to get past this problem of attaching sexual labels to human beings Coyotl Jun 2013 #134
I had scotusblog up on one of my monitors at work prole_for_peace Jun 2013 #138
I've lost count of how many gay friends I have going back to 1972. SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2013 #139
I'm with you Chaco Dundee Jun 2013 #143
Damn, Don! This is the highest rec'd OP I've seen in months! Congratulations! Number23 Jun 2013 #144
Even cranky DU needs a Thank You every once in a while. DonRedwood Jun 2013 #147
"Straight but not narrow"! What a cool bumper sticker! calimary Jun 2013 #145
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
115. I wish there was a similar organization for children of LGBT parents.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:07 PM
Jun 2013

Speaking as someone who is incredibly proud of her black gay father!

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
148. well...start one! usually that is more effective than wishing!
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:30 AM
Jun 2013

I even know a few people I would send to your group!

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
7. Great post
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:07 PM
Jun 2013

One quibble: straight or gay, it's too damned hot for anyone to snuggle up with anyone else.

Seriously, thank you for your post. Have a great weekend.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
23. It's never too hot to curl up with a cat
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:34 PM
Jun 2013

Our feline overlords deserve our absolute surrender to their whims.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
50. I woke up the other night sweating like a pig and thinking I had a high fever.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:44 PM
Jun 2013

Then I realized, no, it was my Fuzzy Overlords snuggling up against me that had made me so warm. But, The Overlords must not be disturbed. So I toughed it out.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
117. Mine do too. Many times I've had three. I love it during the winter (except that I can't move much)
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:10 PM
Jun 2013

but when it gets warm, those little critters are like ovens. But I still love it.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
11. Things like that mean even more when they are coming from Texas!
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jun 2013

Thank you! It gives us great solace knowing there are still some Texas Democrats left! And, I truly mean it when I say I'll be supporting y'all down there in the next couple of elections as Texas turns purple then blue. :0)

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
12. Thanks! And by the way, I don't even like marriage, but I celebrate your ability to choose.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:12 PM
Jun 2013

I've spent my life single. But I can get joy from the happiness that you experience now that you share it. So thanks for lifting my life a little higher.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
14. I was single for 40 years.... that ended in a heartbeat.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:14 PM
Jun 2013

We all just want good company, I figure. I hope you have some of that! (oh, you're here... then you DO have some of that! :0)

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
15. For a lot of us, I imagine, this is a personal matter
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jun 2013

It is for me.

I want my gay and lesbian family members, who I deeply love, to have all of their rights in this country.

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
16. I've actually been considering going to SF to join the party
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jun 2013

and I'm not even gay. That city is gonna rock all weekend and beyond.

I'm only 100 miles north.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
17. As someone with maybe total TWO straight friends IRL,
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:15 PM
Jun 2013

many others online, I have to agree that it's been gratifying to watch people like David Boies and Eric Schneiderman and Obama and Hillary Clinton give us in the GLBT community such public support as time as passed.

Even some who consider themselves Republican have been elated at this ruling - I suppose because they hate religious fundies of ANY kind as much as many of us do, and their medieval attitudes about just about everything.

At any rate, I give this a hearty K&R.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
19. Thanks! And I enjoy celebrating! But it was for selfish reasons...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:24 PM
Jun 2013

I'll admit, I was homophobic for the first part of my life - because I was LIED to by the people I trusted. It only became clear to me when I started talking and LISTENING to my LGBT friends. That was when I realized that my beliefs were based on LIES. Or, at least, people who believed the same LIES I did.

So, really, it is for personal reasons that I am happy of the new rulings - for one thing, IT'S ONLY FAIR! And fairness and equality affects ALL of us!

So, yes, this new ruling is a strong blow for the LGBT community, but it is also a strong blow for ALL of us!

EDIT TO ADD: Spoken as a true red-headed step-child.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
70. I'm glad you were paying attention!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:12 AM
Jun 2013

A lot of people who stayed in the little town I was raised in, never did learn. They still believe all the lies even though they know me. I'm the "exception" to their rules about gays. very sad.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
20. Seems like he's jumping up and down in support of LGBT rights to me. He's now in Africa, which
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:25 PM
Jun 2013

is not necessarily friendly to LGBT, trying to push for LGBT rights.

