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Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:46 PM

Does this piss you off? I think it should. It is fast becoming a scene in every major US city

This one is in DC's McPhearson Square, where Occupy DC has seen their camps broken based on enforcing some bullshit "health" laws. The hazmat suits are a nice touch, huh? Great teevee clip, huh? Makes for great pictures, huh?

"Dirty fucking hippies" is the obvious message being sent. I'm willing to bet anything that is the exact intent.



The way this is now being played is that "authorities" are feigning concern for the protester's health. This allows them to shut down the camps as "health hazards."

What boggles my mind is that most cities shutting down the protests are run by Democratic mayors. The scene above is in what is quite likely one of THE most Democratic cities, Washington, DC. In DC, they're adding a twist. They're simply saying the protesters can stay in the park. They can even have tents. They can even sleep there, in their tents - so long as they don't have "sleeping supplies."

How about we come up with a design for a "sleeping bag suit" that are clothes made for sleeping on the ground?

What always comes up with me is who is pulling the strings that make these camp bustings such a priority? Who is harmed by the camps? Who would want to have them gone?

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Reply Does this piss you off? I think it should. It is fast becoming a scene in every major US city (Original post)
Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 OP
jorno67 Feb 2012 #1
Zalatix Feb 2012 #15
onehandle Feb 2012 #2
sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #16
surrealAmerican Feb 2012 #18
Doremus Feb 2012 #39
EFerrari Feb 2012 #44
hobbit709 Feb 2012 #52
Fumesucker Feb 2012 #3
Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #4
GOTV Feb 2012 #61
Warpy Feb 2012 #5
Life Long Dem Feb 2012 #6
-..__... Feb 2012 #7
Jackpine Radical Feb 2012 #8
sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #17
obliviously Feb 2012 #20
annabanana Feb 2012 #11
Doremus Feb 2012 #40
lunatica Feb 2012 #50
WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2012 #9
sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #10
limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #42
snot Feb 2012 #12
Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #13
snot Feb 2012 #73
T S Justly Feb 2012 #14
Robb Feb 2012 #19
pasto76 Feb 2012 #21
provis99 Feb 2012 #23
jeff47 Feb 2012 #36
provis99 Feb 2012 #38
jeff47 Feb 2012 #45
provis99 Feb 2012 #69
jeff47 Feb 2012 #70
provis99 Feb 2012 #72
hootinholler Feb 2012 #29
Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #62
hootinholler Feb 2012 #67
OffWithTheirHeads Feb 2012 #22
SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #24
hootinholler Feb 2012 #30
SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2012 #48
sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #35
TBF Feb 2012 #37
JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #25
rustydog Feb 2012 #26
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #27
KG Feb 2012 #31
SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #28
MadHound Feb 2012 #32
Bigmack Feb 2012 #33
HCE SuiGeneris Feb 2012 #34
Saving Hawaii Feb 2012 #41
ellisonz Feb 2012 #71
donheld Feb 2012 #43
Starry Messenger Feb 2012 #46
Hissyspit Feb 2012 #47
Pharaoh Feb 2012 #49
madokie Feb 2012 #51
just1voice Feb 2012 #53
chervilant Feb 2012 #54
Madmiddle Feb 2012 #55
Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #59
woo me with science Feb 2012 #56
hay rick Feb 2012 #58
woo me with science Feb 2012 #68
icymist Feb 2012 #57
Gregorian Feb 2012 #60
zorahopkins Feb 2012 #63
WhoIsNumberNone Feb 2012 #64
zorahopkins Feb 2012 #65
Stinky The Clown Feb 2012 #66

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:48 PM

1. look at it this way...

By having camps that are deemed in in need of removal...OWS has created more jobs than the entire republican party.

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Response to jorno67 (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:15 PM

15. +100! LOL!!!

 

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:52 PM

2. It's probably an OSHA requirement in that situation.

Sorry, but to get me to handle that quantity of other people's 'trash,' I would want a hazmat suit.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:23 PM

16. Well, assuming there was trash. But as most eyewitnesses have said, the occupiers take care

of the trash so this is just a propaganda move on the part of the employees of the 1%.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:55 PM

18. I've never seen garbage collectors dressed like that ...

... and they surely handle far more "other people's trash" every day.

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Response to surrealAmerican (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:19 PM

39. Ding ding ding we have a winner

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:10 AM

44. Obviously, Occupy has WMD.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:27 AM

52. I don't see my regular trash guys wear them.

I'm willing to bet there's a lot more hazardous materials in people's trash cans.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:52 PM

3. Keep in mind that Chicago 68 was thanks to Bill Daley..

That Democratic mayors would bust on OWS should come as no surprise at all.

