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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:40 PM Jun 2013

So... how did YOU become a Rand Paul follower?

Last edited Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:03 AM - Edit history (1)

I think it's time for some personal stories. Cautionary tales.

In my case, I read the Fourth Amendment to the US Constitution, and am told that I immediately flew into a rage against African-Americans fell in love with Rand Paul.

How about you?

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(P.S. please make sure you req the following OP:
DNI and ex-Booz Allen VP James Clapper: Iraq 'unquestionably' moved its WMD to Syria)

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So... how did YOU become a Rand Paul follower? (Original Post) MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 OP
The same day I read the Fourth Amendment and coincidentally joined the KKK! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #1
I had a lobotomy and suddenly it all became so clear! Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #142
I just followed the line at chow time. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #2
You mean to tell me the whole you've been at Gitmo you've never had a meal? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #95
I was told I was burnodo Jun 2013 #3
Rumor had it that I'm the love child between him Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #4
This thread needs ProSense Jun 2013 #5
Finally! You reveal your sense of humor! Thank you! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #12
Hey, I can put up with using chemical weapons and such. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #72
Who are you calling out tonight? one_voice Jun 2013 #6
Oh noes! 99Forever Jun 2013 #9
Who gives a fuck what.. one_voice Jun 2013 #13
Uh... 99Forever Jun 2013 #18
First, I'm not your buddy... one_voice Jun 2013 #20
I didn't vote for Rand Paul either... 99Forever Jun 2013 #24
You might wann work on... one_voice Jun 2013 #41
What name did I call you? 99Forever Jun 2013 #50
I didn't say you called me a name... one_voice Jun 2013 #55
Okay then...you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. vaberella Jun 2013 #114
No one here is a Paulite either. I agree, wtf is wrong with people here. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #73
OMG - this subthread is priceless. I applaud your HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #25
Awww...bless you heart.. one_voice Jun 2013 #44
DU should make it more formal. Before being allowd to post an OP one must be asked this Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #19
You know it's funny you say that... one_voice Jun 2013 #23
Someone called me a racist? Who? Give me a name and I'll kick that person's ass. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #28
An attempt to deflate the observations as to all the new Libertarians on the site flamingdem Jun 2013 #27
Hmm. Whoever compiled the 14 names is slacking. I've got a list of 73. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #31
Make that 74. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #32
That's nuttin' Fuddnik Jun 2013 #76
Make that 57. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #79
Someone posted that an hour ago flamingdem Jun 2013 #34
I saw it and like I said, they are slacking. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #36
If that doesn't bug you then you don't care about trends flamingdem Jun 2013 #40
I won't rest until there is a libertarian bogey-man under every bed. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #45
Jesus Christ!!! I thought it was fucking dust bunnies. Autumn Jun 2013 #49
:) Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #59
I just cecked... zeemike Jun 2013 #71
Accessing your address from the NSA now. Libertarian to delivered in the next 28-45 business days Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #78
Oh thank god for that. zeemike Jun 2013 #90
do you have any libertarians in size S, im not sure there is space next to the commies Monkie Jun 2013 #140
Speaking of a sock flamingdem Jun 2013 #83
I have a list of 185 socks. Looking for at least one more for a match. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #87
I bet you do. There's plenty of loose flamingdem Jun 2013 #91
Can I have a Librarian instead? Fuddnik Jun 2013 #81
Sadly, no. Librarians are too courageous to hide under beds. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #89
Can I get a librarian in my bed ?... n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2013 #136
'I have here in my hand a list' and it's longer than yours! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #88
The Personality Cult is entitled to their enemies list. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #117
Name them then. Who are these 'Paulbots' on the site? Is there a list we can look at? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #80
Anyone opposing goverment surveillence is a Rand supporter...or a racist.... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #126
There is. It was a poll. I see no reason to make a big deal about it, but you can if you want: ucrdem Jun 2013 #135
Lol, I love Graham, one of the most entertaining people on DU. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #146
I was walking down the sidewalk.... ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #7
Thanks for the laugh & think Jun 2013 #17
Apparently, by posting on DU. One morning I woke up and a dozen or so DUers Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #8
I have long considered myself an RFK Democrat Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #96
My doctor suggested I buy some of his urine so I could sprinkle it on myself and cure my cancer. galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #10
It must have been a sexual thing for me . Autumn Jun 2013 #11
I always wondered why we were being told to do that! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #98
The only Rand Paul followers on DU are the strawmen invented by the Bush Obama Group. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #14
The "Bush Obama Group"... SidDithers Jun 2013 #22
They cheerlead Obama continuing Bush policy, and appointing GOP to adiministration. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #30
Keep digging... SidDithers Jun 2013 #35
... sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #99
Occupy folks accepted Paulbots and it didn't help them flamingdem Jun 2013 #33
I know several Paul supporters, in the 30yo + or - range. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #46
Yes it's a problem, their thinking is wafer thin flamingdem Jun 2013 #48
I don't buy into it a bit. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #57
I agree, we need to move left flamingdem Jun 2013 #63
Yeah, too bad Ron or Rand Paul don't believe in any of that......... thelordofhell Jun 2013 #105
Yep. A lot of the PaulBots are single issue supporters...Marijuana. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #107
