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Wed May 1, 2013, 07:59 PM

"It is a fact."

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Reply "It is a fact." (Original post)
babylonsister May 2013 OP
sheshe2 May 2013 #1
kentuck May 2013 #3
babylonsister May 2013 #7
kentuck May 2013 #13
fasttense May 2013 #26
libdude May 2013 #28
EOTE May 2013 #35
freshwest May 2013 #21
sheshe2 May 2013 #22
Skittles May 2013 #2
msongs May 2013 #4
mercymechap May 2013 #5
Enrique May 2013 #10
mercymechap May 2013 #11
pansypoo53219 May 2013 #6
BlancheSplanchnik May 2013 #9
Cracklin Charlie May 2013 #20
babylonsister May 2013 #24
Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #31
freshwest May 2013 #23
treestar May 2013 #27
Kath1 May 2013 #8
DevonRex May 2013 #12
babylonsister May 2013 #39
Jamaal510 May 2013 #14
xtraxritical May 2013 #30
hue May 2013 #15
ReRe May 2013 #18
Honeycombe8 May 2013 #16
AdHocSolver May 2013 #17
ReRe May 2013 #19
Cha May 2013 #25
spanone May 2013 #29
uponit7771 May 2013 #32
timdog44 May 2013 #33
lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #34
babylonsister May 2013 #36
Berlum May 2013 #37
Initech May 2013 #38
JDPriestly May 2013 #40
pacalo May 2013 #41

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:20 PM

1. " It is a Fact!"

Governor Deval Patrick! Well Said!

Massachusett's Loves you!

Boston Proud!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #1)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:23 PM

3. So, should the Democrats and the President have acted accordingly...

with that information before them? Just asking, not criticizing.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #3)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:50 PM

7. What would you consider 'acted accordingly'? nt

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Response to babylonsister (Reply #7)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:39 PM

13. Maybe not so conciliatory?

or compromising? If someone wants to shoot me, I sure as hell am not going to give them more bullets...

I don't mean to be critical. I mean this in a constructive way. People get angry sometimes when they don't agree with you.

But the President is too good to a fault. He wants to govern and the Republicans want to play politics. He wants to solve problems and they want to clog up the system. They are at loggerheads and never shall the twain meet.

Therefore, what are his options? Piecemeal legislation? Give the Repubs the Air Traffic Control funds and maybe they will give him Meals on Wheels? But they already have the ATC's so when can he expect the Meals on Wheels" Or Headstart?

Is it wrong to point this out? Or does this make people angry and say that you are just looking for something to criticize the President about? I think this is something that needs to be discussed and I thank you for making your other post about suggestions for the President?

I hope we can agree not to call each other names and work toward something we can all agree upon. But maybe I am a lot like the President?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #13)

Thu May 2, 2013, 07:40 AM

26. I believe that the President only appears to be conciliatory

While it is really what he wants to do all along. He said he wanted a public option in the health care debate but never even asked the supporters of a public option to the table to be heard.

He said he wanted to raise the cap on SS but never even proposed such an idea in ANY of his speeches.

He said that he wanted Gitmo closed and signed an Executive Order ordering it done. It was blocked by congress and he just forgot about it.

He said "Sunshine is the best disinfectant" and that he wanted more transparency in the government, Yet he has prosecuted more whistle blowers than ANY other President in history.

He said he would investigate the financial collapse yet not even one banker has been investigated or jailed.

I can go on and on but I think my point has been made.

I believe that this President has done exactly what he wanted to do all along and is only using the Republicans as cover.

Just saying........

Don't get me wrong I worked on both of his campaigns to get him elected, but as Dr Cornell West has said "I will be your biggest supporter to get you elected and the day after you win I will be your biggest critic" I feel the same way.

Mr. President do not just talk a good game,..... DO IT!

