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Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:08 PM

In my opinion, the Sandy Hook Massacre carried a higher emotional toll than 911

I'm not referring to the victim count or the number of family and friends directly affected by 911. I'm talking about the millions of Americans who cried for days and weeks following Sandy Hook. Many are still crying six months later. I don't recall seeing that same visceral reaction after 911. The sentiment following the 911 attacks, if I recall correctly, was fear, anger, shock, disbelief.

So why is it that our lawmakers were swift in concocting legislation related to 911, but weren't able to come together to make sure our nation never has to face another incident like what happened at Sandy Hook elementary again?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:14 PM

1. In my opinion, there was a long visceral reaction after 911. Your list of fear, anger, shock, disbel

disbelief misses an important one of sadness for a hell of a lot of people.

I also do not see any purpose in comparing how many people cried after different mass murders.

If your point was how bushites shoved through legislation and attacked countries after 911 vs congress dinking around with gun legislation, that is another point.

And I do not see "legislation related to 911" that made sure our nation never has to face another incident like what happened " at 911.

Finally, what legislation would you like enacted to "make sure our nation never has to face another incident like what happened at Sandy Hook"?

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:28 PM

2. I think Newton really effected me more than the others also. But honestly I think

 

something like this to happen right before one of our most important holidays for children. I know that probably sounds terrible of me but that really sadden me. But I cried a lot at the lose of 9/11 and people who couldn't be found. Tragic.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:31 PM

3. LOL

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:31 PM

4. Because the post-911 legislation made some (well placed) people rich(er).

Any forms of gun control would limit profits.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:31 PM

5. Because our nation has a short attention span.

Six months later, I mention "Sandy Hook" and I get blank stares. Same with Aurora.

That, and fear/anger are easier to manipulate than sadness, in addition to the higher death count of 9/11 as well as infrastructure damage. To be blunt, outside of a "Feel bad" story, Sandy Hook really didn't catch much attention, and what little it -did- catch was forgotten by most.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:33 PM

6. May be a YMMV sort of thing.

After the first few days, no one I know has mentioned it except to discuss the need for gun control...but then, perhaps my friends aren't as emotional in general.

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Response to kiva (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:52 PM

10. agreed

 

coming from hearty blue color stock chock filled with tough people, we didn't cry over much. even though many among my people have suffered tremendously. kinda like a "keep a stiff upper lip" thing.

I'll be honest with you, extreme expressions of emotion make me very uncomfortable.

we had to fight for practically everything since we could walk, so i don't know much about allowing myself to feel vulnerable enough to show what i (probably incorrectly) consider weakness. in my family, boys don't cry. and the women are more often more badass than the men, especially where the kids were concerned.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:12 PM

17. This is me too.

I'm uncomfortable with this sort of grieving over people I don't know - I feel sorry, and often get angry, but I don't tend to cry over these things.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:44 PM

7. I don't know.

They were both horrifically tragic in their own ways.

The number of people crying has nothing to do with it. I'm not willing to belittle anybody's grief to make a 'score card' of sorts. My son and I were across the street from the now 911 memorial a couple of years ago. We saw the plaques on the firehouse. We clutched one another and cried. When I sw the Newtown moms on The View this morning, I shed a few tears.

I don't have any answers about gun control. I do what I can to support reasonable legislation.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:46 PM

8. 6 months later people are broke down crying in there house?...really?

send them to me so I can console them.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:47 PM

9. i don't know anyone who actually "physically" cried over that

 

but then i don't know any of the families, immediate members of the families, friends of the families, or people close to those families who suffered such tremendous loss.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:59 PM

11. Guess you didn't watch the video of the people jumping from the twin towers to escape the flames?

Like the couple who jumped holding hands.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:01 PM

12. Sorry, no way. Sandy Hook was...beyond horrible, but it was no 9/11. nt

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:06 PM

13. Scrambled Eggs. nt.

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:10 PM

14. I don't know. Remember all those New York Times profiles of 9/11 victims ...

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Many left behind babies, toddlers, young children ...

But I will say, the other day I was telling a friend about an animal sanctuary that is being created in memory of Sandy Hook victim Catherine Violet Hubbard, and I choked up. She used to catch insects but would let them go and tell them: "Tell all your friends that I am kind." Makes me cry every time I think about it.

https://www.facebook.com/CatherineVioletHubbardAnimalSanctuary?fref=ts

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Response to Arugula Latte (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:24 PM

15. Wow. What a superb little human being. nt

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Response to fried eggs (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:38 PM

16. I live in NYC and lost several friends in the WTC so for me 9/11 was worse.

I think if you ask most Americans they would say 9/11 but it might not be true for everyone.

I agree that after the tragedy of Sandy Hook congress should have been able to act and they should be ashamed they did not.

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