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Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:55 AM

Bill Maher on Ronald Reagan last night - must see TV

Damn that was brilliant. Reagan was the original tea party member and sorry Bob Dole he would have fit right in with the party today.

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Reply Bill Maher on Ronald Reagan last night - must see TV (Original post)
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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:01 AM

1. I can't stand that fucker RR, worst thing to ever happen to this country

 

his stench is destroying this county.

The most fucked up part is the number od Dems who liked that POS and his policies, even today.

Righteous rant by Bill too!

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Response to YeahSureRight (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:06 PM

78. Welcome to DU, YeahSureRight!

Glad you're here. I've carried that in my heart ever since that bastard won in 1980. Hell, even before that, since we were blighted by him in California when he was governor. I thought he was the most dangerous man in America, if not the world, because of the oh-so-smooth and slick way he sold toxic and inhumane and downright un-Christian ideas and concepts to voters that they embraced with open arms as though it were free money - when it was always the worst thing possible that could be done to them, and against every last one of their best interests. Wrapped it all up like shiny objects in red-white-and-blue fairy tales, and people ate it up from coast-to-coast. Lulled them into brainless acceptance with his aw-shucks shtick and his amiable, harmless, kindly old uncle routine. And most of America fell for it, head first. Worst thing EVER to happen to our country. And we did it to ourselves.

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Response to calimary (Reply #78)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:17 PM

99. Yeah, I loathed him when he was Governor of CA, and I didn't live there. Bill is spot on about RR.

He committed the first blatant theft of the presidency with Iran/Contra. All of these sob's came out of Nixon's day.

People looking for a daddy figure bought his acting that was presented by a fawning media following Segretti's ratfucking rules to demonize Carter. He was the end of Fairness Doctrine and it's gone downhill since.

My life was the best it'd ever been in the Carter years with the movement for worker rights, less discrimination and a nation working to save its environment. This monster showed ups. Many Democrats bought his song and dance and voted for him.

They voted GOP after that, with the Atwater's strategy in place. I can't stand the sight of him. When I heard they might put him on a stamp or a coin, after seeing all the temples of Ronnie worship across the country, from airports and such, followed by the Bush temples of worship, I was beyond stunned.

It used to be things were not named after someone until they died, it was not seemly, but the GOP could not wait to enshrine their gods. Whenever I see either of their names, it's like living it all over again.

An entire generation think what he did, and what the Tea Party does, is perfectly okay. But then, they never knew anything better.

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Response to YeahSureRight (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:12 PM

133. Exactly-I want Dems to explain why they rolled over for him

No excuses-and that goes for the current President.

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Response to Boomerproud (Reply #133)

Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:28 AM

151. In the Beltway Reagan's two terms was PROOF that America had turned...

I guess they figure being a voting for a Conservative Republican is like vampirism,...there is no going back into the daylight.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:01 AM

2. du rec.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:04 AM

3. Makes me wonder though, who did Bill Maher vote for in 1980? He is NOT a democratic voter.

 

Could Bill have been another misguided person who voted for Ronald Reagan, then Bush41 in 1988?

Being that Reagan squeaked by and won a narrow victory that until a few weeks before was a dead even race.

We all know as he himself has said, Bill Maher is a LIBERTARIAN (THOSE ARE THE PAULITES/3rd partyites if I am not mistaken)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:07 AM

4. Can you prove you did not vote for RR?

 

Your posts vehemently support many of the same polices as RR.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:17 AM

7. Oh look! A turd in the punchbowl. Where did that come from?

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:04 AM

25. Like the usual place

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:47 AM

8. pretty frightening

that people hold the pauls as the standard for what libertarianism is...
expecially rand.. cause hes not...
lol
I think itd be interesting to hear what folks who thought of themselves as that label during the 60s think of these guys now..

