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shireen

(8,333 posts)
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:41 PM Feb 2012

Police Stop "Dogs Against Romney" Protester for Having Dog Crate on Car Roof



From Dogs Against Romney Blog,


This image says it all. A Dogs Against Romney Pack Member was stopped by the Littleton, Colorado police yesterday for having a dog crate on the roof of his car. The Pack Member , identified only as "Oredigger," was on his way to protest at a Mitt Romney event yesterday with the crate atop his car carrying a stuffed toy dog when the police officer, believing he was actually transporting a live dog on the roof of his car, stopped him. Says Oredigger, "I was pulled over for suspected animal abuse."

http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/2012/02/breaking-police-stop-dogs-against.html


At least this officer cared enough about the dog to stop him!

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Police Stop "Dogs Against Romney" Protester for Having Dog Crate on Car Roof (Original Post) shireen Feb 2012 OP
good for the officer! eShirl Feb 2012 #1
Exactly!!! obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #30
That's funny. I guess he should have kept the stuffed dog in the car until he got to the protest. n. Cleita Feb 2012 #2
Sure, pull someone over with a stuffed dog, and let Mittens drive a thousand rhett o rick Feb 2012 #3
Maybe this officer would have liberal N proud Feb 2012 #4
Why, oh why do people insist on applying current standards to events... TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #13
I don't even know where to begin cyglet Feb 2012 #14
NO! They were pets/property then. NOW they are charges, companions,... TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #22
Back in what 'day'? Dogs were pets and well taken care of when I was a kid 50 years ago. Gidney N Cloyd Feb 2012 #36
What day was that? Fawke Em Feb 2012 #37
Even though my post was intended to be tongue in cheek, I dont agree that Mittens rhett o rick Feb 2012 #15
Not suggesting it was acceptable. Just that it was probably unremarkable. /nt TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #16
You may have a point. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #20
You must own a lot of Apple devices PDittie Feb 2012 #26
Does an Apple ][ clone under the bench in the shed count? TheMadMonk Feb 2012 #28
Quite so! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #32
I NEVER saw a dog on the roof of a car karynnj Feb 2012 #39
Time changes many things, and in most cases that is a good thing. A Simple Game Feb 2012 #41
And a part of me thinks you may actually believe that to be true... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #42
The problem ISN'T... Honest_Abe Feb 2012 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author TygrBright Feb 2012 #44
Give that cop an extra donut! Wait Wut Feb 2012 #5
Good Cop, Two Donuts! Blue Owl Feb 2012 #6
Agreed hayrow1 Feb 2012 #8
LOL!! Wait Wut Feb 2012 #9
unless it was a mean ol' snapping turtle. shireen Feb 2012 #12
In that case, you pull the jumper cables out of your trunk. TheWraith Feb 2012 #19
How do you get him to release the cables. Pretty please? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #33
When I did it, it let go on his own after a few seconds. TheWraith Feb 2012 #40
clever! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #34
Maybe he knows the possible consequences of picking up a turtle! csziggy Feb 2012 #17
I've got a buddy who used to be a K-9 officer. He would have taken a bullet for his partner. 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #7
K&R cyglet Feb 2012 #10
Confirmation that Mittens is an animal abuser! Glimmer of Hope Feb 2012 #11
He should have put a stuffed Mitt in the crate. yellowcanine Feb 2012 #18
hee Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 #21
I would K&R this post all night long! nt Vanje Feb 2012 #23
Would Mitt even get the Michael Vick vote today? sellitman Feb 2012 #24
I'd love the chance to send that officer a personal thank you jsmirman Feb 2012 #25
Kicked for Seamus grantcart Feb 2012 #27
The irony of this is delicious obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #29
to repair his image, Mitt's renaming his dog "Checkers" and taking him on the campaign trail... alterfurz Feb 2012 #31
. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #35
Maybe I don't trust cops but anyone else wonder if the pull-over MIGHT be politically motivated? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2012 #38

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
2. That's funny. I guess he should have kept the stuffed dog in the car until he got to the protest. n.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:43 PM
Feb 2012
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
3. Sure, pull someone over with a stuffed dog, and let Mittens drive a thousand
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:44 PM
Feb 2012

miles with a real dog. Or however far it was.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
13. Why, oh why do people insist on applying current standards to events...
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:14 PM
Feb 2012

...that are decades old?

Yes, it wasn't a good thing, but at the time it happened, the vast majority of people would not have batted an eye at the sight of a dog carrier on the roof of a car. AND a goodly number would have thought the trail of dogshit on the Duco a real hoot. AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED.

We condenm any number of 3rd world/developing countries for practices which we are only a few generations (or less) away from ourselves: Child labour and marriage, women and children as property, legally sanctioned rape, animal cruelty, SLAVERY.

cyglet

(529 posts)
14. I don't even know where to begin
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:18 PM
Feb 2012

they were pets then, and pets now. That's all I'm able to say with any restraint.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
22. NO! They were pets/property then. NOW they are charges, companions,...
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 11:26 PM
Feb 2012

...members of the family. Back in the day, only sad, laughable old spinsters coddled their pets the way most us treat them today. Attitudes change with time, and that was exactly the point I was making.

What you're doing is indulging in historical revisionism.

I grew up alongside people who now swear black and blue that they never said/did the things they said/did, because it is no longer generally acceptable: to say (or agree that), "The bitch deserved it"; to comment on the fuckability of passing schoolgirls; to wring the necks of/drown an unwanted litter of kittens or puppies; to attend cock/dog fights; to go looking for poofters (or ethnics) to bash.

