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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:17 PM

Who actually came up with the "chained CPI"?

Is this something Obama came up with on his own or did Republicans ask for it and he is just giving them what they want? I haven't heard a single Republican ask for this to happen but then I don't watch regular news shows.. From what I have been reading lately, Republicans are acting as if they are upset over this and going to the airwaves to blast Obama for selling out the elderly....

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Reply Who actually came up with the "chained CPI"? (Original post)
Bandit Apr 2013 OP
dawg Apr 2013 #1
AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #2
woo me with science Apr 2013 #3
reformist2 Apr 2013 #8
woo me with science Apr 2013 #4
kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #5
woo me with science Apr 2013 #6
woo me with science Apr 2013 #7

Response to Bandit (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:18 PM

1. Probably hatched in the bowels of the Heritage Foundation.

That would be my guess. Obama did not originate the idea.

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Response to Bandit (Original post)

Wed Apr 10, 2013, 06:20 PM

2. Though it's more likely to backfire on them than us, TBH.

Obama's always been real good at rope-a-dope type stuff.

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Wed Apr 10, 2013, 08:55 PM

3. "Guess what? Chained CPI is the bright idea of Third Way, the Dem "policy shop.'"

"Guess what? Chained CPI is the bright idea of Third Way, the Dem "policy shop.'"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2489745

The Third way folks are the real "professional left"...er...one percent posing as left.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022644983#post155

I showed that Third Way makes itself useful by providing a faux “liberal” or “moderate” “Democratic” quote machine that can be used to discredit Democrats and Democratic policies such as the safety net. I gave examples of how Third Way gave aid and comfort to the effort to defeat Elizabeth Warren and the effort to unravel the safety net. Third Way continues to prove that you can fool some of the people all of the time.
http://neweconomicperspectives.org/2012/11/wall-street-uses-the-third-way-to-lead-its-assault-on-social-security.html#more-3690

A bunch of Wall St financiers posing as a "liberal think tank"



Corporate wolves in Democrat suits.

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Response to woo me with science (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:57 PM

8. I'd love it if Anonymous could expose their internal e-mails, laughing about their own cruelty.

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Response to Bandit (Original post)

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 12:40 AM

4. kick

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Response to Bandit (Original post)

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 01:20 AM

5. Imagine Newt Gingrich and Alan Greenspan humping each other

if they could have a baby, it would look like the Chain CPI.

http://www.angrybearblog.com/2013/04/three-guess-on-where-chaining-cpi-came.html

Using Mr. Peabody's WABAC machine we set the dial for 1995. Ever heard of the Boskin Commission? Its formal name: "Advisory Commission to Study the Consumer Price Index". It was created on the order of the Senate Finance Committee. The Senate majority leader then was: Bob Dole followed by Trent Lott. William V Roth Jr. was the chair of the committee.

This was the time of Newt Gingrich and the “Contract with America”. The contract included social security reform. It also included welfare reform. (Clinton gave them that part of the contract.) Both were under the Fiscal Responsibility Act. You know, balance the budget rhetoric. Specifically: An amendment to the Constitution that would require a balanced budget unless sanctioned by a three-fifths vote in both houses of Congress...

With that (background on Michael Boskin) here is some history by way of Fredrick Sheehan by way of The Big Picture blog:

In the early 1990s, Senator Patrick Moynihan from New York warned his fellow legislators about rising social security commitments. Then the worm crawled out of his hole, so to speak. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan testified before the Senate and House Budget Committee on January 10, 1995. He told the Committee the inflation rate was probably overestimated by 0.5% to 1.5%.

You really have to read the whole thing, as four paragraph excerpts can't begin to cover the terrain. Greenspan -who was thought of as a almighty but beneficent wizard at the time, instead of the charlatan who wrecked our economy- made his unsupported pronouncement about the calculation of inflation, and Republicans under the Gingrich-Dole appointed a Commission to "look into this" composed entirely of ideologues who had already made up their minds to attack entitlements, and who looked at only evidence supporting the Greenspan assertion that inflation was overstated and ignored all evidence that it was not. This Boskin Commission, which was named after the aforementioned Michael Boskin who made a raft of dire predictions about Clinton's tax increases all of which failed to come true, gave unto the villagers of Washington the neutral sounding axe with which to cut Social Security, called the Chained CPI. And it has been haunting the Potomac ever since.

But beware, for the Chained CPI if used to reduce Social Security cost of living adjustments it may also soon be used just as easily to reduce exemptions on income taxes as well. And so it presents the danger of a stealth income tax increase on the middle class in the here and now as well as representing a short changing of future seniors on their retirement. You can see how this kind of accounting chicanery would appeal to knaves of both parties.

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 08:49 AM

6. kick

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Thu Apr 11, 2013, 10:55 PM

7. kick

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