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Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:19 PM

ted olsen - wow

"We don't prescribe law for the future," Scalia said. "We decide what the law is. I'm curious, when did it become unconstitutional to exclude homosexual couples from marriage? 1791? 1868? When the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted?"

Olson countered that with a question of his own, bringing up two past high-profile cases involving discrimination.

"When did it become unconstitutional to prohibit interracial marriages? When did it become unconstitutional to assign children to separate schools?" Olson asked.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/scalia-gay-marriage-prop-8-case-supreme-court-2013-3#ixzz2OhNdRquX

Olsen is doing well in this case. It is weird, he is quite the right winger, but gives it all for his client.

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Reply ted olsen - wow (Original post)
arely staircase Mar 2013 OP
applegrove Mar 2013 #1
tblue Mar 2013 #2
applegrove Mar 2013 #3
On the Road Mar 2013 #9
jaysunb Mar 2013 #5
Bryn Mar 2013 #7
devilgrrl Mar 2013 #10
arely staircase Mar 2013 #12
RudynJack Mar 2013 #4
arely staircase Mar 2013 #13
irisblue Mar 2013 #6
longship Mar 2013 #8
PDittie Mar 2013 #11
arely staircase Mar 2013 #14

Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:21 PM

1. You have to wonder if he didn't reconnect to humanity in a new way after he lost his

wife on 9/11.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:27 PM

2. I know someone who is related to him.

And he says Olson is a REAL right winger. He's just libertarian on this issue. He has not changed his stance on anything else, per this person (related to his current wife or former wife, I forget. Olson's been married more than once). So, he's doing what appears to be something very honorable, and deserves kudos for doing it and doing it well, but he's NOT a liberal by any stretch.

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Response to tblue (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:36 PM

3. That's too bad. I remain pollyannaish that some on the far right will 'grow' out of it. I'm

often let down.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 12:27 AM

9. Actually, I Think It's Really *Good*

that someone who remains a right-winger would maintain that particular argument very publicly in front of the Supreme Court,.

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Response to tblue (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:45 PM

5. I'm glad he's NOT a liberal...

that would only feed the need of the hateful.

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Response to tblue (Reply #2)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:48 PM

7. I think it's a good thing that Olson is a right winger

because it helps to make Scalia and Thomas listen to him. If he were a liberal their mind would just shut down...

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:05 PM

12. yeah, and there is that odd twist to his life's story

eom

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:38 PM

4. I don't think he's just a hired gun on this.

I think he sincerely believes in the cause.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:07 PM

13. one hopes

but even if it is purely mercenary he's doing some damn good lawyering.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 09:45 PM

6. he argued Gore v. Bush

maybe he's trying to improve his karmic debt.

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Response to arely staircase (Original post)

Tue Mar 26, 2013, 10:04 PM

8. His wife, Barbara Olson was a Fox and CNN regular in 2001.

Then she died on 9/11 in the plane that hit the Pentagon. Ted and Barbara apparently talked via cell phone as the airliner proceeded to its inevitable destination.

I think that this may have changed Ted Olson in a profound way which nobody but him can understand.

I remember him in that horrible 2000 election aftermath. I remember her, too. Both were mealy mouth ideologues spewing pure rubbish. It was them, more than any others, that convinced me that the Republican Party had become an utterly corrupt criminal enterprise, totally without any ethical standards.

I think 9/11 may have changed Ted Olson. Events such as he experienced have a tendency to do that. I can only hope so.

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Response to longship (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 08:53 AM

11. He's still an idealogue

But he is not mealy-mouthed. Or mush-brained.

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Response to PDittie (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 27, 2013, 05:10 PM

14. yeah, he seems to be one of the rare smart ones

and favoring gay marriage isn't inconsistent with the some of the more libertarian leaning rwers

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