Indeed I think Jean Quan should be a keynote speaker at the DNC.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:54 PM

4. Consider what they will do to repress this movement if and when it continues to grow.

They will stop at nothing. They are playing with real money and the stakes are huge.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:12 PM

61. Which I think it will when the weather starts to break

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 03:56 PM

5. While this propaganda is likely effective in the heartland

it's likely countereffective on both coasts and in major cities throughout the country.

The whole thing makes me furious, especially since it's the quickest way to get GOP mayors into those cities, and the GOPs would be worse.

If those mayors are capable of catching a passing clue, this should be it: local PDs need to be reined in severely. No matter how loudly the wealthy scream about the "dirty fucking hippies" camping downtown, the health department should be the ones overseeing health and making sanitation suggestions. Sending the PD in to clean them out is entirely reminiscent of burning Hoovervilles in the last Depression.

In the long term, it will also likely be just the way that worked out, with the public turning harshly away from the PTB because the PTB have proven themselves to be the public's enemy.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:02 PM

6. Then go white.

 

Use all white material for tents and wear white suits or clothing. Or keep it all clean. Or go to the courts.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:03 PM

7. Something like this, perhaps?

 

How about we come up with a design for a "sleeping bag suit" that are clothes made for sleeping on the ground?



Admittedly, there is a design flaw or two... lack of any arm mobility makes it impossible to wave a protest sign or bang away on a set of bongos.

On the plus side... it would make an awesomely ridiculous WTF head scratching moment if worn while wearing a Guy Fawkes mask.

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Response to -..__... (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:13 PM

8. Indeed.

"On the plus side... it would make an awesomely ridiculous WTF head scratching moment if worn while wearing a Guy Fawkes mask."

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:50 PM

17. Lol!

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 06:16 PM

20. Why yes

What better way could be thought of for making a total fool out of oneself!

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Response to -..__... (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:45 PM

11. They would hav eto strip people to remove the sleeping bag...

It would make some interesting video

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Response to -..__... (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:24 PM

40. Sleeping Bag Coats: Makeshift Wearable Homeless Shelters

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Response to -..__... (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:23 AM

50. They'll arrest anyone wearing one for impersonating a sleeping instrument

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:37 PM

9. Change Occupy tactics, keep shifting targets, Make Occupy flexible.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:44 PM

10. They are doing that. As I pointed out earlier, they never expected to be stationary as long as they

have been so they have far exceeded their own expectations as far as occupying parks etc. Now they can move on to another phase and probably get around some of the laws by being creative. And when they do, the authorities will again crack down on them. Because it is their message the authorities are afraid of, not their camps. I am willing to bet that if there were pro-Banks occupiers all over the country, no one would bother them at all.

Clearly they have succeeded in their main goal, to focus attention on economic inequality and the corruption of money on the system we currently live under. If they had not, no one would be bothering them.

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Response to WHEN CRABS ROAR (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:36 PM

42. This is an important point.

Be flexible. Occupying parks was cool, but hopefully the movement will grow and maybe outgrow parks at some point.

I'm hoping there will be lots of branching off and new groups formed with a variety of goals but sharing common principles and drawing inspiration from OWS.

I'm sure that is probably already happening and I'm just not hip to it yet because I'm old...

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:55 PM

12. Don't buy into the "health hazard" lies.

At least, not unless you visited the camp for yourself. Officials in our town claimed health hazard, too, but every time I went there, it was immaculate -- literally not a gum wrapper on the ground anywhere in the camp, and cleaner than the surrounding areas.

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Response to snot (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 04:57 PM

13. Um . . . . .

. . . . . I'm not buying into the health hazard thing, I am calling the PTB out on it.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 11, 2012, 01:02 AM

73. Sorry; that should have been addressed to others, not you.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 05:12 PM

14. If the question is, who would want the most expensive response to Occupy, then the answer is ...

 

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 06:04 PM

19. In a sense, you can blame Clinton.

It was his administration's OSHA that developed the stringent mandates for employer-provided personal protective equipment.

The bar for when they are required to be used was set amazingly low. 1996 I believe, or 1994. I can look it up, but it was during my tenure driving ambulances.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 08:56 PM

21. if you had this job and didnt wear a tyvek suit ("hazmat" is a bit over the top), you'd be foolish

bedbugs would be my first concern.

wouldnt be the first time someone left a bag of feces as a dirty "got ya"

Or pissed on something

Do you know that there are some many diseases out there that, even if you are a super doctor with a million certificates and degrees, you are NOT required to give someone rescue breaths if you dont have a barrier? Thats how much risk is actually out there.

