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Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:30 PM

This is what I am being told justifies killing a person in "self defense"

A couple of scratches.



I have suffered worse injuries than those when I cut myself shaving.

We are being told that suffering a couple of tiny scratches in a fight justifies shooting and killing an unarmed teenager. Wrap your head around that and think about just how fucked up that is.

The fact that we are even having a debate over whether or not the killing of Trayvon Martin was justified shows just how nuts the NRA and their George Zimmerman defending minions have become, any sane person should realize that suffering a scratch does not justify homicide.

I think people should have the right to defend themselves, but when people try to tell me that suffering a couple of tiny scratches justifies killing an unarmed person that shows just how insane the definition of "self defense" that the gun nuts are promoting has become.

Even if murder and perjury suspect George Zimmerman's story were completely true, I still can not possibly see how killing Trayvon Martin would have been justified. If Zimmerman's story were true I would accept shoot to wound as self defense, but I have not heard any credible reason as to why shoot to kill was necessary in the situation Zimmerman was in even if his story were true.

Yet the gun nuts insist that they should have the right to shoot to kill on the basis of suffering a couple of tiny scratches in a fight. We can not allow the gun nuts to weaken the standards for what constitutes reasonable self defense, if Zimmerman's ridiculous self defense claim holds up I hate to think of the precedent it will set.

Most people support the right to self defense, but the sane among us will never allow anyone to tell us that suffering a couple of scratches justifies shoot to kill.

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Reply This is what I am being told justifies killing a person in "self defense" (Original post)
Bjorn Against Jun 2013 OP
madokie Jun 2013 #1
Celldweller Jun 2013 #2
Bjorn Against Jun 2013 #4
madokie Jun 2013 #5
monmouth3 Jun 2013 #9
NightWatcher Jun 2013 #3
Major Nikon Jun 2013 #6
Logical Jun 2013 #7
upaloopa Jun 2013 #8

Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:32 PM

1. Only trouble is

the picture taken of him shortly after this happened when he was first taken to the police station did not and I repeat did not show any of these cuts.
riddle me that

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Response to madokie (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:34 PM

2. BS the video was low quality

 

blurry and possibly p-shopped.

There is photo evidence from the scene maybe 5 minutes after the shooting and several others from the next 2 hours.

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Response to Celldweller (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:37 PM

4. You think someone might have photoshopped the police surveillance video?

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Response to Celldweller (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:37 PM

5. I think what you're saying is BS

the video at the police station was shortly after this happened and I don't for a minute think it was photoshopped.
These pictures shown here surfaced some later.

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Response to madokie (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 08:09 PM

9. Exactly. When he first was in Police HQ he didn't have a mark on him. n/t

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:36 PM

3. You can't claim self defense when you start the shit

The prosecution rests (mic drop).

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:41 PM

6. Shooting your way out when your mouth writes checks your ass can't cash.

Only the gunnutiest of gun nuts would promote the self defense angle.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:41 PM

7. How about "If he started the shit you cannot acquit!' N-T

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Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Wed Jun 5, 2013, 07:46 PM

8. You are unarmed a guy comes at you with a gun

Are you going to try and hurt him before he can shoot you?
I feel Zimmerman got what he was asking for and if it were not for SYG he would be tried for murder,

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