This is a double whammy nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #53
I'm not smearing Occupy or saying they're the same as Paulites flamingdem Jun 2013 #64
How many general assemblies did you attend? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #65
I believe it. There were a lot of flamingdem Jun 2013 #66
You are free to that view. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #75
I'm much more concerned about all the Republicans Obama is placing back in power in his cabinet sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #108
Um. A tad off topic flamingdem Jun 2013 #112
Support for Republicans, support for Paul, same topic as far as I am concerned. Is it okay sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #116
about the same time I became a racist. it was BOGO, so I said, y'know, what the hey... KG Jun 2013 #15
Lol, there's an old Irish saying: 'You may as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb'! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #119
The day after I discovered I was a racist ... 99Forever Jun 2013 #16
Brilliant satire and conceit. Swift would be jealous!- nt HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #21
I read some really awful stuff like Universal Declaration of Human Rights. :( idwiyo Jun 2013 #26
Well Manny I got no excuses nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #29
An acquaintance of mine is a Republican operative MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #148
He can be very pleasant nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #149
Same way I became a "racist," apparently. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2013 #37
Clicked his link that said, "Follow me on Twitter" Mister Ed Jun 2013 #38
At first I only followed once and great while. You know, like after a hard day. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #39
Is that the new talking point? Rex Jun 2013 #42
Well, Rand Paul and I believe in the Pythagorean theorem, ergo I am a Rand Paul follower jsr Jun 2013 #43
Pythagorean theorem? zeemike Jun 2013 #82
It was when someone told me that Paul agrees with Al Franken on something, and I realized sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #120
You are behind the times, dude. The new thing is that cthulu2016 Jun 2013 #47
They are that good? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #51
Up next,"I became a troll for the Russians & the Chinese when I supported the 1st & 4th Amendments." Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #54
Funny story, actually. We bought the same toupee. nt nyquil_man Jun 2013 #52
How did that work out? Did you switch off days wearing it? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #56
I suggested exactly that. nyquil_man Jun 2013 #68
I loved Rand before I became a racist. Also, we work out at the same gym. progressoid Jun 2013 #58
Have you curb stomped anyone lately? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #60
I disagreed with the administration's prosecution of medical marijuana patients. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #61
I met him on an alien spacecraft, he had been abducted earlier in the evening... Safetykitten Jun 2013 #62
Well you are nothing if sheshe2 Jun 2013 #67
I'm voting for Markey too, of course MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #74
Before Rand Paul was born... malokvale77 Jun 2013 #69
It all started when we abandoned the gold standard. bluedigger Jun 2013 #70
We were dancing naked on the fire station roof, bong-toking, grilling weiners, and tossing M-80s struggle4progress Jun 2013 #77
WOW malokvale77 Jun 2013 #109
It's really the sort of thing that could happen to almost anybody struggle4progress Jun 2013 #113
You could be right... malokvale77 Jun 2013 #125
Never heard of him Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2013 #84
Find him filed under racist teabagger flamingdem Jun 2013 #85
Slipped WovenGems Jun 2013 #86
Well, after I ran over a sewer rat and it landed on his head... Thor_MN Jun 2013 #92
When I found out the fake Dr. Rand Paul Greybnk48 Jun 2013 #93
I am curious, how DID you become a Rand Paul follower? jazzimov Jun 2013 #94
That was almost as good an effort at satire as Manny's. Welcome to DU btw. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #123
Jeezus gave me a revelation! Fuddnik Jun 2013 #97
Then things cleared up and all you saw was an ass. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #121
I think I missed this in joke tavalon Jun 2013 #100
He's my confirmation saint. nt Deep13 Jun 2013 #101
I become aware of all the dog shit in my yard on a daily basis so I don't step in it. Lint Head Jun 2013 #102
Fucking fuck the Pauls and their bots! Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #103
Results of alert TransitJohn Jun 2013 #104
Thats a jury smack-down .... HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #110
Why should juries hide this thread when they refused to hide OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #111
Some people think that when they say something no one will respond, that is the end of the sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #118
I think you are right. OrwellwasRight Jun 2013 #138
Skinner has a fat ass? leftstreet Jun 2013 #115
First I heard malokvale77 Jun 2013 #128
I thought Skinner would be skinny. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #131
They've lost it. Too bad. And insulting Skinner? Idiot alerter n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #144
Thank you for posting this! Brilliant! Dear jurors, you ROCK! idwiyo Jun 2013 #151
Rather than mock Rancid Paul Coccydynia Jun 2013 #106
I got slandered and libeled by DU police state apologists. I said I liked Les Paul, Zorra Jun 2013 #122
Lol! You have to watch what you say, Zorra. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #124
They're making a list, and checking it twice. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #129
Santa lives in the BOG? Fuddnik Jun 2013 #130
They share a coldwater flat in fantasyland. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #133
Well that's what the hell you get for using French Autumn Jun 2013 #152
When I laughed at this... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #127
It was a tossup AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #132
How the hell did you confuse the rather svelte 1984 with 1000+ page Atlas Shrugged? Systematic Chaos Jun 2013 #137
I follow RP because I'm concerned wars are seeded by uncontrolled private/SECRET assault weapons patrice Jun 2013 #134
I fell asleep in late 2000 and just woke up Recursion Jun 2013 #139
One day I sat staring at my KKK robes... sibelian Jun 2013 #141
Better make more space on your wall, because you're going to fall in love with Alex Jones sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #147
Yep. blackspade Jun 2013 #143
Same as you. I read the constitution and won't pretend I didn't for anyone. Catherina Jun 2013 #145
there's a whole generation of kids now datasuspect Jun 2013 #150