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:48 AM

9. Couldn't care less who Maher voted for 33 years ago. He's comes down on the side of issues that

I like.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:51 AM

11. Maher was actually fairly conservative across the board 'til 9/11.

In the furor over his firing by ABC, he pretty much spelled out a litany of his own right-of-center , pro-military positions that... he argued... should have mitigated his factual and accurate ( but politically unspeakable) comments about the WTC attack.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:12 AM

17. How does any of that discount what Maher said in the video?

Oh right, it doesn't. Carry on.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:27 AM

20. I notice Graham the troll

...doesn't try to dispute what Reagan did to this country, but instead makes a half-assed attempt to muddy the waters by speculating who Maher voted for 30 years ago.. But then again, that's all trolls are good for; to try to distract a legitimate discussion with inane distractions...

Confession here: I supported that piece of shit Reagan during his first campaign, when I was 13 and didn't know any better. I got over any sympathy I might've had for the right-wingers when I was old enough to understand the nature of actually working for a living, so I can honestly say the repugs never got a single vote out of me, and never will.

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Response to Shade7M (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:18 AM

37. Yep,

Pitch a red herring and shoot the messenger. Two fallacies in the same argument is either the result of poor reasoning or low cunning.

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Response to Shade7M (Reply #20)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:23 AM

54. MILLIONS of people with AIDS died during Ronald Reagan's first term. I don't find it funny

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #54)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:55 AM

63. You do not help yourself by uttering implausible assertions.

Forget the fact that even if your claim were remotely accurate, which it isn't, it is a complete non sequitur.

Got a link for your claim that millions of people died from HIV/AIDS between 1980 and 1988?

Here's a clue:
1988
U.S. YEAR-END STATISTICS
82,362 cases of AIDS reported to date
61,816 deaths
http://www.amfar.org/thirty-years-of-hiv/aids-snapshots-of-an-epidemic/

I'll be generous in helping your search: http://www.popcouncil.org/pdfs/wp/pgy/016.pdf

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #63)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:59 AM

64. people who voted for Reagan/Bush/NaderEisenhower/Nixon got 100% OF what they wanted to get.

 

which is keeping the democratic party out of office

actions beget consequences.

and maybe I made a typo, but in a million years, I would never make a protest vote for anyone
being that 100 out of 100 times, the protest votes help the opposition, as the war protesters did when they
sold LBJ down the river to vote Nixon in and their protest led to the war going on another six years.

Which I myself don't find funny

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #64)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:30 AM

71. "and maybe I made a typo" - no "millions died" was not a "typo".

You got caught in yet another lie, and you do not have the integrity to admit it. You are not persuading anyone here of anything because your bullshit foo is weak.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #71)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:48 AM

76. anyone voting for Reagan got exactly what they voted for.

 

and I don't need to listen to 3rd party ites, Naderites, Paulites, or Jill Stine ites.
don't care 1% about their agendas, as it is against every single thing I believe in.

which is keeping Barack Obama's agenda going forward forever.

Inconvieneint truths the 3rd party people/altmedia want people to forget.
Look how Glenn G. manipulated old numbers so he could sell his libertarian wares.

how transparent. Bill Maher speaks out of both sides too every single day.

And gets paid MILLIONS for his big mouth.

Me, I never watch him, because consistently, I didn't like him in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, or today.
His biggest claim to fame was in that movie D.C. Cab. with Whitman Mayo the reason I went to see it.
(the director later made Batman).

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #64)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:36 PM

131. Those opposed to the Vietnam war did not vote for Nixon

It was the "love it or leave it", prowar anti-"hippie" type of Democrat who voted for Nixon.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:57 AM

24. RR won a narrow victory in 1980: With 489 electoral votes? 55% of the popular vote?

Obama wishes he'd "squeaked by" with such numbers. That's called a landslide, I think, when you win all but maybe 5 of the states in the country.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:12 AM

32. Reagan got 50.8% of the vote

Carter only got 41%, though, so it was still a huge margin. Moderate Republican turned Independent John Anderson got 6.6% of the vote, including my father, who had always voted Democrat until then. He didn't like Carter, but didn't trust Reagan, either.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:18 AM

36. 55% of the popular vote. Almost 91% electoral votes. Huge landslide that dreams are made of

from the Repubican perspective. It was Carter's fault, of course.

http://www.270towin.com/1980_Election/

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #36)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:15 AM

51. you're leaving out John Anderson

who received 5.7 million votes, or 6.6% of the popular vote, as a 3rd party candidate.

