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Sat Jun 15, 2013, 08:32 AM

Naomi Wolf Thinks Edward Snowden and His Sexy Girlfriend Might Be Government Plants

Moron CT alert:



The Beauty Myth and Vagina author Naomi Wolf is not sure about this Edward Snowden character. "I hate to do this but I feel obligated to share, as the story unfolds, my creeping concern that the NSA leaker is not who he purports to be, and that the motivations involved in the story may be more complex than they appear to be," the political and intellectual firebrand writes in a Facebook note today, as noted by Gawker. Before she gets to the evidence, though, she warns that her thoughts are nothing against the Guardian, which may have been duped: "It is just to raise some cautions as the story unfolds, and to raise some questions about how it is unfolding, based on my experience with high-level political messaging." Just saying!

Wolf begins by wondering about the neatness of Snowden's plan:

He is super-organized, for a whistleblower, in terms of what candidates, the White House, the State Dept. et al call ‘message discipline.’ He insisted on publishing a power point in the newspapers that ran his initial revelations. I gather that he arranged for a talented filmmaker to shoot the Greenwald interview. These two steps — which are evidence of great media training, really ‘PR 101″ — are virtually never done (to my great distress) by other whistleblowers, or by progressive activists involved in breaking news, or by real courageous people who are under stress and getting the word out. They are always done, though, by high-level political surrogates.

And that he's too well-spoken:

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/06/naomi-wolf-edward-snowden-false-flag-conspiracy.html







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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:38 AM

1. Will we ever know the truth? nt

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:56 AM

14. There is a meeting in July in Washington between top level Chinese and US

leaders -- an article yesterday posited the idea that the Snowden affair will be resolved by then. As in he'll be returned to the US.

Another article however pointed out that the wheels of justice move slowly between China and Hong Kong, so any edicts from China may take a while to effect and this is cover to keep him around in Hong Kong for a very long time, while pretending that action is being taken.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:48 AM

2. Really?



"great media training", "talented filmmaker" I don't think so.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:50 AM

3. I thought the "Beauty Myth" was pretty good

That was back in the 80s, I guess.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:51 AM

4. He went to the media, they know a thing or two about presentation

 

I respect Naomi, but not sure about this idea.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:52 AM

5. How would it benefit the government?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:52 AM

6. Echh. Sorry, but that's patented Conspiracy Theory talk.

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Throwing up a lot of vague, "what about this and that?" queries without any kind of rational narrative is the hallmark of the worst species of conspiracy talk. It implies and suggests and whispers that the "official story" cannot be so, while offering no plausible narrative of its own, and asking for an unsupported conclusion.

"I don't know what this hair is, so ... Bigfoot!" "I don't understand how an airliner could knock down a building so ... something something demolition!"

Guy strikes me as being a little full of himself. But he's not the issue. No one has suggested the docs produced are not real, or that the program we were told was "fixed" has not continued or expanded exactly as has been suggested.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 10:59 AM

7. Link to Naomi's full post:

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:00 AM

8. I would like to point out that Naomi Wolf is not Naomi Klein.

Naomi Klein wrote The Shock Doctrine.
Naomi Wolf writes somewhat lighter subject matter.

These two Naomis get mixed up all the time, so I just thought I'd remind people.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:06 AM

10. Thank you for pointing that out, Quantess. I actually get those two confused all the time.



PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:17 AM

11. Sure, no problem! You and most of the rest of us have a hard time remembering which one is which.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:47 AM

12. I mix them up too. But I'd be shocked if Naomi Klein took this view.

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Response to Quantess (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:58 AM

15. I mix them up too. Naomi Klein is brilliant in the sense that she

foresaw so much going on by defining the Shock Doctrine

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:03 AM

9. I have it on double super secret background...

Snowden could be Rove's agent. See how easy that is?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:51 AM

13. I expect we'll hear from Laura Poitras soon.

"Hey, I just made the film. He seemed fishy to me, too."



Stop looking for heroes. BE one.


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Response to cali (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 08:55 AM

16. kick, because NYM makes fun of this so slyly.

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