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Wed May 22, 2013, 10:20 AM

 

Lois Lerner is not testifying because the GOP can't have Dems grilling her !!!!

Why are the Democrats falling for the "old banana in the tailpipe" trick?

The "fix" is in and Issa knows it. Give her immunity and let her testify....

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Reply Lois Lerner is not testifying because the GOP can't have Dems grilling her !!!! (Original post)
swayne May 2013 OP
Enrique May 2013 #1
randome May 2013 #4
Botany May 2013 #15
randome May 2013 #22
southernyankeebelle May 2013 #29
randome May 2013 #31
southernyankeebelle May 2013 #34
Raine1967 May 2013 #2
swayne May 2013 #13
pnwmom May 2013 #36
swayne May 2013 #3
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #7
swayne May 2013 #10
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #12
swayne May 2013 #14
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #20
HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #24
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #30
HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #35
graham4anything May 2013 #23
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #32
graham4anything May 2013 #33
Berlum May 2013 #11
former9thward May 2013 #16
BlueCaliDem May 2013 #21
HeroInAHalfShell May 2013 #25
dsc May 2013 #5
Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #6
swayne May 2013 #8
Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #9
ananda May 2013 #18
former9thward May 2013 #19
Horse with no Name May 2013 #17
atreides1 May 2013 #26
pangaia May 2013 #27
marshall May 2013 #28

Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:22 AM

1. i'm confused

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Response to Enrique (Reply #1)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:24 AM

4. Me, too. Didn't her manager admit that it was his idea to have the question planted?



Stop looking for heroes. BE one.


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Response to randome (Reply #4)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:41 AM

15. yes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014486579

looks like she is a repub. and was given her position by W's appointed
commissioner of the IRS .... this IRS scandal is nothing more then the
Benghazi scandal w/a different name.

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Response to Botany (Reply #15)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:43 AM

22. I thought her supervisor, Steven Miller, suggested the planting of the question.



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Response to randome (Reply #22)

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:01 PM

29. Why was it planted? I don't think they did anything wrong.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #29)

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:50 PM

31. They certain ACT like they did. Especially with Lerner now pleading the Fifth.



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Response to randome (Reply #31)

Wed May 22, 2013, 02:19 PM

34. There was an admission it was planted. But why? Because we now know there were

 

liberal groups were looked into.

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:24 AM

2. Immunity from what?

Would you care to elaborate?

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #2)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:36 AM

13. Lerner doesn't want to get on the bad side of the GOP. Not testifying shields her from that.

 

Giving her immunity will allow the Democrats to ask the questions that need to be asked. What is happening is that the Dems cannot now ask her anything, perhaps ever.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #2)

Fri May 24, 2013, 03:51 PM

36. From criminal prosecution. When someone takes the 5th, if they give immunity

they can compel testimony.

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:24 AM

3. Lerner is a GOP operative and if she has to answer questions the GOP scandal will fall apart.

 

The story isn't the story the GOP would have you to believe and the entire TV media is falling for the scam. Lerner knows that Tea Party folks weren't the only ones that were pulled for audits. Issa and the GOP can't afford to let her say that other entities were investigated and to a greater degree than even the tea party.

Issa is keeping up the Tea Party ONLY scam.

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Response to swayne (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:28 AM

7. Corporate Media has already played it up that if Lerner doesn't testify, it would affect Pres. Obama

the most when in all actuality, it would affect her reputation and that of this ridiculous Issa-led persecution.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #7)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:32 AM

10. Exactly and THAT is my point. Lerner by not testifying, in a perverse way, makes Obama look bad.

 

This is entirely about ensuring that the WHOLE truth doesn't get out.

The democrats have been had yet again.

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Response to swayne (Reply #10)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:35 AM

12. I'm sorry, but you've misread the point I was making. What you posted is NOT my point at all.

The point I was making is that a GOP shill in the IRS pleads the 5th and Corporate-Media is reporting that that somehow makes President Obama look bad??

Give me a fucking break.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #12)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:40 AM

14. It makes it look that OBAMA is hiding something. He isn't. The GOP is hiding the truth.

 

The GOP by letting Lerner hide, can continue to take victim status. Because it is a govt agency, the blame and the not forthcomingness look bad for Obama, even though he has nothing to do with this.

The GOP is relieved that she isn't testifying. That way, she doesn't have to answer any uncomfortable questions about here dealings with Darrell Issa, EVER.

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Response to swayne (Reply #14)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:22 AM

20. True. But it's been the main goal of Corporate Media to paint this scandal-free president

"worse than Nixon" as much as they can in order to try and stop his agenda that's pro-working America. The majority of Americans understand that.

However, it would be nice if Corporate Media would finally do an expose on Jonathan Karl at ABC, and expose the GOP/Rightwing mole-posing-as-an-unbiased-journalist in all his ugliness. Were he Black and a Liberal coming from the NAACP, you could bet dollars to donuts he'd get front page status for at least a month. It's because he's White and he comes from the corporate-backed Collegiate Network that there's been a disturbing silence about him.

