Flag Burning Dirty Hippies!!!

[unionworks]

The "Flag Burning Dirty Hippie" meme worked against the Vietnam era anti-war movement! It HAS to work against the Occupy movement! Get busy! Why isn't the posed photo of the dirty hippie flag burners being plastered full front page on every newspaper and cable news network we own? What do you mean, Obama changed things and it isn't as easy anymore? I want my white president back! Waaaaahhh!

[hobbit709]

1. I've never burned a flag. I did blow one up once but that was an accident.

[TheMastersNemesis]

2. Set Up

That was a set up. The GOP has literally burned the flag. They have exploited it and commandeered it. If they win in November we will see a vicious fascism like nothing that you can imagine.

[downwardly_mobile]

3. Unfortunately, it DID work against the Vietnam era anti-war movement --

Sure, the Vietnam war was eventually ended -- by Richard Nixon, who beat Humphrey in '68 very much in part because of proto-Owser antics at the Chicago convention.

And then Nixon went on to whomp McGovern in '72, and again, the FBDH factor was a big part of that blowout.

[Capitalocracy]

7. Damn those proto-Owser antics...

like getting the crap kicked out of them by police during a peaceful protest...

[unionworks]

9. But then....

Thanks to glorious providence, one of Nixons henchmen left a door open at the Watergate Hotel, leading to months of televised hearings describing in painful detail the criminal activities of Nixons administration, leading to his resignation and a general awareness among the public that Republicans are lying thieving bastards not to be trusted with power. We turned into a nation of pot smoking, bell bottom wearing, Boones Apple Farm drinking, Beatles listening frisbee players. Until Reagan and friends came along, corporotized all the independant media outlets to disseminate propoganda, broke the unions, wasted billions on developing piss testing and reinstituted fascism. But that's OK, we are fixing that now.

[sudopod]

19. I like how noobs can praise Nixon here now without catching flack.

That's superawesome. :/

[unionworks]

24. they caught it

...from me and you!

[sudopod]

26. ^_^ nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. Perhaps you are a friend of the Nixon fan I met in 2002 in Hawaii?

Yup, Nixon was like awesome and the best thing like evah!!! Granted, compared to modern day republicans he'd join us at the OWS camp.

By the way, here s a hint, there was a riot in Chicago, it was a POLICE RIOT. There was also a revolt over the top down decisions of the party, but I am very sure you knew this.

[backscatter712]

4. I really like that quote from Arundhati Roy...

"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people’s minds & then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead."

Maybe people are more wise to the flag-waving bullshit. And less apt to lose their shit when a troll burns a piece of cloth.

[unionworks]

5. Nail meet hammer n/t

[HappyMe]

6. To me calling the ows 'dirty hippies' is

ridiculous. It's insulting the the original, real dirty hippies. Whom, by the way, are now part of the generation (boomers) that is told now to shut up and get out of the way.


edited to add -- What was accomplished by burning that flag and the other vandalism? Nothing. They just looked like mindless, pointless rioters.

[Capitalocracy]

8. No one's telling anyone to "shut up and get out of the way".

If anything, they're saying "Join us."

You sound like your parents.

[HappyMe]

10. My parents are dead.

My parents were honest, hard working people. THey raised me to be respectful, honest & hard working. They raised me not to be a racist, but also to not take any crap from anyone. So, in saying that I sound like my parents, thank you. Quite a nice compliment.

There have been plenty of posts dissing boomers.

Join you? And do what exactly? Sit around in a park all day?

There are far more productive ways to make change come about.

[unionworks]

13. Very sorry

.....about your parents. Mine are gone too. And if your own way of working for change is best suited for you, no one should criticise that. Please try to see that your way may not be the best way for everyone, just as others should respect your choices.

[HangOnKids]

18. Sit around in a park all day?

Why what an enlightened thing to say! Sounds very FOXish.

[nadinbrzezinski]

35. Another big hint, most occupiers are not 24/7/365

But I am sur you hav read his here before.