Ronald Wilson Reagan Republican California 43,903,230 50.75% 489
James Earl Carter, Jr. Democratic Georgia 35,480,115 41.01% 49
John Bayard Anderson Independent Illinois 5,719,850 6.61% 0

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=1980&f=0&off=0&elect=0

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #51)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:30 PM

109. The gap in the figures I quoted? Those were Anderson's. RR got 91% electoral votes & 48 states

or something around 48.

Anderson's effect is in the missing percentages, of course.

RR won in a HUGE LANDSLIDE. 91% of the electoral votes. And you would say that's a landslide, if it were someone YOU had voted for. Oh, and he also won the popular vote. Not that that matters that much, since we have an electoral college system. But it helps a candidate to have also won the popular vote, like Reagan did.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:28 AM

56. Add up 3rd party (repub Anderson to Carter, and take out the sabatoge of the Hostages(now proven)...

 

and the ACLU dreaded freeing of Oliver North (insuring ALL the Reagan/Bush team would never be prosecuted or looked into)

and Jimmy Carter would have won in a landslide
(plus if only Teddy ran any other race but that one).

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #56)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:22 AM

68. That's wishful thinking.

If every Anderson vote had gone to Carter, Reagan still would have won.

"Minus the sabotage of the Hostage" negotiations: That would have required exposure while it was happening, which wasn't particularly likely what with Bush being a former CIA director, and a lot of intelligence people ticked off at Carter and Ramsey Clarke.

And for lack of investigation you're blaming the ACLU? What about all the mainstream party Democrats, the forerunners of the current "centrists", who made sure investigations never dug too deep, and never went to the jugular. It wasn't the ACLU who said the following in 1986:
Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan (D-N.Y.), noting that he served in the Cabinet of Republican President Richard M. Nixon, urged President Reagan on Saturday to "clean house," saying, "This nation does not need and does not want another failed presidency."

Portraying the crisis over secret arms deals with Iran and clandestine payments to Nicaraguan rebels as transcending partisan politics, Moynihan told Reagan that "your presidency, sir, is tottering." And he added, "We want you to save your presidency, our presidency."

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-11-30/news/mn-483_1_white-house

I recall that John Kerry's investigations of Reagan were continually marginalized by the Democratic leadership.

I recall that once Bill Clinton came into office -- meaning that the targets of the investigations were no longer in a position to obstruct those investigations -- his people were specifically asked about getting to the bottom of a multitude of Reagan/Bush scandals, and the word was that "that's just not on their radar screen". "Look forward, not back" Version 1.0. You remember how the appreciative Republicans thanked him, right?

But hey, rather than hold the party leadership to account for their lack of action and even cooperation, why not grind some axes, eh?

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Response to JHB (Reply #68)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:34 AM

72. the problem with a devastating take down like your post

is that the target has his fingers in his ears and is singing "la la la la la".

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #72)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:47 AM

75. Fine by me. He's not who I was talking to. I was talking to everyone else.

There's a lot of convenient misremembering about the 1980 election, by both Republicans and Democrats. Which is a damn shame, because what happened then -- not just in the election, but in the internal dynamics of both parties -- are what set us on our current trajectory.

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Response to JHB (Reply #75)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:51 AM

77. I forgave Teddy, but it should have been Carter/Kennedy (and they should have given Mondale another)

 

the childish antics on both democratic sides helped lose

and anyone silly enough to vote for Reagan got exactly what they got (same as in 2009 and not voting for Corzine, bad as he might have been to some, anyone voting for Chris Christie
would be getting what they got)

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #56)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:22 AM

69. I think it would have been close

if the hostage rescue hadn't been a disaster (which many took as a symbol of the inept Carter administration), it would have been close.