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. This thread needs
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jun 2013

Rand.

Disappointing those who 'stand with Rand'

By Steve Benen



In March, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) launched a high-profile filibuster on the Senate floor, bringing attention to drone strikes and civil liberties questions that too often go ignored. But as the spectacle faded, a problem emerged -- Paul didn't seem to fully understand the issue he ostensibly cares so much about.

The Kentucky Republican wanted to know if the Obama administration feels it has the authority to "use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil." Attorney General Eric Holders said the "answer to that question is no." For many involved in the debate, the answer was superficial and incomplete -- who gets to define what constitutes "combat"? what about non-weaponized drones? -- but Paul declared victory and walked away satisfied.

Today, the senator went further, saying he's comfortable with drones being used over U.S. soil if the executive branch decides -- without a warrant or oversight -- there's an "imminent threat." Paul told Fox News:

"...I've never argued against any technology being used when you an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don't care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him. But it's different if they want to come fly over your hot tub, or your yard just because they want to do surveillance on everyone, and they want to watch your activities."

I realize it's difficult to explore complex policy questions in detail during a brief television interview, and perhaps if the Republican senator had more time to think about it, he might explain his position differently. But as of this afternoon, it sounds like Rand Paul is comfortable with the executive branch having the warrantless authority to use weaponized drones to kill people on American soil suspected of robbing a liquor store.

But flying over a hot tub is where he draws the line.

- more -

http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/04/23/17881782-disappointing-those-who-stand-with-rand

Drones to kill people "suspected of robbing a liquor store."



Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
72. Hey, I can put up with using chemical weapons and such.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:59 PM
Jun 2013

But, when they start messin' with my licker supply, they gonna get droned.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
6. Who are you calling out tonight?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jun 2013

Which OP? If you're not calling anyone out, are you actually admitting to being a Ron Paul follower, which is against the rules?