[unionworks]

11. I saw a differennt video than you did

In the one I saw, OPD kettled peaceful protesters up against barriiers and then ordered them to disperse. The only way left for the protesters to go was to knock over the barriers to escape, andd when they did so, OPD STARTED ARRESTING THEM, BEATING THE SHIT OUT OF THEM, GASSING THEM AND SHOOTING THEM WITH RUBBER BULLETS. I take into account this brutality that occured before any of the vandalism took place.

[HappyMe]

12. Yeah, yeah.

The poor sainted protestors never do anything to provoke anybody. Fuck, I can see their halos from here!

[HangOnKids]

14. WTF?

Wanting some understanding but showing none. Who said the protesters were saints? Why, you did. No need to reply dear. It has only taken me a month to see who I do not wish to share with. Bye,

[HappyMe]

16. Thank you, dearie.

Buh bye!

[unionworks]

15. I'll talk to ya

...when you're feeling better!

[raouldukelives]

27. Not to mention while this was happening with 100's of cops around

the peaceful protesters. The antics at City Hall were taking place at the same time a mile away with apparently no cops bothering to defend it or any internal security guards to be seen. Lots of cameras though.

[backscatter712]

20. Or the morans who keep hollering "GIT A JOB!"

They truly don't realize that their material is at least 40 years stale.

[HappyMe]

23. Easy enough to ignore morans yelling 'git a job'.

Time is better spent working to get new Dems elected, pick apart the repubs.

edited to clarify

[Bluenorthwest]

28. Many, many of the people arrested at Occupy Portland actions were in fact in their 50's

and 60's. They were on the front lines now, just as they were then. Where were you? Occupy has a world wide reach, and here you are wailing at one thing a handful of protesters did on a night when more than 400 of your fellow Americans were arrested and only 12 charged with any infraction of any sort. This means most of the arrests were of innocent people, hundreds of them. And your concern is for a flag meant to represent those hundreds and the rest of us as well?

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. You realize how many boomers are part of OWS?

In fact, everybody s welcomed, including a real hippie...no serious, a young woman (well in her fifties) that never left the sixties. Her stories are amazing.

[sudopod]

17. Positively Rovian, isn't it?

All you have to do is repeatedly mention "OWS" and "flag-burning" in the same sentence, and the masses will associate the two.

How many people still believe Iraq was behind 9/11?

[HappyMe]

21. You would have to ask at FR.

I do think they are the only ones that believe that.

[sudopod]

25. Clearly, you live in a more enlightened place than me.

From 2003, citing 71% belief in the Iraq-9/11 connection:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-09-06-poll-iraq_x.htm

From 2007, citing 41%:

http://atlanticreview.org/archives/726-More-Americans-Believe-that-Saddam-Was-Directly-Involved-in-911.html

They made it stick throughout W's presidency, which was enough for them to accomplish their goals. It isn't surprising that they'd continue to employ the same successful tactic. Such spurious correlations seem to exploit a fundamental vulnerability in the human mind.

[unionworks]

22. Poor Karl

...just doesn't have the power he did when the fundy cowboy ran the show. He just recently got mike checked and booed off the stage at a college... he had an absolute control head freakout as this was happening... (it was beautiful)

[unionworks]

29. Charlie Daniels Hates Dirty Hippies

He wrote a book called "I Hate Dirty Flag Burning Hippies" or something that was popular with redneck assholes. Of course, when hippies were popular, he wrote hippie exploitation songs such as "Uneasy Rider" and "Dong Haired Country Boy". If Occupy keeps gaining in popularity, we will hear Charlie singing "I'm 99% Country and 1% Redneck Asshole", or something

[sudopod]

31. Ever been to his "museum" in Nashville?

Went there with my parents a few months ago. I was embarrassed for humanity...and that's just due to the gift shop.

[unionworks]

32. never been to Nashville

But I can imagine what horrors await in the CD dungeon! Sadly, there was a time when many of us believed his songs, back before he showed his true colors.

[unionworks]

30. "Dirty Flag Burnin' Hippie Boy"

"Palin says I'm no good
And crazy as a loon
Cause I get clubbed in the mornin'
I get gassed in the afternoon
But I ain't askin' the 1% for nuthin'
That the 99% can't get own our own
If you ddon't like the way I protest,
You just leave this Occupier alone"