Field sanitation is quite a serious issue. Poor hygiene took out 58% of my platoon for almost a week in Iraq with a bout or oral-fecal contamination.

you dont need a sleeping bag suit. There are plenty of off the shelf products you can buy at ems/rei/where ever to spend the night outside in comfort.

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:13 PM

23. piss is sterile. It is less likely to harm you than the local water.

 

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Response to provis99 (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:58 PM

36. Piss starts sterile

It doesn't stay sterile very long when it's out in the open.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #36)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:14 PM

38. neither does water.

 

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Response to provis99 (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:16 AM

45. Difference is pure water won't help stuff grow as well

The minerals in piss are helpful to bacteria. Distilled water when left out isn't going to grow much until something else gets mixed into it.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 06:40 PM

69. I don't think the water in nature is distilled.

 

you can get polio from it, which you can't get from piss.

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Response to provis99 (Reply #69)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:13 PM

70. Water in nature isn't sterilized.

Which, if you go back up 3 posts, is what you were talking about.

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Response to jeff47 (Reply #70)

Wed Feb 8, 2012, 08:17 PM

72. so you're agreeing with me. good.

 

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:16 PM

29. Hmmmmm

Field sanitation is quite a serious issue. Poor hygiene took out 58% of my platoon for almost a week in Iraq with a bout or oral-fecal contamination.


You weren't getting your water and chow from KBR contractors about that time were you? What were people sick from? There is no diagnosis of oral-fecal contamination, it really doesn't make much sense unless there was some serious kink going on.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:16 PM

62. "...it's no big deal!"

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:28 PM

67. I guess not

I didn't get any explanation as to what was going on.

I love that movie. My sister's MIL is one of the shocked ladies in the discovery scene. She worked at the course where it was filmed.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:12 PM

22. Just so you know, those are not hazmat suits

That is the new Klan uniform.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:17 PM

24. In DC

It doesn't matter about the Democratic mayor - this is federal land, and it is U.S. Park Police moving them out, not local MPD.

I haven't seen the camp, but area residents were complaining about a rat infestation. No idea whether or not this is accurate.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:22 PM

30. Rats? In MacPherson square?

Gambling? In Casa Blanca?

DC has a huge rat problem which is not limited to occupy camps. For every complaint there were half a dozen saying WTF the rats were there way before occupy. But it was a rather convenient excuse to shut down the kitchen.

But nice try with that talking point.

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Response to hootinholler (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 04:55 AM

48. Don't know what your problem is

I wasn't stating it as fact or using it as a talking point, just stating what's been in the news in this area.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:50 PM

35. The Park Police have been very friendly to them from the beginning and consistently said

they were not going to move them out. But Daryl Issa put pressure on them and they caved. And they never had any complaints about rats or anything else. They caved to political pressure and are looking for an excuse now to explain it all away.

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Response to SickOfTheOnePct (Reply #24)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:02 PM

37. Rats in DC? Really? Heh.

To be serious there has long been a rat problem - and not just regarding the politicians. In the 1990s one of the major law firms re-did a building and had many problems with rats during the building. Of course that prompted many jokes about the law firm moving into the new building. I would expect that problem in any major city, but I know for a fact it has existed in DC long before OWS came along.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:37 PM

25. Nothing new historically.

From the Bonus Soldiers after WWI to the Native American occupation of Alcatraz, protest camps only last until the protestors let it be known they aren't leaving public land any time soon.

Politicians know as well as everyone that occupations become tent cities. Tent cities turn into shanty towns, and shanty towns morph into smoldering slums that adopt the name of the governor or president in office at the time. "Hooverville" was a depession era occupation that met a similar but decidedly more violent fate in it's day.

Peaceful protests are tolerated as long as the people go home, change clothes, and come back tomorrow without a sleeping bag, but once a protest files for it's own zip code, it's days are sadly numbered.

Don't get me wrong, I'm 100% behind the 99%, but I differ in execution and see the occupation phase of this leaderless movement ending like all the other occupations in American history, which is to say "not good". Still, I'm confident the movement will live beyond this part of the struggle and go to make progress.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:43 PM

26. Can't occupy make it's point without making a tent city out of every public site they take over?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 09:57 PM

27. Well they broke the law

And are sick puppies...

The MSM told me so, therefore it must be true...

And more than a few believe it.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:25 PM

31. and somebody threw a brick...