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Response to fasttense (Reply #26)

Thu May 2, 2013, 09:28 AM

28. You posed the issues well

As those are my questions which fuel concerns as to what he is about. He frames the issues relating to where the country is today and speaks to what action should be taken to address these issues. But after four years, the fifth year appears to be just a continuation of the previous. He has set goals, but the objectives as to reaching those goals seem to be be lacking.
If the only goal of the Republicans is to obstruct
the President even to the point of damaging the country, then what is the point of continuing to reach a compromise? Regardless of why they want to obstruct, because he is black, I am sure that would be on their list. Because he is a Democrat, yes.
Where does he go ftom here? Hope that 2014 gives different results? Continue to pander to the Republicans? No, not in my world, call the Republican party out, name individuals by name, single out specific Republicans for defeat. Use the " bully pulpit " to savage the Republican party collectively and individually.
As Sen. Toomey indicated, many Republicans voted against the firearms background checks just so they did not appear to support the President. Really, so they will let many Americans die and suffer because they dislike a black, Democratic President. I would set their houses on fire.

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Response to fasttense (Reply #26)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:00 PM

35. You've pretty much said it all with your post.

You especially nail it right here: He said "Sunshine is the best disinfectant" and that he wanted more transparency in the government, Yet he has prosecuted more whistle blowers than ANY other President in history.

This right here shows his hypocrisy more than anything. Not only has he prosecuted more whistle blowers than any other President in history, but he's used the Espionage Act to go after whistleblowers more than every other President in history COMBINED. And sadly, it's the point most often neglected by critics of the president on BOTH sides of the aisle. I'm very tired of the same rhetoric coming from the president with absolutely zero change in policy.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #1)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:52 PM

21. Strong man, tells it like it is. He was great at the DNC last year.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #21)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:56 PM

22. I love our Gov.

I love my State, I love Boston!

Thanks, freshwest!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:23 PM

2. yes

you'd have to be a fucking MORON not to know that

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:33 PM

4. well Mr. Patrick why don't you ask your friend Mr. Obama to start doing so, early and often?

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Response to msongs (Reply #4)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:36 PM

5. Obama has been doing that.

Weren't you listening?

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Response to mercymechap (Reply #5)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:26 PM

10. he has been buying them steaks

and coconut sorbet.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #10)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:30 PM

11. He's tried just about everything -

at this point I say let them eat cake!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 08:48 PM

6. the GOoPers MUST make obama the LAST black president.

i knew it would be clitnonism squared. but that the MEDIA is not saying this is WHAT is is, means they are colluding.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:18 PM

9. right...and that, to me has always driven me especially crazy

We've known the media's been propaganda all along, since the boosh selection at least. Soooo infuriating to know something before the rest of everyone else catches on.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:46 PM

20. Somehow, I think his race has nothing to do with it.

Their corporate bosses don't care what color the president is, as long as the president is a republican. I am certain that they would have employed the exact same stupid strategy had Hillary Clinton been elected. Obstruction is really the only option that the Republicans have. In my opinion, the Republican obstruction strategy could potentially have been much more effective against Sec. Clinton, as they would also have had several more options available as targets. Her spouse, her time as First Lady, her gender, etc.


I think that one of President Obama's greatest accomplishments, and it's an ongoing accomplishment, has been the masterful job he has done to reveal the true Republican agenda of take from the poor and give to the rich. And, he has done this slowly, methodically, and with grinding effectiveness, without ever raising his voice. And he's still got four more years to kick their mange-y Republican asses up and down Pennsylvania Avenue!

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #20)

Wed May 1, 2013, 11:03 PM

24. Hey, I agree, and nice to see you here. nt

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #20)

Thu May 2, 2013, 12:48 PM

31. The Republicans did that to themselves when the ran Mittens....

One of the things I said during that election was the Republicans had spent DECADES building up a solid base of Country Western shitkickers and then threw them under the bus to run a Wall Street guy.

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:58 PM

23. +1,000

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Response to pansypoo53219 (Reply #6)

Thu May 2, 2013, 08:02 AM

27. I agree. This is why they put the screws to everything

Even the ordinary functioning of the government. They can't deal with the idea of a black man being President - it upsets their world view. They are punishing the country for it. Which is why people should have Obama's back rather than letting the Republicans get away with this by blaming the President.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:03 PM

8. That is a fact!

Thanks once again, babylonsister !