However, while Carter had a lot of good ideas, he wasn't an inspiring leader and Teddy Kennedy running to his left hurt Carter with the Democratic base. As I said above, my father always voted Democratic prior to 1980, but voted Anderson in 1980 because he didn't trust Reagan and didn't like Carter and his religiousness. If Anderson wasn't there, he probably would not have voted out of frustration. Kennedy running in 1980 would have been the equivalent of Bernie Sanders or Sheldon Whitehouse (northeastern liberal) mounting a serious primary challenge to Obama in 2012. It would have highlighted the differences between Obama and a "true" liberal and possibly turned off the base that turned out so well in 2008 and 2012.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #69)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:41 PM

86. Reagan's numbers ticked up markedly right at the beginning of November...

...which I view as the effect of the often-talked-about "October Surprise" (Carter securing a peaceful, negotiated release of the Iran embassy hostages before the election) wasn't going to happen, which simply reinforced the image of Carter as weak and ineffectual. That, in turned, tipped a lot fence-sitters over to tough-talking Reagan.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #69)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:27 PM

92. I remember that election:

I voted for Ford in 1976.
Reagan visited our college campus in 1976 too.
I knew he was bad news.

In 1980, I had a few friends who supported Kennedy. When he didn't pan out the group supported Anderson. Then at the last minute they were calling everyone: Get to the polls and vote for Carter!!!!

(Most of us didn't have TV or anything at the time, so we weren't very electoral vote savvy)

I stood in a very long line and voted for Carter.
Unfortunately it didn't do any good.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:25 PM

125. And these days reagan would be tossed from the GOP

With screams of RINO! RINO! RINO! echoing in his ears.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:08 AM

28. Reagan won a narrow victory??!! I'll say this again even

though it's a waste of bandwidth. Pick up a fucking book every once in a while. Or do you say these ridiculously ignorant things when you get into character?

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Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:10 AM

30. Getting up off the floor

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:38 AM

41. Was graham for Ronnie? I sure wasn't. Obama, I think he voted Reagan if he even bothered

to vote back then, he has evaded the question many times, and he has praised Ronnie repeatedly. Bill votes Democratic, you are making up baseless libels. The man discusses his positions in clear language on national TV. You on the other hand say you support both Hillary and the woman who says Hilliary is a monster, you are for anything. Where do you stand? Is Power correct and Clinton is a monster, or is HIllary 80/2 Super Good? Can't have anything in reality Graham, which of the two do you stand with?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #41)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:10 AM

66. Another ad homenim.

 

When you didn't like the message you go ad hominem.

quaint.

BTW, I like Hillary/Booker two major liberals to keep the agenda of Barack Obama going forever.
Then Michelle.

People called Golda Meir ( ) names too.

But then John Edwards fans called Bob Graham ugly.
(of course Bob Graham didn't bother getting $400 haircuts).

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 11:06 AM

65. I can't figure you out...

is it performance art? Garden-variety trolling? It's hard to figure out.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 12:42 PM

80. John Anderson?

n/t

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:12 PM

83. Don't forget he gave a million dollars to Obama in 2012

this should make him a hero in your book. Forever.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #83)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 01:25 PM

84. X2

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 03:22 PM

102. Was Bill Maher conscious in 1980?

I think he is just a denial Libertarian, one who either reliably votes Democrat or Republican but wants to appear edgy and opinionated.

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 03:13 AM

139. He voted for Ralph Nader!

 

But of course, one fifth of him wanted John Anderson...

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:14 AM

5. Tell it like it is Bill

And don't let them get away with the bullshit that Reagan was a moderate.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:16 AM

6. That monologue rocked.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:50 AM

10. A couple of people on the panel were squirming...

You could tell Reagan was their idol.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:11 AM

31. Actually, it's more out of actual FEAR of being seen on a show where that was said...

The Republicans have made Reagan a God. To speak ill of him is blasphemy and all devotees are expected to kill a heretic.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:18 AM

52. True, I wouldn't be surprised

if a Republican dared to criticize St. Ronnie that said Republican received death threats from Freepers. Heck, Maher may have gotten a few last night, which I'm sure he ignored.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #52)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:10 PM

117. A lot of people here will give you a list of staffers guilty of crimes during Reagan but,....

...it's nice now and then to remember that whole "dottering old man" crap was a defense to keep his fake cowboy ass out of jail.

