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Sun Apr 14, 2013, 05:32 PM

 

Reproductive freedom and sexual freedom in Amazon tribe

this Zo'e tribe is quite fascinating... no marriage... women have kids with different men, and vice versa. I like how the women use some compound in a special tree bark to regulate their menstrual cycle-- and they don't tell the men what bark it is! They have total reproductive control, apparently.

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Reply Reproductive freedom and sexual freedom in Amazon tribe (Original post)
NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 OP
Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #1
NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #4
Curmudgeoness Apr 2013 #6
NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #9
RainDog Apr 2013 #2
NoMoreWarNow Apr 2013 #5
fredzachmane Apr 2013 #3
niyad Apr 2013 #7
Kath1 Apr 2013 #8

Response to NoMoreWarNow (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 06:53 PM

1. You need a very strong tribal unit for this to work.

It works well for the Zo'e, but it could not translate into our culture---as we see with single mothers who struggle so much to provide for their children.

This just goes to show that their are other cultures who do better than we do.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:06 PM

4. yes... but it seems like we could at least give women control over their bodies

 

like even these people do

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:26 PM

6. We certainly could.

Whose is the enlightened society? Amazing that they don't even think about these issues. It just is what it is.

Think about what you said though---"give women control", instead of we just take control, like it appears the Zo'e women do. If we are waiting for men to give us control, we are truly screwed.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 16, 2013, 07:37 AM

9. good point

 

I didn't mean men should give control but just society... still point taken.

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 07:10 PM

2. I watched that yesterday in the videos section

It is a really interesting look at a culture that has evolved apart from modernity.

they don't have one god - gods are in nature and they respect their territory.

they don't hunt animals during those animals' breeding seasons - this is to their advantage, since they do hunt those animals - but they also keep some as pets if they survive after a hunt.

they do marry, tho. one woman had four husbands and shared a living space with another family of one man and two wives.

the first sex partners of both genders are older than they are - considerably older.

their technology is amazing - the different kinds of bows and arrows, the way they are constructed. they hunt as a group, both males and females (including females with nursing children.) - This is an area in which a lot of people have assumed, erroneously, imo, that females didn't hunt - that males provided and females stayed back at home - not so, as this video shows, for at least some who have kept closer to earlier ways of living.

their work takes place in relaxing ways at home - while lying in hammocks, or while socializing and sewing a hammock. They share - they do something for one person with the knowledge they will also be the recipient at another time.

I wonder how someone decided to make their body mod for the first time and how they decided their decoration was so lovely. It looks like it would be uncomfortable.

Men dress up as women to honor the births of their children.

really interesting vid.

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Response to RainDog (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 09:07 PM

5. indeed

 

they seem primitive on the surface, but know a lot of very clever stuff

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 07:30 PM

3. I like wearing pants

 

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:20 PM

7. k and r--bookmarking to watch later. thank you

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:35 PM

8. Thank you!

They may be "primitive" in the eyes of many but they are way ahead of this society on this issue.

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