This president has done more to support LGBT rights than any modern leader I know besides Milk.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
40. It's remarkable how much Obama has done, isn't it?
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:19 PM
Jun 2013

He said the gay community would be pretty happy about his presidency. He wasn't kidding!

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
43. But it'll never be enough. When Clinton signed DOMA into law, then went around the country
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

bragging about it, I never heard much from liberals. I've never witnessed the bashing of Clinton as I have of President Obama.

I think I know what's behind the disdain for this president, even though he has done more for LGBT equality than ANY president in the history of this great Republic. But I'll keep what I really think to myself.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
103. I think he has clearly done the most...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:20 AM
Jun 2013

Here's the latest:

Fast. New Obama admin memo provides 5 new benefits for legal spouses, children, after DOMA ruling http://s.shr.lc/125bobk @WashingtonBlade

U.S. Office of Personnel Management has instituted new guidance for married gay federal employees in the wake of the DOMA court ruling . . .

The memorandum, dated June 28 and signed by OPM acting director Elaine Kaplan, identifies five new areas of benefits that will be available after the court decision for the legal spouses as well as newly qualified children and stepchildren of gay federal employees.

“There are numerous benefits that are affected by the Supreme Court’s decision, and it is impossible to answer every question that you might have,” Kaplan, a lesbian, writes. “Nevertheless, I want to assure you that the U.S. Office of Personnel Management is committed to working with the Department of Justice to ensure swift and seamless implementation of the court’s ruling.”

The five new benefits identified in the memo are:

• health insurance through the Federal Health Employees Benefits (FEHB) plan;

• life insurance through the Federal Employees’ Group Life Insurance (FEGLI) program;

• dental and vision insurance through the Federal Employee Dental and Vision Insurance Program (FEDVIP);

• long-term care insurance under the Federal Long Term Care Insurance Program (FLTCIP);

• retirement benefits;

• and the ability to submit claims for medical expenses through flexible spending accounts.


read more: http://www.washingtonblade.com/2013/06/28/opm-lays-out-post-doma-plan-for-fedl-employee-benefits/

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
21. And we thank ye gay DUers for keeping us on our toes! And...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:29 PM
Jun 2013

And for leading by example in the biggest civil rights struggle of my lifetime!

(I was -3 years old when the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed )

When I see how many cards were stacked against you, even quite recently, and then see how much you have accomplished in such a short time, with so much loud opposition, I am INSPIRED!!"

A toast to my gay brothers and sisters!!!!!!!

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
25. Now maybe we can move past sexuality labels
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:39 PM
Jun 2013

We're all just people looking for love at the end of the day.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
26. To me there is no such thing as "gay rights". It all boils down to human rights. No sane society
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jun 2013

ever discriminates against people because of who they were born as and had no choice but to be what they are. Being gay is a condition of birth endowed by nature, not a choice that gay people made.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
72. bluestate...just your comment alone is exactly what I am talking about.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:18 AM
Jun 2013

You think we hear anything supportive on a daily basis? Many of us hear terrible things with nothing to balance it. DU is so unlike the rest of the world...vocal, supportive, territorial. :0) You all draw a line in the sand and say 'Don't cross my gay friends".

I just wish every gay teenager in America spent a month on DU... there sure the hell wouldn't be so many suicides.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
27. thankyou Don
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

progress is about equality and we have a long way to go but together nothing will stop us .

Cha

(297,123 posts)
28. You're Welcome! Mahalo to you, DonRedwood
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

for being such a strong advocate yourself and for expressing your thoughts so beautifully on DU.

And, thank you for acknowledging and appreciating President Obama's advocacy for GLBT Rights.

Aloha, to you and yours

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
29. I agree. The most admirable kind of politics is on display when people stand up for other people...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

... ON PRINCIPLE.

Without expecting to get or gain anything materially for themselves. K and R.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
30. Happy for you.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

Back when I had long hair, smoked grass and played rock and roll, people gave me shit, because I wasn't "normal".

You never forget being an "other", and anytime I see someone being dehumanized, it takes me right back to my misspent (and wonderfully so) youth. And I get hugely, massively, righteously honked off. (And I'm still an "other" to lots of bigoted people. Fuck 'em.) So we owe it to our fellow travelers to have each others' backs.