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
20. First, I'm not your buddy...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jun 2013

second, my side? What are you talking about?

I'm not a Republican, I didn't vote for them. Why are you accusing me of that?

WTF is wrong with people here.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
24. I didn't vote for Rand Paul either...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

... doesn't stop the Personality Cult from telling me I "support him." You should work on that temper thing.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
41. You might wann work on...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jun 2013

your name calling thing. Makes you look very childish.

My temper is just fine.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
55. I didn't say you called me a name...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

I said you might wanna work on your name calling thing. So, no I don't make shit up.

I was referring to you using this... Personality Cult & your transparency page is showing...

Some name calling there. Also did you really comment on my temper with a page like that?

vaberella

(24,634 posts)
114. Okay then...you seem to have a chip on your shoulder.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:53 AM
Jun 2013

The OP didn't seem to target anyone but wanted to be clear on something I'm a bit confused about. You jump into the conversation with cryptic language and when called on it; you respond with your personal angst that you are actually dumping on a poster who doesn't need it.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
19. DU should make it more formal. Before being allowd to post an OP one must be asked this
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jun 2013

questions:

What is your favorite col... (oops not that one).

Have you ever been or are you now a member of the Paulite Brigade?

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
23. You know it's funny you say that...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:57 PM
Jun 2013

with all the pissing and moaning that was done when you were wrongfully called racist. You now think it's funny to call out someone else.

Hypocrisy, it's what's for breakfast.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
28. Someone called me a racist? Who? Give me a name and I'll kick that person's ass.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

You post is making me very confuzled. Who did I call out and what did I call him or her?

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
27. An attempt to deflate the observations as to all the new Libertarians on the site
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

Someone just posted saying that he asked and there were 14 Rand Paul supporters on a DU thread!

I like to say "get your own forum Paulbots" and that might bother some here because even if they don't like them the know they are united in getting their hate on for Obama.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
40. If that doesn't bug you then you don't care about trends
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jun 2013

such as the trend of Libertarians taking over activist groups for the good of their saviors, the Pauls.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
49. Jesus Christ!!! I thought it was fucking dust bunnies.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:19 PM
Jun 2013

You better put another one under there, my Dyson fucked it up.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
71. I just cecked...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:58 PM
Jun 2013

Nothing but dust bunnies and a sock that has been missing for years....
Could you send one over right away?....I don't want to be left out.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
78. Accessing your address from the NSA now. Libertarian to delivered in the next 28-45 business days
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:06 AM
Jun 2013

by private contractor. Or USPS... whichever comes first. I'd bet on the USPS.

 

Monkie

(1,301 posts)
140. do you have any libertarians in size S, im not sure there is space next to the commies
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:38 AM
Jun 2013

im not sure i have space under the bed next my collection of commies, evil drug overlords, and muslim terrorists.
great posts, right on the money and funny.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
117. The Personality Cult is entitled to their enemies list.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:03 AM
Jun 2013

Tricky Dick Nixon and Joe McCarthy had them.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
126. Anyone opposing goverment surveillence is a Rand supporter...or a racist....
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:21 AM
Jun 2013

Its hard to keep track of the strawman du jour.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,868 posts)
7. I was walking down the sidewalk....
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jun 2013

And they were handing out free t-shirts. I can't pass on free shit so I signed up and now I hate the government and love the free market.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
8. Apparently, by posting on DU. One morning I woke up and a dozen or so DUers
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jun 2013

told me that I am a one. C'est la vie.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
96. I have long considered myself an RFK Democrat
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:17 AM
Jun 2013

since I felt that if Robert Kennedy had become President, we could have had the Great Society without the Vietnam War. Today, that apparently makes me a fringe left-winger who only wants ponies and rainbows. But apparently I'm a Randian now as well. I am really confused

 

galileoreloaded

(2,571 posts)
10. My doctor suggested I buy some of his urine so I could sprinkle it on myself and cure my cancer.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

All that happened though is I caught misogyny and my penis got larger and more scary/ threatening to half the worlds persons.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
11. It must have been a sexual thing for me .
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:48 PM
Jun 2013

I said fuck Rand Paul so much that it became an addiction. I blame EarlG

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
98. I always wondered why we were being told to do that!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:20 AM
Jun 2013

I remember someone asking during the Bush era, it was one of those patriotism tests: 'what would you do for your country, would you eg, be willing to sleep with Bush IF it would help your country?' Everyone was quiet for a while, then someone started singing 'I will do anything for my country, but I won't do that' and someone else joined in, and before long the whole room was singing it.

