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Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:47 PM

yes.. i am going to profile and speculate...

Which group of people thinks the Income Tax is unconstitutional and that April 15 is a day of infamy?

Today is Patriot Day in Massachusetts ... commemorating the first shots of the American Revolution in Lexington and Concord. Which group of people keeps saying that we need another American Revolution?

This week commemorates the siege on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco and Ruby Ridge. Which group of people are commonly linked to those events and/or considers them exhibits of government run amok?

This week is the 18th anniversary of Oklahoma City.

This was a crude set of explosives, non suicide bombing, and didn't fit any of the profiles of Islamic terrorism.

Yes. I am profiling. Thats what the Dept of Homeland Security is doing right now too.

This has all the earmarks a Glenn Beck listening, freerepublic reading, anti-government political statement.

If it is not a freeper, whoever did it wanted to make it look like it was a freeper.


Occam's Razor says.... white militia.

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Reply yes.. i am going to profile and speculate... (Original post)
scheming daemons Apr 2013 OP
DonCoquixote Apr 2013 #1
Marr Apr 2013 #6
Ian David Apr 2013 #2
Ilsa Apr 2013 #3
Old Troop Apr 2013 #19
Ilsa Apr 2013 #27
arely staircase Apr 2013 #4
littlewolf Apr 2013 #5
jimlup Apr 2013 #7
kentuck Apr 2013 #8
arely staircase Apr 2013 #16
KG Apr 2013 #24
Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #26
MichiganVote Apr 2013 #9
Zax2me Apr 2013 #10
moondust Apr 2013 #11
Hekate Apr 2013 #12
alcibiades_mystery Apr 2013 #13
socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #17
Blue Idaho Apr 2013 #29
WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2013 #14
politicat Apr 2013 #25
frazzled Apr 2013 #15
MNBrewer Apr 2013 #20
frazzled Apr 2013 #21
MNBrewer Apr 2013 #22
rdharma Apr 2013 #18
LiberalElite Apr 2013 #23
jeff47 Apr 2013 #28
davidpdx Apr 2013 #30
Llewlladdwr Apr 2013 #31

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:52 PM

1. yes, but do not forget one thing

A foreign terrorist is smart enough to make it look like a freeper. We cannot assume.

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:00 PM

6. Terrorists don't try to blame their acts on other groups.

The whole point is to claim responsibility and push a cause.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:53 PM

2. Thank you, Captain Obvious. n/t

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:55 PM

3. I lean towards the same ideas.

I won't jump to conclusions and ask for all the right-wing radicals to be rounded up, but I would certainly understand it if that's where the FBI is headed.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:20 PM

19. RW Radicals rounded up?

What would you have the government do with them?

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Response to Old Troop (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:55 PM

27. Hyperbole and sarcasm.

Of course I don't want them "rounded up". I'm just saying I won't be surprised if the rightwing militants mentioned in the OP end up claiming responsibility, or are eventually determined to be the perpetrators.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:57 PM

4. all good points

but, point by point

Despite the dates, would a Marathon closely associated with American patriotism be the target of militia types - as opposed to government buildings and public employees?

The Times Square bomber and the underwear dude were foiled by their own "crude" devices.

I am not disagreeing with you. But those are the counterpoints to your post that come mind.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 07:58 PM

5. remember the DC sniper? "everyone" thought he was angry white male.

how well did THAT line of thinking work out? happily waiting
for more evidence before I blame anyone.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:00 PM

7. Perhaps but I would recommend waiting before starting to speculating...

tomorrow maybe but not yet.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:00 PM

8. I would disagree.

I think a "tax terrorist" would have bombed an IRS building, rather than trying to kill his fellow taxpayers.

I think it was someone who knew the town of Boston, to know where the race ended?

I think it was more than one person, probably one for each bomb?

The white smoke and explosion looked similar to an IED explosion we had seen in Iraq.

I don't think it was the "gun nuts". They would not have used bombs - they would have used their beloved automatic weapons.

It's possible it could have some connection to the white militias or the prison gangs, that assassinated the people in TX and CO?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:08 PM

16. good post

point by point

I think a "tax terrorist" would have bombed an IRS building, rather than trying to kill his fellow taxpayers.

me too

I think it was someone who knew the town of Boston, to know where the race ended?

or at least did their research, but you are probably right

I think it was more than one person, probably one for each bomb?

me too

The white smoke and explosion looked similar to an IED explosion we had seen in Iraq.

