Angry dad murders his son,doesn't post lesson on facebook.

[Swede]

Authorities say three people are dead and two critically injured after a hostage standoff at a quiet Florida recreational vehicle park.

The Broward Sheriff's Office reports that 41-year-old William De Jesus fatally shot 76-year-old Ovila Plante late Thursday outside the older man's RV at Highland Woods RV Park in Deerfield Beach. De Jesus then barricaded himself inside the RV with his family and the dead man's girlfriend, who eventually escaped.

After a seven-hour standoff, a SWAT team entered the RV early Friday. They found De Jesus and his 9-year-old son dead. De Jesus' wife and 7-year-old son were suffering from stab wounds.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57375391/fla-sheriff-3-dead-after-rv-park-standoff/

[Ecumenist]

1. I get the tragedy of the murders BUT I don't get the Facebook angle.. There's nothing about

FaceBook in the article.

[Swede]

2. Of course you don't.

[lumberjack_jeff]

3. You don't get it?

Killing your father and your child is just like breaking a spoiled kid's laptop.

I'm happy to serve as your DU decoder ring.

[Swede]

4. By breaking you mean angrily shooting it 8 times.

Corrected that for you.

[Chorophyll]

6. I do see the connection.

I am not the least bit amused by the guy who shot his daughter's laptop. That kind of unhinged behavior tends to get worse.

[lumberjack_jeff]

8. You forgot "violently" and "brutally".

He murdered and assaulted that laptop. The horrors!

[Swede]

9. That kind of irrational act is pretty scary all right.

Next time he may use it on his daughter. Happens all the time.

[Ecumenist]

10. I must have missed something. What's the hubub about shooting laptops while disciplining one's

child? I've been in a hospital since Wednesday night. What happened, If you don't mind letting me in on it?

[Chorophyll]

12. See link below. For some reason, people think this guy is fabulous,

and not a potentially abusive rage-nut.

http://www.digtriad.com/news/article/213673/1/Albermarle-Man-Shoots-Daughters-Laptop-Posts-It-On-YouTube

[Ecumenist]

14. WTF??! This man is certifiable! What is wonderful about a man who SHOOTS HIS DAUGHTER'S

LAPTOP??!! Far as I'm concerned, the laptop was a stand- in for the actual daughter. How much time will it take before he actually SHOOTS HER?? Brotherman needs to be arrested and put into mandatory mental health treatment.

[Chorophyll]

15. I'm with you! nt

[FrodosPet]

22. Other than maybe discharging a weapon inside city limits

Or possibly vandalism, what do you charge him with?

Or is it OK to go around sticking people into mental health treatment because they say or do something that makes us uncomfortable? What specifically is the cutoff? How do we keep the authority to prevent potential crimes from being abused?

(I know, it sucks to have to look at an entire forest when all we are interested in is the pretty trees)

[Ecumenist]

24. Frodos, sorry but someone who does something like this has a screw loose. There's

no way you can justify or rationalise what this nut did. NO NORMAL PERSON WOULD DO THIS. I grew up with an EXTREMELY abusive "father" and I know pathology when I see it. Although I wouldn't characterise myself as a gun nut, I believe that people have the fundamental right to own guns BUT when they display this kind of behaviour, someone has to get involved. Trust me, if that daughter were around 10 or 11, CPS would be involved fast, quick and in a hurry. Frankly, I don't understand why they haven't gotten involved at this point.
You may seem to find it amusing that he shot the girl's laptop but I don't. In families with abuse issues, something like this can QUICKLY turn into a tragedy FAST! I have first hand experience in these typos of situations. This ain't funny nor is it the type of situation that should be minimalised. You must be looking at the rock garden because the trees in this forest are about to fall onto the family home.

[FrodosPet]

27. Supposedly, CPS and the police cleared him

It was a stupid, STUPID move, but reading and watching him doesn't give me the same creepies as others.

She was not harmed, and she got a valuable lesson about the power of the Internet to screw up your life.

But seriously, I have heard some f***ed up stories about what happens in foster care from my ex-wife, my "little sis", and a friend who have been through it. If you HAVE to pull children out of a home, you need to make sure they don't end up in a worse situation.

I am tempted to say we need clear, objective standards about when families are broken apart, but really, human behavior is too complex for inflexible standards. Some cases are clear cut. This, dead laptop or not, is not so clear.

(BTW I am in no way condemning the millions of loving foster parents out there. What I am saying is, they need to be closely monitored, with weekly visits and annual full scale evaluations, and that system cannot afford to be overloaded with children who don't NEED to be there)

[Ecumenist]

29. I understand and agree with your opinion of the Foster care system and frankly there needs

to be an overhaul of CPS. I didn't have that option when I was being beaten as a young girl by a "father" over 6'6" in height. Oftentimes, abusive men, (and women), hit "THINGS and pets" before they practise their violence on the actual person. trust me. This is a VERY dangerous situation. People who have never lived with this type of abuse don't understand what this can turn into, trust me.
How many times, when something tragic happens, is the home often photographed as having busted doors, broken windows, holes in the walls. etc? Trust me, this is a tragedy waiting to happen and I would almost bet you a fatburger, that we'll be hearing about a serious assault and/or murder in this household.