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:10 PM

28. These ows encampments fed homeless people, gave them tents and provided a

safe environment for them. These encampments were good for so many reasons. Probably why the PTB wanted them removed.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:26 PM

32. Why should it surprise you that it is Democratic mayors?

 

After all, it was a Democratic mayor, at the behest of the Democratic power elite, that unleashed a police riot on peaceful protesters at the Democratic National Convention in 1968.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:27 PM

33. What about the mess after Superbowel? (Yes.. I know.. spelling) nt

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 10:38 PM

34. The clamps continue to tighten

and it is imperative that we fight back.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:30 PM

41. City politics is different than federal/state politics.

The standard party lines don't apply in city politics. Real estate vs neighborhood interests are a big deal. Transit policy is a big deal. Macroeconomic policy, not so much. And there's a tremendous amount of pressure on local governments from developers who want every high-rise to have a nice white picket fence out front.

You also have to remember. Whereas national politics sometimes becomes a little more abstract, city politics is very Roman... very pragmatic. Decisions aren't made because they're the right decision. They're made because they're the expedient one. As much as a mayor may support a cause, none are going to support civil unrest in their little corner of the earth.

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Response to Saving Hawaii (Reply #41)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 09:46 PM

71. +1

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Sun Feb 5, 2012, 11:52 PM

43. Meanwhile, Wall Street crimes are ignored.

Yes it pisses me the hell off.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:20 AM

47. Bonus Army Camp Destroyed In D.C.



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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:18 AM

49. snowmobile suits

is like a perfect sleeping bag, you would be snug as a bug in one, may even get too hot!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 09:26 AM

51. Yes it does

pisses me right the fuck off that the consensus among the ruling class thinks and believes it is their right and duty to do this to begin with.
If I could figure out how to live and not have to buy anything I'd do it but there is no way I could boycott every one of these leaches on society. Blood sucking bastards/B's, whatever the case may be, all of them

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 10:03 AM

53. D.C. just looks democratic, it's conservative and oppressive

 

There are 10 different kinds of police everywhere in D.C. that prey on the people much more than they protect them.

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Response to just1voice (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 10:27 AM

54. Hear, hear!

I'm reminded of the contemporary version of the Karate Kid (sigh...), with street scenes replete with "police" officers watching every corner. What was the intent? Show how oppressive are the Chinese? Well, we've got that here, in spades.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:15 AM

55. America

is run as a police state. What is happening is the tearing down of democracy itself. Fascist mayors and police departments are taking it on themselves to break up what is or once was lawful protests. This shit is gonna turn into something other than peaceful soon because the police are breaking constitutional law.

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Response to Madmiddle (Reply #55)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 01:47 PM

59. Police departments do what the mayors tell them to do. They don't act on their own

Some writes the order to the police.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:21 AM

56. Disgusting propaganda.

That is all that is. Janitors don't wear Hazmat suits. Even hospital workers don't wear Hazmat suits for normal clean-up.

Shame on our government for these tactics.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:41 PM

58. The real "germs" they are afraid of are ideas.

The ideas of OWS and the 99% will go right through those suits.

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Response to hay rick (Reply #58)

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 12:50 PM

68. Perfectly said. nt

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 11:22 AM

57. My guess is that the PTB want everyone getting used to the hazmat suits.

Then they'll hit OWS with something really toxic, more than just tear gas and pepper spray. But then again, I have a tendency toward paranoia.

What? Still no spell check? Dammit! I'm too lazy to learn to spell!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 02:08 PM

60. That is right out of 1984.

I wonder if the warming of the frog water makes it so that people don't see this. It's as obvious as the sun is bright, to me.

Welcome to the new world order.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:21 PM

63. A Democratic President Did This

McPherson Square (where this took place) in DC is Federal Property.

This means that this was NOT done by local DC cops.

It was done by US Park Police.

They report to President Obama.

President Obama could have stopped this.

Why he let it happen is anyone's guess.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:24 PM

64. In the case of ODC, it's Darrell Issa

He's been leaning on the Park Police for some time now

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:26 PM

65. The Park Police Report To The President

The Park Police report to the President, not to Darrel Issa.

President Obama COULD have stopped this from happening.

He didn't.

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Response to WhoIsNumberNone (Reply #64)

Mon Feb 6, 2012, 03:28 PM

66. Hmmph

We all knew Issa was a monumental Piece Of Shit.

I would love to see Gray Davis take his seat in Congress just for the ironic humor. (Yeah, I know, not the same districts)

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