Which doesn't rule in or out a muslim extremist or a militia type, but does support my gut feeling it is one or the other.

I don't think it was the "gun nuts". They would not have used bombs - they would have used their beloved automatic weapons.

Maybe, but Tim McVeigh comes to mind

It's possible it could have some connection to the white militias or the prison gangs, that assassinated the people in TX and CO?

Long shot, but Aryan Brotherhood is getting bolder and it was a white supremacist group that tried to set off a bomb at a Seattle race

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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:53 PM

26. The murders in Kaufman County, Texas, were not the work of any militia or gang.

They were perpetrated by a disgruntled, disbarred lawyer who had been successfully prosecuted by the murdered DA and investigator.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:02 PM

9. Initial speculation-you bet. Agree.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:04 PM

10. I'll take your bet.

 

And say....not.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:04 PM

11. One alternative:

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:05 PM

12. Stochastic terrorism

A good thing to look up -- someone here reminded me of it today.

BTW, I think you may be right.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:06 PM

13. My guess: lone nut, angry at the world because can no longer "control" a woman

Misogynist asshole with a mean streak.

The usual.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:10 PM

17. That's only the usual IF it's a white RWer......

If it's a Muslim, it's part of the vast, Islamic conspiracy. But I agree that this is what it WILL be played as.

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Response to socialist_n_TN (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:01 PM

29. Exactly!

If its a white American citizen they will be characterized as a lone "nut" with no ties to any known hate group. If its a non-citizen they will be characterized as a member of a terrorist cell attached to a known anti-American hate group.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:07 PM

14. This week is the 18th anniversary of Oklahoma City.

Is 18 a special anniversary?

I like ground zero of the Tea Party.

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Response to WhaTHellsgoingonhere (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:46 PM

25. It's 19 of Waco and 20 for Ruby Ridge.

That twenty is significant, if it's domestic.

I just got a ping from my first cousin, who is a trauma doc at Brigham (and a distance runner, but he didn't make the time trials for the marathon; he's been nursing a blown knee) letting us know he's okay, has been busy and will continue to be busy for the next several hours. His broadcast text says that the incoming smell of cordite, not fertilizer or TNT or plastic explosives.

That reminds me of the Atlanta Olympics and the abortion clinic bombings.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:07 PM

15. We know nothing ... nothing

For all we know, it also could be someone who didn't qualify for the marathon and was pissed about it.

But again, we know nothing ... not even how much the police, FBI, and other agencies know or don't know. And if they do know something, they are not going to tell us. They may even put out disinformation: because that is sometimes necessary to catch the perpetrator.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:21 PM

20. If I were a betting man, I'd take the bet against it being a disgruntled marathoner...

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Response to MNBrewer (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:28 PM

21. Look, my gut feeling is

That this could well be a homegrown terrorist, too. But this is not a parlor game. It could be anyone. We're going entirely on speculations about motive. But we know nothing about the forensic evidence or any other aspect of the investigation. I mentioned the possibility of a disgruntled runner as an example of something we've not even thought of. That's not to say I think that is the answer by any means.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #21)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:30 PM

22. It COULD be anyone.

People are speculating on who or what type of person this might be.

Is it fruitless? Sure.

Is it destructive? I haven't seen anything on DU that is. What I've seen reported out of Freeperville seems like it might be.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:14 PM

18. I can't say with 100% confidence that this was a radical rightie terrorist bombing ......

 

But given the information that I currently have.....

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:34 PM

23. They just mentioned theory on Chris Hayes' program MSNBC eom

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 08:56 PM

28. 10% lone crazy, 50% domestic terrorist, 40% international terrorist

^ My personal guesses on the probability of who did it. We'll see.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:35 PM

30. While the situation is terrible and I feel bad for anyone involved

those who were killed, those who were injured or those who were just there and witnessed it (the psychological trauma can be devastating), I'm hoping it wasn't a foreign terrorists. There are two reasons: (1) we have gone so long without an act of foreign terrorism in the US (2) If it was an act of foreign terrorism it would hit our economy harder, something we don't need. Now, I'm not saying one way or the other because I'm no expert and I have no proof. Most of all I hope they get the person or persons for this and bring them to justice.

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Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2013, 09:42 PM

31. Yet CNN says the police are searching for a dark-skinned or black man.

And currently interviewing a Saudi national, though they are not declaring him a suspect at this time.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/15/us/boston-marathon-explosions/index.html

So yeah, gotta be the white dude....

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