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Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:29 AM

I like this Uncle, Ruslan Tsarni...

He seems like a real straight shooter who doesn't suffer fools lightly.

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Reply I like this Uncle, Ruslan Tsarni... (Original post)
MrScorpio Apr 2013 OP
Patiod Apr 2013 #1
PearliePoo2 Apr 2013 #29
freshwest Apr 2013 #40
hamsterjill Apr 2013 #61
bunnies Apr 2013 #2
malaise Apr 2013 #3
avaistheone1 Apr 2013 #4
Catherine Vincent Apr 2013 #5
randome Apr 2013 #6
CakeGrrl Apr 2013 #7
godai Apr 2013 #8
RudynJack Apr 2013 #10
KatyMan Apr 2013 #11
godai Apr 2013 #14
hlthe2b Apr 2013 #12
godai Apr 2013 #15
hlthe2b Apr 2013 #17
godai Apr 2013 #25
hlthe2b Apr 2013 #26
godai Apr 2013 #27
hlthe2b Apr 2013 #30
godai Apr 2013 #31
hlthe2b Apr 2013 #32
seabeyond Apr 2013 #34
godai Apr 2013 #37
seabeyond Apr 2013 #39
Zax2me Apr 2013 #53
seabeyond Apr 2013 #57
joeglow3 Apr 2013 #36
AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #49
godai Apr 2013 #51
godai Apr 2013 #52
godai Apr 2013 #55
AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #47
godai Apr 2013 #50
AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #56
laundry_queen Apr 2013 #54
AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #59
FarCenter Apr 2013 #9
stevenleser Apr 2013 #13
mainstreetonce Apr 2013 #18
FarCenter Apr 2013 #20
karynnj Apr 2013 #45
freshwest Apr 2013 #42
godai Apr 2013 #64
LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #16
godai Apr 2013 #19
LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #24
Xyzse Apr 2013 #33
LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #35
Xyzse Apr 2013 #38
starroute Apr 2013 #46
Xyzse Apr 2013 #48
LiberalEsto Apr 2013 #58
Xyzse Apr 2013 #60
Kingofalldems Apr 2013 #21
flamingdem Apr 2013 #22
meow2u3 Apr 2013 #44
WorseBeforeBetter Apr 2013 #23
reformist2 Apr 2013 #28
LisaL Apr 2013 #41
reformist2 Apr 2013 #65
freshwest Apr 2013 #43
Cleita Apr 2013 #62
Taverner Apr 2013 #63
jonthebru Apr 2013 #66
mchill Apr 2013 #67
FarCenter Apr 2013 #68

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:32 AM

1. That broke my heart

We all have loser relatives. Imagine waking up and seeing them spread all over the TV.

Ugh.

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Response to Patiod (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM

29. He had such courage to come out and speak to the press.

I felt so bad for him knowing his life has changed now. I saw him wiping his eyes as he walked back to his house. Most likely tears.

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Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #29)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM

40. +1

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Response to Patiod (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:39 PM

61. Exactly!

We all have loser relatives for which we have NO control over their actions.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:32 AM

2. I feel so bad for him.

Poor guy. I cant imagine what he's going through.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:33 AM

3. Agree

His life now changes forever

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:33 AM

4. He said they did this because they are losers.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:34 AM

5. He's so ashamed

I would be too.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:34 AM

6. I posted elsewhere that he might be a target for someone wanting revenge.

After this, I don't think so. He did the right thing.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:36 AM

7. Agree. Sounds like he knows

how quickly the lynch mob mentality will flare up once the mob figures out the target and is wisely using the media to get his message out.

I like that he called them out as 'unsettled losers'. Interesting contrast to the father defending his 'angel' son.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:38 AM

8. Would have been nice if he called the FBI yesterday.

These relatives must have know immediately from the photos, who they were.

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Response to godai (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:40 AM

10. The uncle said

he hasn't seen them since 2005. He might not have recognized them.

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Response to godai (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:40 AM

11. Maybe he did

Maybe that's where the FBI got the names?

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Response to KatyMan (Reply #11)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:44 AM

14. They were discovered robbing a 7-11.

FBI could have gotten them at home if they know their identities.

