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ProSense
(116,464 posts)TakeALeftTurn
(316 posts)because I for one don't find it funny at all.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)TakeALeftTurn
(316 posts).
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Projecting?
TakeALeftTurn
(316 posts)And giving long jail sentences to the boards of several other big banks - like Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Citigroup and the rest of the board of Goldman Sachs & JP Morgan.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)does it make hyping Daily Paul talking points justifiable.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)You never stop do you?
just because Ron/Rand Paul still support legitimate whistle-blowers, and seek to drastically
reduce the military, along with all the the secret illegal government spying programs,
does NOT -- I repeat does NOT -- mean that everyone who agrees with Paul on these
points should be subjected to your constant insults and derision.
Glen Greenwald has been around a long time, is widely respected in the field of
journalism, and is putting himself in harms way to cover these kinds of news stories.
If you don't believe me, go look again at Michael Hastings frying in his car that mysteriously
lost control and exploded, just before breaking a big new story.
Of course, you have a right to your own opinions, but I wish you would stop abusing others
in trying to get your points across.
In Truth We Trust
(3,117 posts)Pathetic. Good op
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that should suffice, right?
RevStPatrick
(2,208 posts)...she knows full well that Mr. Obama is BOTH a corporatist AND a Democrat.
Those two things are not mutually exclusive...
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)"There is no doubt that Barack Obama is a CORPORATIST not a Democrat."
well said
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)...that President Obama had no intention of pursuing the goals of Candidate Obama. I'm not a big marijuana advocate, haven't smoked it in years. Yet watching the disparity between what he said and what he did was the beginning of a series of ever-larger alarming changes in policy goals for his administration.
PB
SamKnause
(13,043 posts)I agree with you 110% !!!!!
Catherina
(35,568 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)I notice the usual Booster Club Boys and Girls aren't addressing the specifics of this list - just the conclusion:
The really sad thing is that by this list, he is a pretty typical mainstream Democratic politician. Most of this has been growing worse for decades. He can certainly be blamed for swimming with the tide rather being the mythical Hercules figure -- bender of rivers, stable washer -- some of us expected to be electing President of the United States. But, yes, he has disappointed most of us by not beeing seen trying to swim against the current to rescue more drowning victims.
Forget Hercules. Not even the Lifeguard we thought he'd be.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)Even when we had control of both Houses, not all Democrats were going along with anything remotely like real structural reforms. I guess that's the point I'd make.
Rooting for the Dems
(14 posts)I'm pretty far left myself but despite all you highlighted...much of which was true and much of which was over the top and less than fully true...I'd gladly vote for him again. I'm not an apologist but I do take responsibility for electing him. I'm happy for Obamacare. I'm happy he supports gay marriage. I'm happy that he's getting us out of Iraq. The world is about choices...and I'm happy I chose him twice.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)Doesn't mean I wouldn't infinitely prefer an actual progressive Democrat--that would make me happy.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)although we have the largest embassy "compound" in the world there, chock full of boots on the ground. It will be at least another year and a half before we're supposedly "out" of Afghanistan too. Just in time for the 2014 elections btw.
uppityperson
(115,674 posts)Some post loudly, many read. There are lots of smaller forums and groups and LBN is a great place to get new news.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Either we can live with it, or we can't. That's the choice. A lot of people don't like having to make such choices.
lark
(23,003 posts)I thought we were getting one in '08, but no, just another pol who's been bought by big $$, just like all the rest. There are a few who are really progressives, like Sherrod Brown, Alan Grayson, Warren, Sanders but we need a lot more to make a real difference.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)lark
(23,003 posts)I hope to get to vote for one of them sometime instead of the endless parade of corporate Dems.
jsr
(7,712 posts)if you're in the 1%.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Retains the Federal subsidies to the oil business, despite big oil having already had a decade of record profits "
Obama has proposed ending oil subsidies in every budget and other proposals. Congress, specifically Republicans, oppose it.
Obama budget seeks to end oil, gas subsidies
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x314016
Statements On Obama Budget From NRDC, CAP, & SEIA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022671045
This for the Ron Paul libertarians among us