There are some things no one should be asked to do, no matter how noble the cause.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. The only Rand Paul followers on DU are the strawmen invented by the Bush Obama Group.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:50 PM
Jun 2013

Just because Libertarians and Liberals share some views doesn't mean they are equal. In fact, the corporatist Third Way wing of the Democratic Party has more in common with the Republican Party than Liberals do with Libertarians.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. They cheerlead Obama continuing Bush policy, and appointing GOP to adiministration.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

Bush Obama Group seems more appropriate than apologists, since they are unapologistic in their support of Bush policy.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
33. Occupy folks accepted Paulbots and it didn't help them
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jun 2013

an iota.

Libertarians mean to destroy government, thus they're good at mucking up the works

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
46. I know several Paul supporters, in the 30yo + or - range.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jun 2013

Their aim is dismantling our corporatist govt. They are quite fine with keeping enviromental regulation, worker safety, consumer protection, a minimum wage, etc. All basically traditional liberal values. More than likely they would be Democrats, if corporate interests were not controlling the party. They probably don't represent ALL Libertarians...but do seen to be a sizeable number of the youthful ones.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
48. Yes it's a problem, their thinking is wafer thin
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:15 PM
Jun 2013

Sorry if you buy into it. It means they're open to Ron and Rand Paul at this point in history

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
57. I don't buy into it a bit.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jun 2013

IMO, no government is bad govt. I think better plan is to drag Dem Party back left. They view both parties as offering little economic future for them. I'm unable to convince them that having no govt is surrendering to corporate interests.

Many of them are musicians. One in particular is a brilliant musician, vocalist, and composer. He wrote this musical called Inertia: The Musical for his senior thesis. Produced several live performances of the show overseeing the work of 70 students from 5 colleges of the arts. It got all kinds of awards and accolades. I provided much funding for recording the soundtrack, and helped with mixing and mastering, and lined up the venue for the CD release.
Check it out and free listen here:
http://m.reverbnation.com/artist/inertiathemusical

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
105. Yeah, too bad Ron or Rand Paul don't believe in any of that.........
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jun 2013

How many times do people have to be told this.........RON & RAND PAUL ARE REPUBLICANS

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
107. Yep. A lot of the PaulBots are single issue supporters...Marijuana.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:43 AM
Jun 2013

They don't care what party he is, or what else he believes.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
53. This is a double whammy
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:27 PM
Jun 2013

Attack occupy and Paulites and smear them as same.

By the way, I know this is news to you, but occupy is still around.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
64. I'm not smearing Occupy or saying they're the same as Paulites
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:49 PM
Jun 2013

I saw the takeover happening as did many others. It was a shame and Occupy would have been better off without them.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
65. How many general assemblies did you attend?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jun 2013

I did, many. My experience in the field is that Paulites, racists and others were quickly isolated

They had a hard time getting heard, let alone reaching consensus. But what would I know? I spent many a night.

But you know who was really cute and locally did a lot of damage? A local Democratic Party operative, who was so bad not even the party wanted him either when all was said and done.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
66. I believe it. There were a lot of
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:55 PM
Jun 2013

opportunist around of every stripe.

I just cannot stand the Paulites, bottom line.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
75. You are free to that view.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:03 AM
Jun 2013

I realize that libertarians are far more than RW crazies, and as old as the country. Some even in the vaunted Democratic Party...indeed Bernie Sanders, a social Democrat, holds more than a few Classic Libertarian views. And to clarify, Bernie is an independent and to the left of the Democratic Party.

Anybody who has a certain reverence for individual liberty (no, not what Ron and Rand mean) are by definition libertarians. Some of the most famous even led a revolution against the mother country, our current junior imperial partner.

So perhaps it is that history degree, or that minor in poli sci...I don't know.