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:31 PM

12. You are on fire today!

Thank you. It's helping boost my morale.

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #12)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:36 PM

39. Hey,

don't let the naysayers get to you. I'm seeing lots of articles today concerning rethug recalcitrance and how they're gravely hurting their cause, whatever that may be. Seems people are waking up and blaming one side, and it's not the Dems.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:40 PM

14. The GOP: America's #1 domestic foe.

Slowing economic recovery and social progress since January 2009.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #14)

Thu May 2, 2013, 11:50 AM

30. Since, at least, 1929.

 

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 09:55 PM

15. Thank You Gov. Patrick for saying it loud & clear on Sun. morning news show & posting it on the web!

This can't be said enough as some folks still don't "get it"! (Believe it or not!)

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Response to hue (Reply #15)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:28 PM

18. Right on...

...Duval Patrick was the perfect person to have on the Sunday morning show. A REAL Democrat who will stand up and say what needs to be said. Because he has a backbone!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:07 PM

16. Yep. It's on the table now. The Repubs have put their party above their country

AND millions of citizens...trying to slow the economy and cause suffering among millions, businesses failing. All that matters is that they and their fat cat donors win win win...so they can make more more more money.

That's all it's about for them. No patriotism, not even serving all their constituents...just the fat cats.

It's sickening and disgusting. And the voters are letting them do it! Stupid people.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:19 PM

17. The Republican goal is to trash the U.S. economy and destroy the middle class.

Then the one percent will have complete control of the world's biggest imperial power.

President Obama is merely slowing down the agenda begun under Reagan, continued under Clinton (NAFTA, deregulation of the banking system and the media), and accelerated under Bush.

One has to clearly see the big picture.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Wed May 1, 2013, 10:35 PM

19. Yeah, Rah, Anti-Republican Crusaders!!!!

... and Yeah! Rah!! babylonsister!!! for bringing this to us. We need to send this to Harry Reid. What we really need to do is buy one of those skeletal models of a human spine and send it to Harry. I think it would be a good award to give out once a year to a Democrat in both the House and Senate who showed the most backbone. "The Deval Patrick Golden Backbone Award."

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 02:05 AM

25. Gov Patrick has the President's

back!

thanks for this from facebook, babylonsistah~

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 09:29 AM

29. they hate the black man in the white house

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 01:01 PM

32. If I was Obama every time I was asked an econ question I'd mention this, every single time

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 01:33 PM

33. I like Gov. Deval Patrick.

I like his bearing. I like his stature. I like his positions. I like him for president.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 02:55 PM

34. Slowing down the economy to harm Obama's reelection prospects is bad enough.

But now there's no good reason. Obama isn't going to be reelected, so why continue the sabotage?

Their reason is, and always was, that they hate their constituents.

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Response to lumberjack_jeff (Reply #34)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:05 PM

36. In a nutshell...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251302970

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What’s really happening here, as the Daily Beast’s Michael Tomasky writes, is that the Republican Party has departed from traditional norms of political behavior. He notes that the GOP has become “a radical oppositionalist faction, way beyond the normal American parameters both in terms of ideology and tactics.”

In other words, the GOP doesn’t behave like a party should — it isn’t trying to govern, and it doesn’t have a particular agenda. It opposes Barack Obama’s presence in the White House, and will do anything — kill its own proposals, hold the economy hostage — to damage his standing with the public. How do you bend a party to your will when it has decided that its only self-interested course of action is to deny you all cooperation at all costs?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:05 PM

37. k and r

nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:34 PM

38. The GOP needs to be stopped. They stand for nothing but absolute greed, corruption, and lies.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:38 PM

40. That needs to be called out, and President Obama is to be thanked for saying this out loud in

recent times. Well, not exactly saying it out loud, but coming close. It's time to stop attempting to cooperate with Republicans and simply realize that they will do anything, even ruining our country, to prevent Obama from succeeding.

This is utterly shameful. It takes a lot to make me angry, but this does.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu May 2, 2013, 03:41 PM

41. K&R.

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