We are all, as George Carlin said, little hunks of protoplasm walking around: and we all deserve some dignity and respect. Here's to you and yours on this special weekend.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
56. Oh, agreed.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:53 PM
Jun 2013

I can't drink much these days (damned doctors), so a wine (and perhaps a Scotch) smiley are needed for the codgers amongst us!

riqster

(13,986 posts)
64. Depends on where it's from.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jun 2013

A nice Porter or Stout can cure most ails. Old Peculier is my fave, but it's hard to find, and it's not on my diet anyway.

As for American beer, it's like the Englishman said when he first tasted Budweiser: "Oh my God, man, put it back in the horse!"

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
34. Your rights are our rights
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

Literally. I've been the target of discrimination because people assumed I was gay. Funny enough, that pretty much stopped as being gay became increasingly acceptable.

I've also seen the level of general freedom increase as the LBGTQI community gains ground. It's good for all of us, and we should all continue to fight for it.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
35. Thanks for posting.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:13 PM
Jun 2013

I'm straight but my mom is a lesbian and my uncle is gay. The death of DOMA means so much to me.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
140. Likewise.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:08 PM
Jun 2013

Now, my mom always said she was happy I was the oldest, because if anyone ever tried to bar her partner of decades from, say, a hospital room, I'd pull everything in my power as her executor to tell them to take a hike.
Now, it looks as though someday she can marry her partner (she lives in NJ, so who knows with fuckface Christie). At any rate, this is a monumental step forward for my gay and lesbian relatives, friends, and countrymen.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
150. We travel with copies of our domestic partnership in case we have to fight
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:44 AM
Jun 2013

all of our inlaws are down in the deep red parts of the country....scary to go see them knowing my hubby could be barred at the hospital door of something happens.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
108. Wow. I can only imagine - for me of course,
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jun 2013

it's personal, since I'm gay - but to see it from your perspective... Very touching.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
141. Thanks.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jun 2013

One day, a new friend of mine asked why I was so virulently anti-Republican. I explained that two of the most important people in my life suffered because of socially conservative extremists, and she understood completely. Her sister is a lesbian.

Cheers and here's to moving forward!

 

AAO

(3,300 posts)
36. I hate people that stick their noses into other peoples business.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:14 PM
Jun 2013

So many hateful, bigoted people in this country. Luckily the good people outnumber the bad. Thanks for your wonderful thoughts, and now that DOMA is dead, I'm hoping as the bigots continue to die off, their children will learn the truth about human sexuality, and gender identity issues and things will get better and better. There's still a ways to go for LGBT people to get full equal rights in America, and I will do everything in my power to make it happen sooner rather than later.

Why can't people just LOVE and not be so hateful?

summer-hazz

(112 posts)
41. This is such
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jun 2013

a sweet note...
Im so happy for all who fought so hard, and so long....

Congratulations, and may we all be changed for the better!!!



 
45. Wonderful Post
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:35 PM
Jun 2013

Wonderful post, wonderful week! As Markos at Daily Kos says from time to time..."this is what winning feels like"! Best to you and all!

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
46. Not the same...We do understand, though. We married very young and not much...
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jun 2013

support. None from Tikki's family..no one from her family attended her wedding.

But the best mother-in-law supported us and 47 years later here we are a couple
who support ALL loving and committed couples in their marriage.

So happy that LGBT rights are happening. Still more to do, though.

The Tikkis

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
48. Sometimes it just takes one person to open someone's eyes.
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:40 PM
Jun 2013

When I was about 10 I had a friend my age who was really into theater in the Bay Area. She told me that she didn't understand why some people didn't like gay people because she knew a lot of them and they were all super nice. (This was the late 70s). I guess I was sheltered, because I'd never even heard the terms "gay" and "straight" at that point. I remember thinking, though: "Yeah, well, if people are nice, who cares? Why would anybody dislike a man because he likes men, or a woman because she likes woman?" That stayed with me always.

