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Thu Mar 7, 2013, 07:51 PM

Ignorant people are really starting to bum me out.

I have this bumper sticker on my car:



Some guy approached me about it in the parking lot of a market and asked me who was going to pay for it. I said everyone would and everyone would benefit. He said it would break the nation. I told him that was nonsense. He said he was eighty years old and from east Germany and he knew how awful it was. I said if he was eighty years old he is already using Medicare and everyone should have it. I asked him when he came from Germany. He said in 1952. I told him he should look what Germany is doing with health care today. He says he knows because the government isn't involved. Again I said that's nonsense. They have a system that is non-profit and run under government guidelines. He then walked away from me shaking his hand at me.

I shouted at him that if Medicare wasn't paying for his medical expenses that he probably couldn't afford the Mercedes he was driving but he wouldn't talk to me anymore. I was ready to go the distance with him to wear him down with facts, but this is what is wrong with old people today, they would rather listen to Hannity, and the rest of the distributors of disinformation than hear the truth.

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Reply Ignorant people are really starting to bum me out. (Original post)
Cleita Mar 2013 OP
GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #1
Cleita Mar 2013 #2
GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #3
Cleita Mar 2013 #4
airplaneman Mar 2013 #26
BadgerKid Mar 2013 #55
GoCubsGo Mar 2013 #58
October Mar 2013 #18
John2 Mar 2013 #5
Cleita Mar 2013 #6
Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #7
Cleita Mar 2013 #10
Egalitarian Thug Mar 2013 #44
DirkGently Mar 2013 #8
Cleita Mar 2013 #9
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October Mar 2013 #19
Cleita Mar 2013 #20
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #34
OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #11
Cleita Mar 2013 #13
OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #14
Cleita Mar 2013 #15
Samantha Mar 2013 #49
LiberalElite Mar 2013 #16
Cleita Mar 2013 #17
PatrynXX Mar 2013 #27
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #40
Cleita Mar 2013 #41
xtraxritical Mar 2013 #48
Cleita Mar 2013 #52
Samantha Mar 2013 #51
watoos Mar 2013 #21
Cleita Mar 2013 #22
Zax2me Mar 2013 #23
BobbyBoring Mar 2013 #24
Cleita Mar 2013 #25
Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #28
juajen Mar 2013 #29
Cleita Mar 2013 #32
abelenkpe Mar 2013 #30
Cleita Mar 2013 #31
Poll_Blind Mar 2013 #33
Phlem Mar 2013 #35
Cleita Mar 2013 #38
Phlem Mar 2013 #53
Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #36
Cleita Mar 2013 #37
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Zorra Mar 2013 #42
Cleita Mar 2013 #43
Kath1 Mar 2013 #45
Cleita Mar 2013 #46
colsohlibgal Mar 2013 #47
Cleita Mar 2013 #59
Knightraven Mar 2013 #50
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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 07:59 PM

1. My craphole town is full of people like him.

There was one who had a bumper sticker that said "Poverty is owning a horse." She was driving a BMW. These assholes wouldn't know poverty, Socialism, government-run healthcare, etc., if it jumped up and bit them in the ass. I am sick of them, too.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:05 PM

2. How do we deprogram them?

Honestly, the propaganda has really made a bunch of tea bagging zombies out of the majority of them.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:08 PM

3. I don't know that we can.

Perhaps the techniques used to deprogram cult members would work. They ARE cult members, after all.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:09 PM

4. They are. This is really a problem.

I can't believe some of the crap I overhear when I'm at the gym. It's alarming.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:51 PM

26. Its mindset and paradigms which are fundamental to their perception of reality.

The only way is to outnumber and outvote them. Maybe over time the mindset will change but not if they gain ground politically. Its a serious battle. We can never give up.
-Airplane

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:52 AM

55. Isn't starting them early all part of the method?

No exposure to critical thinking: Do what you are told because I said so.

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Response to BadgerKid (Reply #55)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:52 AM

58. Yep.

And, fortunately, it seems that most younger people these days aren't buying the right-wing bullshit. But, I don't think that the old ones to which Cleita refers can be convinced that all the crap they have been fed is just crap. the vast majority of them are too far gone.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:32 PM

18. That's the perfect term: zombies

They are either incapable of THINKING, or unwilling. Facts mean nothing to them. Gibberish Foxspeak is the only language they understand. I honestly don't know if it's possible to turn them into non-angry normal people. They cannot function without an enemy. Even when they had Congress, the President, and the Judicial branch, they were angrier than ever. It's all they have. Anger.

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Response to Cleita (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:29 PM

5. So he was

 

of military age during Nazi Germany if he is really 80 years old and came here in 1952.

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