There is a reason why the libertarian party is number three in registration, has grown like gang busters since 1971 when officially formed. There also a reason it will not get to number two...that tent is insanely large...it goes well beyond the RW of the party...they are just the loud mouths.

In fact, more than a few would have been called FDR democrats. These days the left of the libertarians at times vote democrat, at times Green, at times stay home, at times they vote libertarian. The right at times votes libertarian, at times republican, some trend tea party.

And both national parties try to fight it. It s actually hilarious. But not all libertarians, as Hoopie tried to explain, are RW Rand Paul fans.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
108. I'm much more concerned about all the Republicans Obama is placing back in power in his cabinet
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:44 AM
Jun 2013

after we worked so hard to throw them out, than ordinary citizens joining a Global, anti-Wall St. Corruption movement. Good for them for seeing the light.

Does it bother you at all that Obama has appointed so many Republicans to his cabinet?? What do you call Democrats who put Republicans in powerful positions in government if you call people who support Paul 'Paulbots'? Or are you happy to see all those Republicans back in power after we threw them out?

Was Obama unable to find any Democrats around to fill those positions? I could have helped do that, I can think of Democrats who are far superior and far more qualified than any Republican for those positions. But then, I'm a Democrat.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
116. Support for Republicans, support for Paul, same topic as far as I am concerned. Is it okay
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:59 AM
Jun 2013

for our Reps, like Grayson and Franken to support Paul, as they have on several occasions on legislation but not okay for ordinary people to agree with Paul on the same issues. And if so, why? Are Bernie Sanders, Alan Grayson, Al Franken, Kucinich 'Paulbots', or is it that sometimes people from opposite sides of the political spectrum can agree on some issues?

And all those Republicans Obama has appointed, on what issues do they agree with us? Airc, Comey is a very Conservative Republican. He did stand up to Bush on one issue and I admired him for that, but would never in a million years vote for him, let alone appoint him to a Democratic Cabinet, not when we have so many great Democrats who are qualified.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
16. The day after I discovered I was a racist ...
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jun 2013

.. for thinking the Constitution and people who took an oath to defend it while in public office were important matters.

idwiyo

(5,113 posts)
26. I read some really awful stuff like Universal Declaration of Human Rights. :(
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

But it didn't stop my descent into racism if that wasn't enough to fall in love with Ron Paul right there and than...



I became convinced it applies to EVERYONE. No qualifiers, restrictions, etc. I even think it should be applied to non-Human species like Great Apes (just one of the examples) and AI.

this is how and why I fell in love with on Ron Paul.

I am so sorry...



 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
29. Well Manny I got no excuses
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jun 2013

I actually attended a Ron Paul Rally.

http://www.eastcountymagazine.org/node/9598

I was a reporter...and my, the electricity and all. And after listening to Doctor Paul I was...converted.

I could not bring myself to vote for him in the primaries or the General. But there you have it.



In all seriousness I did. It was an experience I will not soon forget. Ron Paul is quite electric, and charismatic, I hope his son is not that charismatic or electric.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
148. An acquaintance of mine is a Republican operative
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:50 AM
Jun 2013

He had dinner with Ron Paul once. He said that for about an hour, Paul was a great guy, very charming. Then, suddenly, Paul got very, very weird - all kinds of nutty conspiracy stuff - all the gold being stolen from Ft. Knox was the CT that I remember him mentioning, but there was other stuff.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
149. He can be very pleasant
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:01 PM
Jun 2013

Now you want to get him, or his followers talking, as you said...federal reserve...when that rarely fails, IRS.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
37. Same way I became a "racist," apparently.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:04 PM
Jun 2013

I had the unmitigated gall to utter a word of criticism against The One, er...Barack Obama.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
39. At first I only followed once and great while. You know, like after a hard day.
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jun 2013

I would follow him just to take the edge off. Then I started following him every weekend. Then I started following him after school. Now I just can't stop following him. I follow him into the bathroom and watch him poo. I following him to bed and watch him sleep. I follow him around town and watch him beat up kids. I follow him to church and watch him sacrifice a goat to Satan. I followed him to an animal shelter and watched him burn it down. I'm hooked!

jsr

(7,712 posts)
43. Well, Rand Paul and I believe in the Pythagorean theorem, ergo I am a Rand Paul follower
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:08 PM
Jun 2013

Awesome logic, n'est-ce pas?