The Reagan years was the dawn of a whole new era in Republican politics. You could show someone a film of them accepting money in the form of used greenbacks in a brown grocery bag to bite the heads off of kittens and then show the actual act in all it's bloody chinned glory and all the Republican had to say was, "I don't recall" and they got off with an apology for having been bothered.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:58 AM

12. my

sentiments, EXACTLY, about that rethuglican POS! He was one evil mofo. I hated him then, I curse his corpse now. Obama, listen to this.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:06 AM

13. Excellent

k & r

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:08 AM

14. I have always felt that America's decline began with this terrible president.

Reagan encapsulates everything I can't stand about republicans.

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Response to mwb970 (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:19 AM

38. True. But I do think he wasn't as extreme as current tea partiers, like Cruz. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:52 AM

45. I do not fully agree with you. Some quotes from the Gipper

"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, June 17, 1966

"If there has to be a bloodbath, then let's get it over with."
--Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), cited in the San Francisco Chronicle, early morning edition, May 15, 1969. (Reagan reveals how he intends to quell student protests in the city of Berkeley, California. Protesters were teargassed and fired upon with buckshot, killing one, blinding another, and wounding 128. Reagan would later declare a state of emergency in the city and send in 2,700 National Guard troops.)

"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas."
--Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965
http://thereaganyears.tripod.com/reaganquotes.htm

The first outside the home political action I ever took part in was in elementary school, letters to Gov Reagan when he cut some subsidy for low income kids to get milk at lunch.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #45)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 04:10 PM

105. He was complicit in the genocide of indigenous peoples in Central and South America.

Under him and Bush I, they empowered death squads to slaughter whole villages including American activists and church missionaries and priests who stood in their way, including Archbishop Romero. In Guatemala alone, 200,000 perished from his policies. That monster could swim for days in the blood he was responsible for shedding.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #45)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:17 PM

107. Oh, I don't need quotes. I REMEMBER RR very well. But he WOULD compromise...

something that tea partiers absolutely will....not....do.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:35 PM

94. I agree with you

Cruz, Bachmann, Rand Paul, they're all totally nuts.

Reagan was more like Paul Ryan or a middle class version of Romney.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #94)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:22 PM

108. Yes. Far right. All about money and the privileged. But not wacko, & he would compromise....

a word that isn't even in the vocabulary of tea partiers. I also do think he thought his way was best for the country (what was best for the rich was, by definition, best for the country) & that he thought he was a patriot. He was very wrong and didn't see or care about the harm he was doing, but he WOULD compromise to get something done, since govt had to function, in his opinion.

Even Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor and their ilk won't compromise.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #108)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 06:04 PM

115. In the early 1960s, he was one step removed from the John Birch Society....

Less than two decades later, he was President of the United States.

That tells me that right-wing nutjoberry became part of the norm in U.S. politics.

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Response to mwb970 (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 05:51 PM

113. Raygun and Fed chair Paul Volcker.

Raygun with his destructive "divide and conquer" theo-fascist policies.

Volcker with his destructive interest rate policies. The jobs started leaving the US with the "superdollar" created by 21 pct interest rates.

Nominating Volcker for Fed chair was probably the worst move made by Carter. It cost him re-election in 1980.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #113)

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:49 PM

150. History

Reagan was a moron controlled by corporations and power-hungry Republicans who got their asses handed to them in the '60s and '70s and never got over it. 30-year bonds peaked at 14% and Volker did his job of killing inflation. Carter broke th backs of OPEC with energy-saving policies that also killed oil prices a d inflation. Carter was a moral and intelligent president--- I voted for him twice and knew Reagan was just an actor playing president, not a true leader.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:11 AM

15. Time

It is about time someone with a name says what so many of us have been saying, reagan was a piece of shit. He did more to destroy the working man in this country than anyone could, and yet convince the same working people it was best for them to lose what they had, there is a special place in hell for reagan.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:11 AM

16. It was one of his best new rules ever.

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Response to smokey nj (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:08 AM

27. I agree with you 100%

Loved it

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:15 AM

18. Reagan was just the first of many tools

The man wasn't what the man is purported to be by any stretch. He was an actor in a roll for others. Nothing more... I think Maher over rates him here actually.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:26 AM

19. Seriously!

Once he got started, I didn't think he would stop! His rants have not been very good of late, but last night's made up for it and then some. Also, made up for the lousy panel he had on last night (besides Tom Shadyac, of course.) "Real time" sometimes reminds me of the Sunday morning TV line-up.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:40 AM

21. If I were in his audience ...

...I would have been on my feet chanting--

Yes!...Yes!...YES!!!!

