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Sat May 25, 2013, 09:48 PM

Idaho sheriff plans to drop Boy Scout charter over BSA gay decision

Just saw this today, sorry...

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_128b8731-7455-5508-aa15-fb6643f4330f.html

On Thursday the National Boy Scout Council voted to allow openly gay boys to participate as Scouts. In response, Kootenai County, Idaho, Sheriff Ben Wolfinger said on Friday that he is compelled to drop the department's Boy Scouts of America charter because the organization is promoting a lifestyle that is against state law. (Which of course shows how up-to-date our sheriff is; the Supreme Court overturned every sodomy law in the United States ten years ago.)

The strange thing is, the Boy Scouts are very strongly against scouts having sex of any kind...the Boy Scout Handbook used to contain warnings against masturbation, and so far as I know it still does.

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Reply Idaho sheriff plans to drop Boy Scout charter over BSA gay decision (Original post)
jmowreader May 2013 OP
msongs May 2013 #1
jmowreader May 2013 #2
Chipper Chat May 2013 #3
thucythucy May 2013 #4
jmowreader May 2013 #8
thucythucy May 2013 #10
jmowreader May 2013 #11
thucythucy May 2013 #12
SoCalDem May 2013 #5
LostOne4Ever May 2013 #6
EC May 2013 #7
jmowreader May 2013 #9

Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:00 PM

1. so which church in Idaho is probably sponsoring/endorsing the most boy scout troops? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:18 PM

2. The Mormon church sponsors more boy scout troops than any other single entity

Their take on the ruling is a little different than Wolfinger's: now that the Scouts aren't required to kick boys out just for being gay, all boys can now learn the good lessons of Scouting.

Scouting has ALWAYS been anti-any-kind-of-sex.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:45 PM

3. The sheriff can start his own boy scout troop.

He can call it:
"The IDA-HO scouts"

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:47 PM

4. It's just as well.

I wouldn't want a homophobe like this to have any ability to influence impressionable young boys. It's best all around if he leaves scouting all together.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #4)

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:06 AM

8. This homophobe is the Sheriff!

He has a hell of a lot more ability to influence impressionable young boys in his day job than he does as scoutmaster...most of the impressionable young boys in Kootenai County aren't Boy Scouts. (Awana and Boys & Girls Club has attracted the attentions of our youth.)

Then again...the two people he was running against are worse.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #8)

Sun May 26, 2013, 08:20 PM

10. I agree, his being sheriff IS quite disturbing.

The fact that his opposition was even worse is sad and scary both.

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Response to thucythucy (Reply #10)

Mon May 27, 2013, 07:12 PM

11. Let me really scare you

Kootenai County has a serious jail overcrowding problem. It's bad enough that we ship people awaiting trial to other counties. One of the issues in the last election was this problem. And the real reason we have this problem is that in Kootenai County, jail has become the default punishment for everything. We throw minors who get caught smoking cigarettes in jail for three days. We have a very popular crime here: possession of drug paraphernalia with intent to use. That gets you ten days. Every single thing that you can possibly throw someone in jail for, they automatically throw you in jail for doing. I'm pretty sure they'd punish running red lights with jail time if they could.

There was a Libertarian running for sheriff who dropped out of the race very early; his idea for solving the jail overcrowding problem was to explore non-jail approaches to criminal justice...you know, things like probation. (This should be obvious to anyone - quit throwing the "possession of paraphernalia" criminals in the slam and you might have enough room for serious criminals like the city council and the school board.) After he was exposed for wanting to let rapists and heroin pushers walk the streets (more like let the minors who get busted for cigarette smoking walk the streets, right?) he dropped out of the race. Ben Wolfinger, who won the election, said he would look into allowing a private contractor to build a bigger jail. (He's a Republican. What do you expect?) The two challengers both said the perfect way to solve the problem was to build an Arpaio-style tent jail. Wolfinger pointed out the realities of building a tent jail in Idaho, mainly the white shit that falls out of the sky three months out of the year, the extra guards required, the escapes, the fact that Arpaio's tent gulag is one of the most expensive county jails per prisoner in America...

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #11)

Mon May 27, 2013, 08:35 PM

12. Jesus! Remind me never to settle

in Kootenai County.

And yes, I am well and truly scared to be sharing the same continent with this style of "law enforcement."

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:48 PM

5. Looks like it's time for a good old schism

Fundamentalist-Christian Scouts of America

and

Young Scouts of America

Yank any non-profit perks from the FCSA since they discriminate

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 10:52 PM

6. BSA

Is better off without him.

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Response to jmowreader (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2013, 11:59 PM

7. You know these people

sure have a problem with the meaning of the word "promoting". The Boy Scouts are not promoting homosexuality. This is the same reasoning they use about teaching sex education and birth control. Knowing about something is not the same as promoting. Accepting things isn't the same as promoting them.

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Response to EC (Reply #7)

Sun May 26, 2013, 01:08 AM

9. No kidding...

From the way this sheriff talks, you'd have thought the Scouts had just introduced a Gay Sex Merit Badge and made it a requirement if you wanted to advance to Second Class Scout.

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