FAIL.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
120. It was when someone told me that Paul agrees with Al Franken on something, and I realized
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:11 AM
Jun 2013

I did too, so it happened sort of by osmosis.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
47. You are behind the times, dude. The new thing is that
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:12 PM
Jun 2013

people who read the 4th Amendment think that Russia and China are free and transparent nations.

As evidenced by the latest call-out, re: why wikileaks is mostly full of American stuff. This question is supposed to flummox the civil liberties cohort, despite having a rather obvious answer. (That Russia and China are both a mix of 1984 and The Sopranos and not places anybody should aspire to live right now and generally not nearly as good as the USA despite the USA sucking.)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
51. They are that good?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:25 PM
Jun 2013

I thought they were worst.

Before long they will call us commies, REDS I tell ya

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
56. How did that work out? Did you switch off days wearing it?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:33 PM
Jun 2013

You, Monday, Wednesday, Fridays.
Him, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturdays.

You & him both bad on Sundays?

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
60. Have you curb stomped anyone lately?
Sun Jun 23, 2013, 11:38 PM
Jun 2013

You're not down with the Rand unless you've stepped on some thug union guy's head.

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
77. We were dancing naked on the fire station roof, bong-toking, grilling weiners, and tossing M-80s
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:05 AM
Jun 2013

in hopes of making it rain, y'know, and then suddenly everything's, like, a time trip back into the nazi era, and the gestapo are swarming from every whichever, and this ossifer told me to give him my beer, and I told him he should get his own fuggin beer and not take mine, and he asked if I was drunk and I said I bet I could sign my name in piss on the sidewalk neater than just about anyone ...

Anyway, it finally dawned on me that the fascists hate us for our freedoms and, like, the government can't take a joke, which isn't what I had voted for

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
92. Well, after I ran over a sewer rat and it landed on his head...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:14 AM
Jun 2013

I kind of wanted to see if he would notice. I'm pretty disappointed...

Greybnk48

(10,164 posts)
93. When I found out the fake Dr. Rand Paul
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jun 2013

could not get legitimate accreditation and had the balls to create his own phony association using Daddy's money to fake accreditate himself! I thought anyone who is that crooked and that smoothe of a liar is the politician for me!!!

Oh yeah. As a woman. I love it that he hangs out with gunaholics that like to beat up women and stomp on their heads. Very macho!

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
94. I am curious, how DID you become a Rand Paul follower?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:15 AM
Jun 2013

Although I suspected it of you many times, I'm curious what turned you.

And as for your link trying to disenfranchise a single member, I can post a dozen more supporting other appointed members and/or supporting this single member that YOU have chosen to cherry-pick.

Really, Manny, your efforts have become so transparent that I can't believe that anyone who truly supports Democracy can seriously support those efforts.

You, sir, are trying to destroy our democracy and cloaking your efforts as "saving" our democracy.

Therefore, I am charging you - yes, YOU - as working towards destroying all that you claim to hold dear.

IMHO, you are a hypocrite.

I will admit that I could be wrong, but your posts make this point clear to me. You are a hypocrite and anti-Democratic Party.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
97. Jeezus gave me a revelation!
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:19 AM
Jun 2013

Knocked me right off the ass I was riding, and hit my head on a rock.

Then the skies parted and a brilliant light shone, revealing the Holy Virgin Ayn Rand riding Alan Greenspan!

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
104. Results of alert
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:34 AM
Jun 2013

At Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:20 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

So... how did YOU become a Rand Paul follower?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023079187

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Another callout thread from Manny. How about Skinner gets off his fat ass and takes back control of this place?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sun Jun 23, 2013, 09:29 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Sounds as if the alerter needs to be tombstoned for general asshattery.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: How about people like Prosense stop playing the game that causes these types of posts to be made in defense....like calling all who are unhappy with the NSA spy thing racists just because they are not lock step behind everything Obama does or says? Either these all go, or they all stay. DU incredibly sucks right now.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Oh my, alerter tantrum.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I like how the post is fine, but your alert is a clear TOS violation. So much fucking fail here, and it ain't from Manny.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
111. Why should juries hide this thread when they refused to hide
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:51 AM
Jun 2013

the thread that started it all?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3049348

This was allowed to stand so what's good for the goose and all that shit. Certainly if it is OK for your faction to call those who criticize the President racists, it is OK for those who are offended by such petty, petulant, and immature name calling to make sarcastic threads in response.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
118. Some people think that when they say something no one will respond, that is the end of the
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:04 AM
Jun 2013

argument. It never occurs to them that when you say something stupid, people will respond. Then they are shocked!