ABCís senior political correspondent Jonathan Karl came to mainstream journalism via the Collegiate Network, an organization primarily devoted to promoting and supporting right-leaning newspapers on college campuses (Extra!, 9-10/91)ósuch as the Rutgers paper launched by the infamous James OíKeefe (Political Correction, 1/27/10). The network, founded in 1979, is one of several projects of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, which seeks to strengthen conservative ideology on college campuses. William F. Buckley was the ISIís first president, and the current board chair is American Spectator publisher Alfred Regnery. Several leading right-wing pundits came out of Collegiate-affiliated papers, including Ann Coulter, Dinesh D'Souza, Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowry and Laura Ingraham (Washington Times, 11/28/04).
http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/a-right-wing-mole-at-abc-news/

How is this not a scandal and how is this not news that the American people need to know about?

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #20)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:57 AM

24. the American people need to know that the people you highlighted were part of

 

the Collegiate Network?

what the hell does that matter?

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Response to HeroInAHalfShell (Reply #24)

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:48 PM

30. It matters

THAT YOU BOTHER TO READ THE POST BEFORE ASKING A STUPID QUESTION LIKE THAT.

Do you really need that explained to you? For more info on how the American people are being SCREWED, follow the link. Then get back to me - if you haven't received your pizza, that is.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #30)

Fri May 24, 2013, 11:48 AM

35. There is the same thing going on with the left.

 

This is what both sides do to further their cause and for those that believe in their cause.

I would say the left needs more of these to get more people out there that are not right wing but left wing.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #12)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:50 AM

23. Yup. 100% of the media is against the President and his agenda.

 

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Response to graham4anything (Reply #23)

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:52 PM

32. I know, G4A. But more and more people are finally coming to understand

that Faux News Channel is the most obvious but certainly not the only the mouthpiece of Republicans and propaganda clarion for Corporate America against We the People.

More and more people are becoming distrustful of our propaganda media, and turn to sites and blogs to get their news.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #32)

Wed May 22, 2013, 02:04 PM

33. Yup. But we gotta keep saying it. So it sinks in.

 

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Response to swayne (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:34 AM

11. + 1,000

She is just another GOP, Inc. operative, occultist style.

GOP always OCCULTS the truth. That is the Republican signature.

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Response to swayne (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:47 AM

16. There are plenty of people at the IRS with information on the audits.

She is not holding it in a secret safe. The acting head of the IRS just appointed by Obama has access to all that information. All sorts of people can testify if your scenario is true.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #16)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:23 AM

21. The truth will out - and it shall be outed. Issa took a more somber tone

this morning. Could it be that he knows he's gone too far and it's all about to blow up in his face?

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Response to swayne (Reply #3)

Wed May 22, 2013, 11:58 AM

25. I wonder who is paying her off

 

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:25 AM

5. giving her immunity means no prosecution ever

the lengths that the prosecutors of North and Poindexter went to avoid having the immunized testimony infect the prosecution were legendary but still not enough. I don't know if we really want to forever immunize her from prosecution.

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:26 AM

6. I don't think it will go anywhere but it still looks bad just from a outside perspective

Now I'm thinking, what could she know.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #6)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:29 AM

8. Lerner holds the key to having this whole scandal blow up in the GOP's face. This works for them.

 

I can't believe people aren't seeing through this smokescreen.

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Response to swayne (Reply #8)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:31 AM

9. That makes sense

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #9)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:49 AM

18. Yes it does.

Dammit.

Wake up Dems. Get the word out.

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Response to swayne (Reply #8)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:49 AM

19. There isi no smokescreen.

You don't know how government agencies work. There is no end to people who would know all of this information. No one does anything without writing it down and getting it approved. There would be records of everything.

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:47 AM

17. What about a Special Prosecutor?

It would seem that this is a very good case to call in one...

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Response to Horse with no Name (Reply #17)

Wed May 22, 2013, 12:22 PM

26. That's what the GOP wants!

And if they get one, they'll be given carte blanche to look into every nook and cranny!

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 12:45 PM

27. Thanks to all here for..all your efforts, comments, etc

DU is the ONLY place I can find such important REAL info..in real time, discussed, debated..
THIS is where I get my ammunition to use against right wing-- colleagues, acquaintances....
If I had more time I would try make a bigger contribution...

I knew the IRS thing was a crock, got a little nervous about Lois Lane not testifying, but also knew somehow there was sumpin' else goin' on.

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Response to swayne (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2013, 01:00 PM

28. She's pulling some kind of double gothca

By botching her 5th amendment declaration she has essentially tried to have it both ways--she's given herself plausible deniability cover for whoever is squeezing her AND she is going to be "forced" to testify under oath. I don't know what her game plan is or who her accomplices are, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

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