Celebrate good times. Come on.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
77. THen I need to say thank you more often because I see reason to every day on here
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:26 AM
Jun 2013

Sometimes it is overwhelming to see so much support when terrible things are happening. DU is pretty supportive about so much, but I've noticed that gay rights are a subject that is fiercely defended. FIERCELY. It's beautiful to see.

vanlassie

(5,668 posts)
52. Well I just ate awesome Mexican food,
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jun 2013

and the best thing I have seen in the last 24 hours was the rainbow SF City hall lit up (which I showed to my gay hairdresser who got engaged Wednesday and thrilled him too) and as far as snuggling... It was 103 degrees here at 6 pm so for that Ill take a raincheck! Congratulations!

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
53. And thank you for having the courage to be who you are....
Fri Jun 28, 2013, 11:48 PM
Jun 2013

All members of the LGBT community should be proud of who they are.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
57. I have a gay family member, so for me it is personal.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:00 AM
Jun 2013

Saturday is our Pride Fest. I will join in the celebration of another step toward equality under the law.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
68. I think everyone has a gay family member
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:59 AM
Jun 2013

somewhere in the extended family.

They just might not all be out. But give them time.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
60. Once upon a time I had a gay cousin. He committed suicide in 1978,
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:10 AM
Jun 2013

though I don't know why.

But I can guess.

I'm here because I was too young then to stand up for him. I no longer have any excuse.

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
61. How nice of you Don!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:10 AM
Jun 2013

But it is just the right thing to do. Mostly people are pretty decent and kind and it IS heartening to be reminded of that occasionally. We read and hear so much about people behaving badly that we forget.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
65. Aw Baby, you brought tears to my eyes.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jun 2013

Ain't no thang, you know, just being the way people were meant to be before fear showed up and warped some of us.

I can't think of a non weird way of saying this so I'll just say it. My gay and lesbian and questioning and trans friends make the world a better place. I'm privileged to know so many who fight every single day for the right not to hate but to love.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
67. Have a wonderful weekend!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:58 AM
Jun 2013

My husband and I have been married for over 46 years. My hope is that some day soon ALL loving couples can marry and shoot for the 50 year mark like we are. This granny is straight but not narrow.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
124. I might have made it to a 50 year anniversary but I made a grave mistake
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:09 PM
Jun 2013

My partner, whom I adore, and I are just at the 6 mark. But 16 years ago he asked me on a date and I told him no...because I thought he was waaaaay to young. Ten years later he asked me out again and I said yes. n By the end of the first date I knew.

I can't think of many regrets in my life but those ten years in between the first time he asked me and the second time he asked me. I have a feeling those years may be something I'm real sorry about.

But I'm just happy as a clam and will happily take each day as they come. Congrats to you on your 46. That is a truly beautiful thing!

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
81. Thank you, DonRedwood.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:40 AM
Jun 2013


In this one area at least, our country HAS been going in the right direction, and everyone on DU is celebrating that.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
83. I thank you too.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:09 AM
Jun 2013

I am not entirely sure that you aren't a greater gift to the rest of us, a lesson in love, compassion, and courage.

I am African American and I couldn't live with myself if I didn't reach out and embrace my LGBT brothers and sisters, just as good and decent white people fought for my civil rights.

I always think I should do more, but I thank you so much for your beautiful message. I am here always when the going gets rough. You just let me know. DU is so awesome. Watching The Daily Show and Bill Maher, I can tell there is growing, passionate support for equal rights. So happy. So proud.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
126. The AIDS crisis hit our community hard in the 80s
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:32 PM
Jun 2013

and the statistics said that black youth were next.

For me, growing up in small town America (we had one African American student being raised by a white family) black issues never came up. In my ignorance I thought the Civil Rights Movement had fixed everything. But when AIDS hit and gays were having to take to the streets in protests we started crying out that we needed to educate minority children immediately, it fell on deaf ears.

It was quite obvious to me that the Right Wing was perfectly happy to let the disease run its course through the gays and then the Black community. It was suddenly really obvious to this small town boy that things were not very equal at all.

That's when I joined the civil rights movement. Not my own fight, but the big fight. Before that AIDS was a gay fight for me, something grownups had to deal with, but suddenly all those inner city kids were at terrible risk. Getting the word out suddenly became about saving children and nobody had the resources or the knowledge except the gay people.