[hughee99]

13. Yes, he did so in BOTH a fit of rage and with malice aforethought.

He is an irrational man who will likely use the gun on his daughter next, kicks puppies, beats his wife and children, cheats on his taxes, and votes republican. You can discover everything there is to know about a person or situation from a brief youtube video or an audio clip. That's why I hate Alec Baldwin.

[Union Scribe]

11. And you equate that with a literal murder.

By doing so, you do disrespect the victims to make an illogical, empty point. Doesn't seem worth it to me, but whatever.

[geomon666]

28. Actually he seemed pretty calm to me

Almost zen like.

[TheWraith]

5. Yes, shooting something 8 times is a TOTALLY rational response to a teenager.

Who is only known to be "spoiled" by the definition of her father whose idea of rational, reasonable parenting is to put 8 bullets through his kid's laptop as punishment for her making a comment on Facebook that he deemed "disrespectful."

[boppers]

16. Well, he shot it once for the wife, as well.

If the daughter is bothered by it, she can buy her own personal laptop, and if he ever damages that, take him to court.

Of course, she'd have to get a job to do that, and since making her bed is "work" to her, chances of that happening seem small.

[TheWraith]

18. It's clear you're not applying any kind of skepticism to the father's claims.

Riddle me this: if someone is so completely out of it that they decide that wanton destruction and implicit threats are the right way to respond to their teenage daughter being "disrespectful," what do you think the odds are that that person is going to provide a completely unbiased and objective view of the situation, as opposed to coloring it with the version of events that makes THEM look best and most reasonable? Hell, people do that every day, in every situation, even when those people are doing things more reasonable and rational than shooting up their child's computer.

[boppers]

19. "wanton destruction and implicit threats"

Have you never shot a laptop before?

Have you shot *less* than 50 computers in your life? I have to be at least 100 by now.

I'm IT. Some servers tend to get... yeah.

Printers? "Staff meetings" will show up at the range to shoot it.

I do think he has his view, and his bias. He's a prick. His kid needs to learn how to deal with people like him.

[FrodosPet]

23. Never shot a laptop, but shot a can of "Juicy Juice"

Nasty stuff. Bought two cans, drank some of the first, decided it was watered down drek, so I shot the second with a .22LR. Little bullet, doesn't get much respect, but it can make a sealed can explode.

Ahhh, the foolishness of youth and testosterone.

I did get to take a sledge to telephones, answering machines and various other electronics that my store either could not get an RMA on, or which had a no ship RMA. Very cathartic and good exercise.

[Ecumenist]

25. Wraith...I completely agree. I grew up in a abusive home and this is neither funny nor

a small matter. For you-

[renie408]

7. Yeah, cause kids get spoiled all on their own and shooting the shit out of their stuff is

always the best way to deal with disrespect. I bet that little heifer will think twice about talking smack about her Deddy. And posting it on Youtube, that was the parenting coup de grace. Cause that was what it was all about, right? Parenting? Not his ego stroking or anything else.

[siligut]

17. That is my take on it, the video he made is all about him

I think he has traits of a narcissist. I posted this in another thread:

So what is a narcissist? Someone who preens in front of the mirror all day in admiration? NOT! Ask yourself this: is your partner intensely angered by anything that seems to suggest that he or she might have a flaw? Narcissists will do anything, including brutalizing their own family, to maintain their own feeling that others see them as without any flaws. And, narcissists have extreme and illogical sensitivities, sometimes connecting the most minute observations with their intense fears of being seen as flawed. Narcissists will strain every muscle to meet their own "flawless" image, and demean or destroy anyone or anything who casts any doubt on this image. If you see this dynamic in your partner, family member, coworker, or friend, you are very probably dealing with a narcissist.

http://tearsandhealing.com/narcissism-8.htm?utm_content=1-liv-ocomelove-dealwAb&gclid=CM3-1q26ma4CFacbQgodM0CFIg

[Ecumenist]

26. Amen, Siligut! nt

[Zalatix]

21. Bingo!!! n/t

[ZombieHorde]

20. We're all psychologists now!

Degrees are for suckers.

[Redstate Bluegirl]

30. Is there a law against that?

I mean NOT posting it on Facebook?

[Snake Alchemist]

31. sounds like he should have shot a laptop instead.

Our would that be worse?

[Iggo]

32. Wow!

He's an even better dad than that fucknut who killed that laptop!

Two for two on superdads! Yay!