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Response to godai (Reply #8)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:40 AM

12. How do you know he didn't? It was reported that they had spoken with an uncle very early

this morning (mountain time) or possibly overnight.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:45 AM

15. 7-11 robbery was late last night. n/t

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Response to godai (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:46 AM

17. Late last night eastern time... It was reported early this morning MOUNTAIN TIME!

You seem very determined to excoriate every relative of his. Interesting to imagine WHY?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:50 AM

25. Uhhhh...mountain time would have the report earlier.

You seem to want to defend their relatives no matter what. Interesting to imagine WHY?

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Response to godai (Reply #25)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:52 AM

26. I sense a vey ugly undertone in your posts...VERY UGLY. I will not be responding to you futher.

While i realize you are having difficulty with reading comprehension, I said
It was reported that they had spoken with an uncle very early
this morning (mountain time) or possibly overnight.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #26)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM

27. What...too many FACTS for you? n/t

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Response to godai (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:56 AM

30. You apparently are unwillliing/unable to read with any comprehension.

So, beyond my concerns that you may be moving toward some very unpleasant and possibly racist attitudes, the fact you can not/will not read and comprehend what I wrote makes it impossible to have a constructive discussion with you.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #30)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:58 AM

31. I hate these 2 guys and will not trust their relatives until they're proven to be not involved.

You, on the other hand, seem to blindly trust them.

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Response to godai (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:00 PM

32. ^^^EVERYONE SHOULD SEE HOW THIS POSTER BEHAVES^^

I said nothing about anyone but the uncle, who is not even a suspect at this point. To construe otherwise/to conflate that as support for these two killers-- tells everyone here at DU what YOU are all about and YOUR tactics.

You may just be emotional. You may just be "scared".. but this is a contemptible tactic... This is what we'd expect those on the other side--those other websites--to do.

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Response to godai (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:07 PM

34. guilt by association. or simply cause islamic? do you say the same about oh.. every other criminal's

family?

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #34)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:14 PM

37. During a terrorism investigation, things are different.

The relatives may be completely innocent. I guarantee that they'll be investigated. That's all I'm saying. Are US cities shut down for every crime? This is different.

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Response to godai (Reply #37)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM

39. oh fuck that. terrorism my ass. no different than mcveigh, the austin irs dive bomber or the many

other "white christian" terrorist bullshit that we ignore.

so, islamic. that is what does it for you. gotcha.

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Response to seabeyond (Reply #39)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM

53. Because that is what it is.

 

Islamic terrorism.
Denial is the food of ignorance -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/massive-police-operation-under-way-in-boston/2013/04/19/979ec6dc-a8c6-11e2-a8e2-5b98cb59187f_print.html
Two law enforcement officials said they believe there is a “Chechen connection” to the bombings. In the last several months, Tamerlan Tsarnaev had posted videos to YouTube indicating his interest in radical Muslim ideologies.

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Response to Zax2me (Reply #53)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:31 PM

57. and mcveigh was getting together with his christian buddies, ect... the motivation is

loser, anti social. extremism.

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Response to godai (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:13 PM

36. Yeah. And many loon say the same thing about all muslims

Their position carries about as much weight as yours does.

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Response to godai (Reply #31)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:26 PM

49. Guilty till proven innocent. Gotcha.

You realize the FBI probably interviewed him before the press conference, right?

Hell, he might even be in protective custody right now.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:29 PM

52. self delete

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #49)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:31 PM

55. self delete

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Response to godai (Reply #27)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:24 PM

47. You conflate facts and assumptions.

You ASSUME the families must have known from the photos.

You know what they say about assumptions...

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #47)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:27 PM

50. The relative indicated he knew from the photos today. No assumption.

So, from the photos yesterday, he should have had the same conclusion. Maybe he didn't see the photos yesterday? Possible, I guess.

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Response to godai (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:31 PM

56. That is what he indicated.

When he was talking about "AOL". Would have to know when he saw the photo, but doesn't seem to me like he withheld anything or would withhold anything.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #47)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:30 PM

54. The uncle let it slip

That they recognized them from the photos online from LAST NIGHT, which contradicts what he said a few minutes before about 'not knowing' until 7 am. Not sure if it was a language issue but it didn't sound like it.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #54)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:37 PM

59. His wife showed him the photo on the phone interview.

"it is reminding me very much of him"

The photos he saw the day before probably weren't as clear. (I didn't see the high rez until this morning, PST)

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:39 AM

9. Resettled by the CIA?

Another admission on political asylum grounds?