Sadly, so many of the gay people who were fighting that initial onslaught of the disease were gone within a few years. And wave after wave of death ripped through the gay community and the AIDS crisis grew big enough to demand attention, and then, Thank God, a Democrat became President and it became a national issue.

But I will never forget those early years when the gay people fought so hard to save inner city kids. It has never been discussed much because the people who were there to discuss it are mostly dead. But we had your back. Man oh man, did we have your back.

And that's how I learned the struggle is long and hard and won't be done during my lifetime. But this generation still has its work to do.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
87. K&R Its an honour and a duty, IMO. Thank you for your kind words, lots of hugs to you and
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:25 AM
Jun 2013

hope you have a great weekend too.

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
89. Well, we are family. Right? And we have sons, brothers, daughters, sisters, moms, dads, cousins...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 06:39 AM
Jun 2013

whom we'd like to see treated equally--and who are gay--too. In my case? Both my sons
are gay and both have significant others in their lives. I hope to dance at their weddings
some day.



DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
127. WOw!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:38 PM
Jun 2013

I sure the heck hope you do get to dance at their weddings! I hope my mom gets to dance at mine but we're still a domestic partnership state. :0( but she's only 78 and women her family live quite a long time so I'm hopeful.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
94. I went to school down the street from the Stonewall
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:55 AM
Jun 2013

and witnessed some very, very bad things growing up in the West Village in the 50s and 60s. My parents taught me you cannot look the other way when you see somebody being hurt, with words or with fists. If you do, you are just as guilty as they . We are all human beings, and Americans, with the same rights to live, love, and be who we are; black, white, gay, straight, male, or female.

Yes, I have a gay daughter, and relatives, but that doesn't really matter. I would feel the same if I didn't.






DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
128. Aha!! I knew from your posts you had a special connection on this issue
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jun 2013

You are one of the people who always stands out to me on this issue.

Now we know why you are so cool! :0)

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
95. Wow, thanks.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:01 AM
Jun 2013

I've posted before how I grew up in an environment that hated gays but once I was old enough to get out on my own, I realized that I believed each person should have the right to live his/her life however they see fit, that real love is beautiful no matter who or what, and that all people are deserving of respect. I may not be expressing this very well here, but your post meant a lot to me simply because I'm proud of myself for not living with the closed mind attitudes that I was raised under. I grew as a person when I finally understood. So...thank you.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
129. :0) People who have the longest path see the most
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:45 PM
Jun 2013

I'm proud of you too. Many people never bother to learn their own lessons, see their own world. You have had to come farther than some, you've had to figure out your own way, and look at how that struggle turned you into...well...a diamond. You have thanks and admiration from me!

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
96. love, baby
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:02 AM
Jun 2013

. . . it's all about love. How can anyone be against love?

More to the point, most folks recognize that their own rights as Americans don't mean spit while others are denied theirs. I'm damn glad we finally seem to be shedding the veils of ignorance and self-serving hatred and are embracing equality and unity as our national identity.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
130. No crying baby?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jun 2013

I was awoken by kitten attack.

But, I'm drinking coffee and reading responses, have cried several time, and, wow...just feel amazing having all you guys in my corner.

Sometimes it is the comments, not the OP that melts the heart.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
99. celebrate this weekend, thank you for your message but your(our) fight is not over
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 09:58 AM
Jun 2013

despite what the clowns on the supreme court said on voter rights--the civil right movement still has miles to go
and with the LGBT fight your journey is still early.
You have a great victory but the bad guys are still out there and man are they pissed.
so just remember as the fight continues at least for me and I hope the rest of du


we got your back

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
100. Most families have members who are LGBT
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:39 AM
Jun 2013

The vast majority of folks are more progressive thinking on DU for sure, but once any average family of whatever political or social issue encumbrances realize that one of their own is a non-hetero. WOW, CD for sure.

Once they overcome the Cognitive Dissonance involved, which is usually resolved by deciding the LGBT community maybe ain't so awful after all, things get better. Usually.

This is especially so once they meet some of their family member's other LGBT friends. Easy to hate in the abstract but difficult once you know the individuals involved.