If only they would stick to the issues we all could do so. But now it's a free for all, thanks to those who could not defend their POV and resorted to that garbage.

OrwellwasRight

(5,170 posts)
138. I think you are right.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:27 AM
Jun 2013

They made the accusations and then criticized people for responding.

I don't understand people.

 

Coccydynia

(198 posts)
106. Rather than mock Rancid Paul
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:39 AM
Jun 2013

Democrats should wonder why it took a Teabagger to state the obvious, TWICE.

Democrats should be leading the charge against those who would trash any portion of the Constitution, whether that trashing be of the 4th Amendment through the NSA, or extra-judicial killings with drones.

Perhaps it is time Democrats take a good long look in the mirror.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
122. I got slandered and libeled by DU police state apologists. I said I liked Les Paul,
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:14 AM
Jun 2013

and they twisted it around and accused me of liking this Rand Paul guy.

I've never even heard this Rand Paul guy play, fer crissakes.

Dumbass conservative troll cretins hangin' around here...can't tell a C note from a duck fart..

Les Paul. I said Les Paul!








sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
124. Lol! You have to watch what you say, Zorra.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:20 AM
Jun 2013

And you have to admit, Les does look a bit like Ron!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
129. They're making a list, and checking it twice.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:27 AM
Jun 2013

Stay tuned for tomorrow's ridiculous accusations.

Autumn

(44,986 posts)
152. Well that's what the hell you get for using French
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:40 PM
Jun 2013

Using the French word Les was your mistake. The Paul, The Paul was what you should have said. Damn it, speak english. Now I'm going to go enjoy my darn freedom fries.






 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
132. It was a tossup
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jun 2013

I couldn't figure out which direction to go in life, so I put Atlas shrugged, Dianetics and 1984 into a bag. I picked one blindfolded and came up with Atlas Shrugged.

At that exact moment Rand Paul did a secret mind meld with me.


Systematic Chaos

(8,601 posts)
137. How the hell did you confuse the rather svelte 1984 with 1000+ page Atlas Shrugged?
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:19 AM
Jun 2013

Your hands numb or something?

and adding that I'm only joking, to make sure you know I'm not trolling you!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
134. I follow RP because I'm concerned wars are seeded by uncontrolled private/SECRET assault weapons
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 01:49 AM
Jun 2013

markets all over the world & Rand Paul is protecting those markets with the help of the gun manufacturers association, the NRA, by extorting the US senate and thus holding all other social and economic justice issues in this country hostage to the profits of filthy rich weapons manufacturers, who have the ongoing hope, because of various security leaks similar to what happened in Benghazi, of MIC continuing to receive most of the revenue that American taxpayers provide.

sibelian

(7,804 posts)
141. One day I sat staring at my KKK robes...
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:42 AM
Jun 2013

And I just felt kind of unfulfilled. I needed more weirdness in my life.

Also, I had space on my wall for another portrait and a shitload of unburned incense and I thought "why the hell not"...

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
147. Better make more space on your wall, because you're going to fall in love with Alex Jones
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

next, assuming you read the Constitution and think it's worth protecting and defending.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
143. Yep.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:23 AM
Jun 2013

I fell in love with Rand Paul so much I voted against his teabagging ass.
Just like my rage against African-Americans has made me a lifelong enemy of the KKK....

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
145. Same as you. I read the constitution and won't pretend I didn't for anyone.
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 09:35 AM
Jun 2013

Obama's situation is what it is. His legacy is his problem, not mine. My concern is getting political representation.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
150. there's a whole generation of kids now
Mon Jun 24, 2013, 12:06 PM
Jun 2013

that never read a paper copy of Mother Jones or UTNE reader.

they are thirsty for a hero.


beware right wing populism, folks.

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