In boxing photos, older brother had a Mercedes? Where is the money coming from?

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:42 AM

13. Wait, what? CIA?

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:46 AM

18. That uncle

Is a brave and good man. I hope good Americans treat him kindly.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:48 AM

20. CIA operatives from Chechnya or other breakaway republics would be extracted and resettled

Particularly if they also had knowledge of Central Asian Russian and CIS information and/or could continue to be used as analysts, etc.

All part of the dirty wars in the '80s and '90 in the Caucasus, Central Asia, and Xinjiang using Islamists to destabilize former Soviet Union and China.

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #20)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:21 PM

45. They were here since 2001 per some accounts - mostly likely as a young teen and a kid - or both kids

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Response to FarCenter (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:19 PM

42. They stole the Mercedes, I think. Listening to live TV since last night.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #42)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:49 PM

64. There's an older online photo with him standing in front of 'his Mercedes.' n/t

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:45 AM

16. Where in Maryland does Ruslan live?

Wondering if he's near Rockville

Someone posted that he's from MoCo! (Montgomery County)

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Response to LiberalEsto (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:47 AM

19. I believe it's Montgoomery Village, just north of Rockville. n/t

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Response to godai (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:49 AM

24. That's 3 miles from me

Montgomery Village is just north of Gaithersburg.
I live in Derwood, between Gaithersburg and Rockville.
This area is such a wonderful melting post of people from different countries and backgrounds.

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Response to LiberalEsto (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:06 PM

33. Very close to me too.

I like the area I am in.

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Response to Xyzse (Reply #33)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:08 PM

35. I see you're in Germantown - that is close

I used to be in the UU congregation there, but recently switched to a closer one.

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Response to LiberalEsto (Reply #35)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:15 PM

38. UU?

What is that?

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Response to Xyzse (Reply #38)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:23 PM

46. Unitarian-Universalist

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Response to starroute (Reply #46)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:24 PM

48. Aha, thanks.

I am so lost with all these constrictions.

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Response to Xyzse (Reply #38)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:33 PM

58. Unitarian Universalist

Very liberal, not required to believe in God, non dogmatic.

More info: http://www.uua.org/index.shtml

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Response to LiberalEsto (Reply #58)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:38 PM

60. I see, sounds good.

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Response to LiberalEsto (Reply #16)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:48 AM

21. Montgomery Village

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:48 AM

22. Terrorism vs. Loserism

The two are related.

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #22)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:20 PM

44. Terrorism and Loserism are one and the same IMO

In other words, terrorists are losers because they're ice cold dead inside, which makes them want to kill everybody else around them to drag them down to their level.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:48 AM

23. Yeah, he's not mincing words. (n/t)

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 11:54 AM

28. Did he explain who was taking care of his nephews?

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:16 PM

41. They are both adults.

Who is supposed to be taking care of them, and why exactly they can't take care of themselves?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #41)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:52 PM

65. I think it would be interesting to know if he had any real adults in his life.

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Response to reformist2 (Reply #28)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:20 PM

43. Said he hadn't seen them since 2005 and that father had no control over them whatsoever.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:40 PM

62. I think he took a big chance doing that press conference in English being

his English is not that fluent. I would have opted for a translator. He still knows good enough English to know if the translator wasn't saying what he meant but he could have been more precise in his language.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:44 PM

63. Me too - I'm hoping the "Losers" meme goes viral

 

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 12:52 PM

66. Lighten up everybody.

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Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 01:32 PM

67. Uncle's profession

Might be the same man:

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1075247/000104476405000076/exhibit1073rtsarniconsulting.htm

He's also linked to some oil company in the UK, more recently. In both cases, as a lawyer.

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Response to mchill (Reply #67)

Fri Apr 19, 2013, 04:17 PM

68. Big Sky was drilling in Kazakistan

Now delisted.

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