That fact that so many people have come out in the last 5 years really helped. I look forward to even more people coming out, which encourages even more to come out and the chain reaction this type of movement produces. It won't be all unicorns and puppies, there will be ugliness at certain times and in certain places and much more needs to be done legally; but things are definitely improving, moving in the right direction and there is just no stopping this train.

Thanks for your post, we all have much to celebrate in this!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
101. What a wonderful post!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:49 AM
Jun 2013

It was a gay person on DU who made me understand how painful it's been to be gay and still not have the rights that everyone else takes for granted. It was the Gay community who made this happen by educating those of us who would listen.

Thank you!

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
102. I have no idea how many gay people I've known.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

For 3/5ths of my life, being out was fairly dangerous. The remaining 2/5ths,It just didn't matter so much cause things have been gradually getting better. All the way to where we are now, less than halfway to home.
The same with racism and the sexual equality. Religious equality. Where someone's feet might have first touched the Earth. What combinations of sounds someone might use to thank someone else. My point being, we have a lot of road left.
So Don Redwood, enjoy your respite in the roadside grass on this hilltop. Soak up the sunshine. Grab a little snuggle time. I think you deserve it. We'll see you presently further on down the road.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
106. While gays may be the ones who seem to immediately benefit from this...
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jun 2013

It really is all of us that benefit. Just because marriages are recognized for same sex couples doesn't mean that only gay people benefit from it. This gives people the ability to take care of each other - to stand together against the world.

It is a human rights issue, it grants people the right to designate someone that is not family - as a family member.

Obviously, the majority of people who will benefit from it will be the LGBT community, but they will not be the only ones who stand to benefit.

It is a victory against health insurance companies.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
109. These are all really excellent points.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jun 2013

Even as someone gay, I hadn't thought of it in this way. Thank.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
107. you always have such kind and thoughtful posts
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 11:34 AM
Jun 2013

thank you for your spirit of goodwill and peace.

...and thank you for the kind words.

hugs to you.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
113. K&R
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013
Just got done talking with one of my gay friends about the demise of DOMA. It's gonna be a good weekend, isn't it?
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
118. Don, another thing:
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:14 PM
Jun 2013

We women know that gay people have been stalwarts in the fight for reproductive rights, even though access to abortion doesn't necessarily affect a very large proportion of them personally.

So, I'd like to thank all the gay people who have fought the good fight for that on behalf of us "breeders."

We're stronger when we stick together!

txwhitedove

(3,928 posts)
119. Lovely post. To the dismay or amusement of many co-workers, this southern granny has always
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jun 2013

supported equal rights for all. You would be surprised in Texas. I've lived in small town-TX and met more LGBT persons than ever who were very much loved by all and a big part of their communities.

Wishing you a beautiful and snuggly weekend too!


 

Rebellious Republican

(5,029 posts)
121. This is my town, St. Petersburg, Fl. happening this weekend.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 12:53 PM
Jun 2013

I am not gay, however I am proud of my town and many of my LGBT friends are having a great weekend here as we speak!

St Petersburg Mayor Signs First Proclamation and Accepts Stonewall Invitation

Wednesday, June 19, 2013 – With less than ten days until the start of the official LGBT Pride week in Tampa Bay, St Pete Pride’s Executive Director Eric Skains and Board President Aaron Horcha met with St Petersburg Mayor Bill Foster to receive the first LGBT Pride Proclamation signed by the Mayor of St Petersburg.

“Communication went multiple directions for the past few months to make today happen,” says Eric Skains, Executive Director of St Pete Pride. “The people of St Petersburg and Tampa Bay should be extremely grateful to live in a community so accepting of diversity.”
http://www.stpetepride.com/news/st-petersburg-mayor-signs-first-proclamation-and-accepts-stonewall-invitation/


All Eight St Petersburg City Council Members Sign LGBT Pride Month Proclamation

St Petersburg, FL, Thursday, June 13, 2013 – Mid-way through LGBT Pride Month, St Pete Pride is pleased to announce all eight members of St Petersburg City Council, which include Charlie Gerdes, Jim Kennedy, Bill Dudley, Leslie Curran, Steve Kornell, Karl Nurse, Wengay Newton, and Jeff Danner, have signed the LGBT Pride Month Proclamation for St Petersburg.

