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From Dogs Against Romney Blog,
This image says it all. A Dogs Against Romney Pack Member was stopped by the Littleton, Colorado police yesterday for having a dog crate on the roof of his car. The Pack Member , identified only as "Oredigger," was on his way to protest at a Mitt Romney event yesterday with the crate atop his car carrying a stuffed toy dog when the police officer, believing he was actually transporting a live dog on the roof of his car, stopped him. Says Oredigger, "I was pulled over for suspected animal abuse."
http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/2012/02/breaking-police-stop-dogs-against.html
At least this officer cared enough about the dog to stop him!
eShirl
(18,490 posts)For all he knew he was saving a real animal.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)miles with a real dog. Or however far it was.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)We hope so, anyways.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...that are decades old?
Yes, it wasn't a good thing, but at the time it happened, the vast majority of people would not have batted an eye at the sight of a dog carrier on the roof of a car. AND a goodly number would have thought the trail of dogshit on the Duco a real hoot. AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED.
We condenm any number of 3rd world/developing countries for practices which we are only a few generations (or less) away from ourselves: Child labour and marriage, women and children as property, legally sanctioned rape, animal cruelty, SLAVERY.
cyglet
(529 posts)they were pets then, and pets now. That's all I'm able to say with any restraint.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)...members of the family. Back in the day, only sad, laughable old spinsters coddled their pets the way most us treat them today. Attitudes change with time, and that was exactly the point I was making.
What you're doing is indulging in historical revisionism.
I grew up alongside people who now swear black and blue that they never said/did the things they said/did, because it is no longer generally acceptable: to say (or agree that), "The bitch deserved it"; to comment on the fuckability of passing schoolgirls; to wring the necks of/drown an unwanted litter of kittens or puppies; to attend cock/dog fights; to go looking for poofters (or ethnics) to bash.
I'm not saying these past behaviours were good or acceptable. What I'm saying is it's wrong to behave/react as if 20, 30, fifty year old events occured 5 minutes ago.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I'm 42 and I could have never imagined my parents putting a carrier with a pet in it on top of our station wagon.
Sounds like you grew up with a bunch of assholes, btw.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)behavior was acceptable AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)PDittie
(8,322 posts)huh? White man's burden.
TheMadMonk
(6,187 posts)White mans burden? Not particularly. Just some self honesty, which in my experience is sadly lacking in most people.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Now let me say that just because I totally get what you're saying, does not mean I condone rMoney's despicable action decades ago!!! (this disclaimer for other posters who may jump off the conclusion cliff and miss the point)
The reason no cops pulled rMoney over back then was because the awareness was not forefront at that time. Perhaps a particular individual cop, who loved animals and was a bodhisathva (i.e. good samaritan, in the christian tradition) would have acted. Thanks to the attention focused on RichyRich's cruelty, and his casual attitude about it, the awareness has spread worldwide, and now, people will be more inclined to ACT.
Understanding that it was a different time back then does not in any way equate to approval! Attitudes evolve over time (and devolve...and evolve again. That's the nature of life through eternities)
We condemn and are horrified by the tortures of the middle ages but when we say that we understand it was a different age and a whole different world back then, that doesn't mean we approve of the practices. It means we realize and appreciate the evolution of ethical thinking.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)We traveled by car at least once a year form NJ to Northern VT for 20 plus years - in addition to other trips. I seriously would have called the police had I seen that - and on highways, they would be able to stop the person as there are long stretches where drivers have no choice of what to do. It would either have been to call - or listen to three kids argue passionately for us to do so.
I'm 61 and that would have been unacceptable to anyone I knew. Consider that he had luggage for 7 IN THE CAR and the dog ON THE ROOF. That is weird and cruel.
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)But you are right about 20 or 30 years ago, even if someone didn't agree with carrying a dog on the roof, they most likely wouldn't have said anything.
I remember 35 or 40 years ago in the rural area where I live there were 4 or 5 older people that drove drunk all over the place, mostly on back roads. When you met them you knew they were drunk and the cops even knew they were drunk but as long as they drove slow and stayed mostly on the back roads and out of trouble if the cops did stop them it was just to visit with them. That attitude does not prevail now either.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"the vast majority of people would not have batted an eye at the sight of a dog carrier on the roof of a car...."
And a part of me thinks you may actually believe that to be true...
Honest_Abe
(155 posts)that he didn't see that it was wrong then. It is that he does not see see that he was wrong NOW.
You may be right that we should not apply current morality to long past behavior. But he is STILL defending that behavior as OK, rather than even saying "I just didn't know any better," Which means he has not learned from his mistakes.
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Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)Honestly, most of the cops I've known are serious animal lovers. Probably because their faith in humanity is destroyed. The driver was lucky he didn't get tased.
Blue Owl
(50,355 posts)This is an awesome way to raise awareness that Romney is/was an ANIMAL ABUSER.
I think the policeman that stopped traffic on two lanes of a four lane freeway one morning on my way from work to let a turtle cross the road safely, probably would have been better off just grabbing the thing and moving it himself, though.
Cops in the Chicago area would block traffic for Canadian geese and ducks to cross the road with their babies!
shireen
(8,333 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)Drag them in front of the snapper, and it should bite on the plastic handle, letting you pull it across the road safely. I had to do that once to get a snapper out of the road.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)TheWraith
(24,331 posts)By that time I had managed to tow it to the far shoulder of the road, where it could continue on its way.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Never thought of that!
I've saved turtles and other animals crossing the road many times....once was a big snapper. I couldn't think what to do, then threw my jacket over him and pushed from behind with my snow/ice scraper that lives in the trunk during the summer.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I've done it before but a few times the turtle uses an effective method intended to deter predators - it pisses all over whatever has grabbed it. Not pleasant and turtle pee has a nasty musky odor.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:49 PM - Edit history (1)
Trust me, he is no fan of Mittens.
on edit: typo
Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Vanje
(9,766 posts)sellitman
(11,606 posts)lol
jsmirman
(4,507 posts)sincerely.
Whoever he is (it looks like a he from what I can make out), I'd like to thank him for caring enough to make the stop.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)very funny link btw