I'm not saying these past behaviours were good or acceptable. What I'm saying is it's wrong to behave/react as if 20, 30, fifty year old events occured 5 minutes ago.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
37. What day was that?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:55 PM
Feb 2012

I'm 42 and I could have never imagined my parents putting a carrier with a pet in it on top of our station wagon.

Sounds like you grew up with a bunch of assholes, btw.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Even though my post was intended to be tongue in cheek, I dont agree that Mittens
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:37 PM
Feb 2012

behavior was acceptable AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED.

 

TheMadMonk

(6,187 posts)
28. Does an Apple ][ clone under the bench in the shed count?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 10:31 AM
Feb 2012

White mans burden? Not particularly. Just some self honesty, which in my experience is sadly lacking in most people.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
32. Quite so!
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:43 PM
Feb 2012

Now let me say that just because I totally get what you're saying, does not mean I condone rMoney's despicable action decades ago!!! (this disclaimer for other posters who may jump off the conclusion cliff and miss the point)

The reason no cops pulled rMoney over back then was because the awareness was not forefront at that time. Perhaps a particular individual cop, who loved animals and was a bodhisathva (i.e. good samaritan, in the christian tradition) would have acted. Thanks to the attention focused on RichyRich's cruelty, and his casual attitude about it, the awareness has spread worldwide, and now, people will be more inclined to ACT.

Understanding that it was a different time back then does not in any way equate to approval! Attitudes evolve over time (and devolve...and evolve again. That's the nature of life through eternities)

We condemn and are horrified by the tortures of the middle ages but when we say that we understand it was a different age and a whole different world back then, that doesn't mean we approve of the practices. It means we realize and appreciate the evolution of ethical thinking.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
39. I NEVER saw a dog on the roof of a car
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:57 PM
Feb 2012

We traveled by car at least once a year form NJ to Northern VT for 20 plus years - in addition to other trips. I seriously would have called the police had I seen that - and on highways, they would be able to stop the person as there are long stretches where drivers have no choice of what to do. It would either have been to call - or listen to three kids argue passionately for us to do so.

I'm 61 and that would have been unacceptable to anyone I knew. Consider that he had luggage for 7 IN THE CAR and the dog ON THE ROOF. That is weird and cruel.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
41. Time changes many things, and in most cases that is a good thing.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:03 PM
Feb 2012

But you are right about 20 or 30 years ago, even if someone didn't agree with carrying a dog on the roof, they most likely wouldn't have said anything.

I remember 35 or 40 years ago in the rural area where I live there were 4 or 5 older people that drove drunk all over the place, mostly on back roads. When you met them you knew they were drunk and the cops even knew they were drunk but as long as they drove slow and stayed mostly on the back roads and out of trouble if the cops did stop them it was just to visit with them. That attitude does not prevail now either.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. And a part of me thinks you may actually believe that to be true...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:54 PM
Feb 2012

"the vast majority of people would not have batted an eye at the sight of a dog carrier on the roof of a car...."
And a part of me thinks you may actually believe that to be true...

Honest_Abe

(155 posts)
43. The problem ISN'T...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:57 PM
Feb 2012

that he didn't see that it was wrong then. It is that he does not see see that he was wrong NOW.
You may be right that we should not apply current morality to long past behavior. But he is STILL defending that behavior as OK, rather than even saying "I just didn't know any better," Which means he has not learned from his mistakes.

Response to TheMadMonk (Reply #13)

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
5. Give that cop an extra donut!
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:57 PM
Feb 2012

Honestly, most of the cops I've known are serious animal lovers. Probably because their faith in humanity is destroyed. The driver was lucky he didn't get tased.

Blue Owl

(50,355 posts)
6. Good Cop, Two Donuts!
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:01 PM
Feb 2012

This is an awesome way to raise awareness that Romney is/was an ANIMAL ABUSER.

 

hayrow1

(198 posts)
8. Agreed
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:10 PM
Feb 2012

I think the policeman that stopped traffic on two lanes of a four lane freeway one morning on my way from work to let a turtle cross the road safely, probably would have been better off just grabbing the thing and moving it himself, though.

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
9. LOL!!
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:25 PM
Feb 2012

Cops in the Chicago area would block traffic for Canadian geese and ducks to cross the road with their babies!

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
19. In that case, you pull the jumper cables out of your trunk.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:43 PM
Feb 2012

Drag them in front of the snapper, and it should bite on the plastic handle, letting you pull it across the road safely. I had to do that once to get a snapper out of the road.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
40. When I did it, it let go on his own after a few seconds.
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:16 PM
Feb 2012

By that time I had managed to tow it to the far shoulder of the road, where it could continue on its way.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
34. clever!
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:50 PM
Feb 2012

Never thought of that!

I've saved turtles and other animals crossing the road many times....once was a big snapper. I couldn't think what to do, then threw my jacket over him and pushed from behind with my snow/ice scraper that lives in the trunk during the summer.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
17. Maybe he knows the possible consequences of picking up a turtle!
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:42 PM
Feb 2012

I've done it before but a few times the turtle uses an effective method intended to deter predators - it pisses all over whatever has grabbed it. Not pleasant and turtle pee has a nasty musky odor.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
7. I've got a buddy who used to be a K-9 officer. He would have taken a bullet for his partner.
Tue Feb 7, 2012, 07:02 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Trust me, he is no fan of Mittens.

on edit: typo

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
25. I'd love the chance to send that officer a personal thank you
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 03:09 AM
Feb 2012

sincerely.

Whoever he is (it looks like a he from what I can make out), I'd like to thank him for caring enough to make the stop.

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