Council Member Jeff Danner, whose district the annual St Pete Pride events are primarily held, read aloud the proclamation which stated: “the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) community is inclusive of our sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, nieces and nephews who contribute to making St Petersburg a beautiful place to live, work and play.” He concluded the proclamation by stating, “we the Members of St Petersburg City Council do hereby proclaim the month of June, 2013 LGBT Pride Month in St Petersburg and urge all citizens to join in eliminating discrimination in all forms, and to celebrate the diversity of our community.”

This is the first proclamation signed by all eight members of the St Petersburg City Council in St Pete Pride’s eleven year history.
http://www.stpetepride.com/news/all-eight-st-petersburg-city-council-members-sign-lgbt-pride-month-proclamation/

Celebrate Pride Month in Paradise

St. Pete Pride Street Festival and Promenade
With the unfurling of a larger-than-life rainbow flag, the St. Pete Pride Street Festival and Promenade kicks off annually the last Saturday in June.

During the Promenade, hundreds of contingents parade through seven blocks of downtown St. Pete’s Grand Central District. The Promenade spiritedly dissolves into the Street Festival, a block party that roars with live music, food and drink concessions, vendor exhibits and activities. Participation has swelled in recent years to nearly 90,000 fun-loving attendees.
http://www.visitstpeteclearwater.com/articles/celebrate-pride-month-paradise

wryter2000

(46,032 posts)
123. And thank you
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 01:39 PM
Jun 2013

Thank you for allowing us to share in the joy of what happened on Thursday and the weddings that are already happening (again!) in California.

Onward now, because we have to secure full equality in all the states.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
137. Pity everyone doesn't have this kind of support, eh Rowdy?
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:55 PM
Jun 2013

Imagine how many gay youths would have no self esteem issues if they read DU every couple days.

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
131. I wish you both a great weekend as well!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:48 PM
Jun 2013

And congratulations AND it's about time. I wish my Uncle Frank was still alive to enjoy this. His nickname in his social circle was "The Queen of Pompano" for his wonderful parties according to his Obit. He was funny and cool and I miss him.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
134. We need to get past this problem of attaching sexual labels to human beings
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jun 2013

There are no straight or gay DUers, just DUers!

prole_for_peace

(2,064 posts)
138. I had scotusblog up on one of my monitors at work
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 03:45 PM
Jun 2013

and my brother and I were emailing back and forth about everything happening. We are both straight but we both emailed each other at the same time that we were crying and then that made me cry more and I had to close my office door before someone noticed.

and even typing that just now made my eyes well up again.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
139. I've lost count of how many gay friends I have going back to 1972.
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 05:00 PM
Jun 2013

That's when I committed myself to a career in music. Working side by side with gays and straights, where gays often are the wittiest and most talented, I have had an up close and personal look at this fight going back decades.

My personal journey took me to England in 1972, which meant that I was out of the country for Watergate and Roe v Wade. What I find upsetting today is that so many battles that were won by the mid 70s are ongoing and never ending. I think we need each other when people's rights are being taken away. Whether it's voting, marrying, or birth control, there are extremists who want to control us.

I share your joy, and will be there in the future for civil rights for all of us. I hope compassion leads those of us divided on various issues to seek the better path and know who the real enemy is.

Chaco Dundee

(334 posts)
143. I'm with you
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jun 2013

I happen to be straight,and nobody ever gave me a hard time about that,so I can't imagine what you went through,but my support is with you and I envy your courage.

DonRedwood

(4,359 posts)
147. Even cranky DU needs a Thank You every once in a while.
Sun Jun 30, 2013, 01:28 AM
Jun 2013

I thought the Supreme Court was gonna stomp on me this week...and the only thing that made me feel strong, was hearing the people on DU so firm and resolute. It gave me strength!

And thanks were in order.

:0)

calimary

(81,195 posts)
145. "Straight but not narrow"! What a cool bumper sticker!
Sat Jun 29, 2013, 10:09 PM
Jun 2013

What a great slogan! Something we should maybe try to repeat a few times. Should be said, read, and spread!

Much love and many hugs to you and your partner, DonRedwood! Hope you have a great weekend - and light work-week ahead - then leading into yet another great weekend!

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