It is way past time for Saint Ronnie to be pulled down

from that pedestal.
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Response to Graybeard (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:52 AM

44. Not to mention Clinton had his faults for sure, but is still more highly rated than Reagan today

Teabags try desperately to make Ronald into a Saint to everyone.

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Response to Graybeard (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 02:33 PM

93. Agreed

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:47 AM

22. Thank you so much for sharing this.

I don't expend much energy for hate, but for rat bastard ronald reagan I make an exception.

The harm done to this country is incalculable, and I'm glad someone pointed it out. Finally.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 08:49 AM

23. Eek!

Maher needed to include a few zingers in there to help make his point.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:07 AM

26. Best Anti-Reagan Rant Ever!

I absolutely cannot find anything positive to say about that POS Reagan. He is the main reason I'm estranged from my family. Reagan Democrats are indeed the epitome of the Tea Party. Best line - "They even tried to elect Reagan's haircut".

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Response to Stainless (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:09 AM

29. That was one of many great lines

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Response to Stainless (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:13 AM

34. yes, that was a great line

and, it is ridiculous how Republicans all have to worship at the altar of Reagan.

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Response to Stainless (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:49 AM

60. He is partially responsible for his son, Ron

That is a very positive thing I can say about him. His son is terrific.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #60)

Sun Jun 9, 2013, 01:18 AM

137. So do I. Thanks for a positive note here, the only one for the gipper.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:12 AM

33. Of all the bad things Reagan did to us, perhaps the worst is he gave us Peggy Noonan.

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:51 AM

61. Maybe not the worst, but damned close. (nt)

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Response to Gidney N Cloyd (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:09 PM

128. Gave. As in infected. n/t

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:17 AM

35. And every word is absolutely right on.

A week or so another DUer posted something on the great Gil-Scott Heron (best known for "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised"). Heron did a bit on Reagan called "B Movie" that really compliments this story.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:34 AM

40. Gil-Scott Heron is brilliant

We loved him

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:54 AM

47. A genius, and this piece is brilliant.

nt

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:28 AM

39. Amazing how many peasants still love their oppressors and hate the oppressed (from 2011).

Reagan was a "divide-and-conquer" master, playing on working/middle class white's hatred and distrust of anyone he deemed "lesser" and "lazy".

His PR team successfully painted the modern Republicans as take-charge he-men cowboys and Democrats as everything from effete pantywaist elitists to communist subversives, a myth that still holds true today with many Americans.

He governed using ramped-up 50's fear and the threat of nuclear holocaust, something our society and children stressed out over all through the 80s.

He made racism acceptable, the wealthy as benevolent overlords (who he ushered in the White House to permanently camp and "advise") and Horatio Alger as a tongue-in-cheek blueprint for all American workers . . . the idea that with just the right amount of pluck and extremely hard work, anyone can make it big.

Long after he was out of office and well on the journey into cerebral oblivion, Reagan's long stenchy shadow unfortunately looms over American life. Even though political parties have changed, Reaganomics never LEFT. We STILL practice this incredibly destructive pure Freidmanite capitalism despite all evidence that it's killing economic progress for everyone except a select few, whose incomes and wealth are inflating daily.

We still constantly have to be at WAR with someone, support dictatorships and exploit cheap resources and labor.

This backwards wooden fundamentalist puppet ruined and continues to ruin America. Reagan was a lousy president, a twisted human being and a laughingstock. While still following and lauding his supposed "legacy", America will remain a laughingstock also.

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:42 AM

42. Well said

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Response to HughBeaumont (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 10:19 AM

53. awesome addition to Maher's take down

brilliant and so true. thanks.

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Response to malaise (Original post)

Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:47 AM

43. K&R. I agree. Reagan was indeed a very destructive politician.

Lies and platitudes about Morning in America, while he pushed the country backward.

He was indeed the original tea bagger, talking about values and patriotism while trading arms with our enemies and trying to crush the New Deal.

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