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Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:06 PM

Who do you prefer: Barack Obama or Ronald Reagan?

Obama? Me too. But every now and then, something tells me I oughta be a Gipper man.

(It'll only hurt a little to watch)







Of course Obama never funded terrorists or compared those terrorists to the Founding Fathers, so you gotta learn to be balanced about these sorts of things.

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Reply Who do you prefer: Barack Obama or Ronald Reagan? (Original post)
Bucky Apr 2013 OP
uppityperson Apr 2013 #1
SidDithers Apr 2013 #2
FSogol Apr 2013 #3
SidDithers Apr 2013 #4
one_voice Apr 2013 #11
madokie Apr 2013 #6
Bucky Apr 2013 #8
indepat Apr 2013 #14
leftstreet Apr 2013 #17
Lilyeye Apr 2013 #27
MineralMan Apr 2013 #5
Bucky Apr 2013 #10
Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #7
Boomerproud Apr 2013 #9
Terra Alta Apr 2013 #12
hfojvt Apr 2013 #13
LukeFL Apr 2013 #15
Bucky Apr 2013 #18
UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #16
tarheelsunc Apr 2013 #19
SidDithers Apr 2013 #20
MrSlayer Apr 2013 #21
hfojvt Apr 2013 #22
HiPointDem Apr 2013 #26
pnwmom Apr 2013 #23
HiPointDem Apr 2013 #25
HiPointDem Apr 2013 #24
a kennedy Jul 7 #28

Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:17 PM

1. Obama by a HUGE amount. For all the bad stuff, there is no comparison.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:18 PM

2. If anyone says Ronald Reagan, they should be PPR'd...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:19 PM

3. And have their ass kicked.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:20 PM

4. Egg-zactly...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:38 PM

11. I agree with both of you...

ppr and ass kicking!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:27 PM

6. Calling Skittles

Ass kicking needed

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:34 PM

8. You read the post, right? You watched all 37 seconds of the video?

Just double checkin'

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:42 PM

14. On a scale of 1 to 10, if the gipper were a 1, BHO would be a strong

9 imo.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:54 PM

17. But Obama admires Reagan n/t

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 20, 2013, 08:05 PM

27. There is a documentry running on National Geographic about the 80s

Their facebook page asked people to choose between President Obama or President Reagan and the majority are voting for Reagan. People are saying he was the best President who ever lived and that the 80s were the golden years of prosperity. I cringed reading those comments considering this country is still suffering from polices enacted in the 1980s.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:26 PM

5. I like the one who is alive.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:36 PM

10. !!

Good one

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:27 PM

7. Obama. In fact Reagn was so horrible that the comparison is an insult to Obama and to comparisons.

Dutch was the worst, in more than one field.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:34 PM

9. All Reagan fanatics should have to be time-traveled back to the 80's and live through

the reality. No president did more psychological harm than Ronnie. I also refuse to watch the vid to hear that syrupy voice. Grrrr.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:40 PM

12. Obama, obviously

Though Reagan would have been labeled a RINO by today's teabaggers.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:41 PM

13. you mean there's a difference?

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:52 PM

15. Lol

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:54 PM

18. Oh no you didn't!

Again, Obama doesn't fund terrorists. Big difference.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 08:52 PM

16. Don't miss Reagan at all.

 

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2008/011908.html

Though Obama’s chief point was that Reagan in 1980 “put us on a fundamentally different path” – which may be historically undeniable – the Democratic presidential candidate went further, justifying Reagan's course correction because of “all the excesses of the 1960s and 1970s, and government had grown and grown, but there wasn’t much sense of accountability.”

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:03 PM

19. I seriously wish this was a poll instead.

Then we would know for sure who the trolls who need to head on back to FreeRepublic are.

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Response to tarheelsunc (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:05 PM

20. They'd be too chickenshit to vote, and put their name to it...nt

Sid

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Wed Apr 17, 2013, 09:20 PM

21. Reagan raised the cap. Obama won't even mention it as a possible solution.

 

Reagan's puppeteers started all this trickle down bullshit but NO ONE has ended it. We've just been getting deeper and deeper into Reaganism as we go along, to the point where our Democratic President is overall further to the right than Reagan was. Our Democratic Party is the party of Reagan's corporate policies now and the Republican Party is for flat out Christofascism. There is no FDR or pro-labor party anymore.

What's your choice? Death squads or drones? Tax cuts or……tax cuts? More government spending and government jobs or less of both?

There's no answer to your question really. Obama is more Reagan than Reagan. It's a worsening disease.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:20 AM

22. Reagan didn't really raise the cap

Here's the history of it

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/cbb.html

You see the cap was increasing even before Reagan, although it was flat from 1937-1950.

The real value of the cap in 2013 dollars increased from $73,165 in 1980 to $88,544 in 1988, but it was also growing before Reagan, being just $62,324 in 1974.

The real thing Reagan did was increase the payroll tax, it was 6.13% in 1980 and 7.65% by 1990 (although some of those increases may have come from laws passed before Reagan was President) and the tax increase on the self-employed was huge. Those job creators saw their tax rate go from 8.1% in 1980 to 15.3% by 1990, almost a 90% increase, and on top of the increases in the cap. http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxRates.html

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:15 AM

26. the 'cap' increases everytime there's an inflation adjustment in benefits. they're tied together.

 

the reagan admin *accelerated* already scheduled payroll tax increases. also began taxation of benefits, cut some benefits (such as the college education benefit for children of SS beneficiaries), and raised the retirement age.

i.e. reagan cut benefits and raised taxes.

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 02:22 AM

23. Reagan wanted to destroy Social Security. He only backed down when he saw

that he would lose.

His whole scheme was the same one followed by Bush: to drive up the deficits to unheard of levels, and then to use them as an excuse to hack away at social programs. Social Security was always on his list. Fortunately, Reagan didn't succeed.

But Bush took over, handed out massive tax cuts while he started two unfunded wars, accrued massive deficits, and seems to be succeeding where Reagan didn't: in convincing a significant number of Americans that Social Security may be a problem.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:10 AM

25. reagan cut social security in multiple ways. he *did* succeed.

 

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Thu Apr 18, 2013, 04:10 AM

24. reagan cut social security in multiple ways. the biggest ss cutter so far.

 

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Response to Bucky (Original post)

Mon Jul 7, 2014, 07:15 PM

28. Watching the 80's again on the National Geographic channel again....and

The 90's are up next..... Wow. "The Last great Decade" and I wonder who decided that?

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