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Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:51 PM

Rand Paul will FAIL, and America will WIN!

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I like John Brennan. It takes a tough man to refuse to call waterboarding torture when so many on the Moonbat Left are whining about "human rights" and other impractical crap.

That's why I'm so upset that Rand Paul is filibustering this humble and decent man, on the pretense that executing Americans any time and any place is NOT the President's perogative.

Last time I checked, a President who can kill at will with zero accountability was a hallmark of the individual freedoms we cherish so dearly. Only by giving up our civil liberties can we have our civil liberties, of course. As every child learns in school:

War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.


Even worse, some so-called Democrats *agree* with Paul on this! Agreeing with a crazy Republican on anything, ever, is betrayal! These traitors are nothing but Rand Paul enablers, they disgust me. Just like those so-called Democrats who agreed with Paul's father that we shouldn't invade Iraq. Disgusting, all of them. I happen to know many elected Democrats who voted to attack Saddam JUST because the elder Paul was against it. All Democrats should learn from their courageous commitment.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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Reply Rand Paul will FAIL, and America will WIN! (Original post)
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 OP
Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #1
BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #15
still_one Mar 2013 #31
BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #61
rhett o rick Mar 2013 #73
demwing Mar 2013 #85
BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #104
demwing Mar 2013 #106
pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #95
BlueCaliDem Mar 2013 #105
rhett o rick Mar 2013 #70
WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #71
frylock Mar 2013 #23
Bonobo Mar 2013 #30
fascisthunter Mar 2013 #40
TommyCelt Mar 2013 #65
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #91
leftstreet Mar 2013 #2
denem Mar 2013 #58
ProSense Mar 2013 #3
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #12
rpannier Mar 2013 #21
ProSense Mar 2013 #22
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #33
ProSense Mar 2013 #34
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #57
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #92
golfguru Mar 2013 #102
Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2013 #96
babylonsister Mar 2013 #48
99Forever Mar 2013 #4
annabanana Mar 2013 #5
n2doc Mar 2013 #6
Malik Agar Mar 2013 #16
limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #17
n2doc Mar 2013 #19
uppityperson Mar 2013 #20
cyberswede Mar 2013 #36
roxy1234 Mar 2013 #37
JVS Mar 2013 #25
OnyxCollie Mar 2013 #60
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #97
SidDithers Mar 2013 #7
ananda Mar 2013 #28
limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #8
cali Mar 2013 #9
msongs Mar 2013 #10
Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #11
Bonobo Mar 2013 #32
jazzimov Mar 2013 #45
Cali_Democrat Mar 2013 #13
jsr Mar 2013 #14
shaayecanaan Mar 2013 #18
Jennicut Mar 2013 #24
Vanje Mar 2013 #26
rhett o rick Mar 2013 #76
cthulu2016 Mar 2013 #27
WillyT Mar 2013 #29
forestpath Mar 2013 #35
Onlooker Mar 2013 #38
TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #46
proverbialwisdom Mar 2013 #68
TheKentuckian Mar 2013 #99
roxy1234 Mar 2013 #39
fascisthunter Mar 2013 #43
fascisthunter Mar 2013 #41
Autumn Mar 2013 #42
KoKo Mar 2013 #44
jazzimov Mar 2013 #47
ljm2002 Mar 2013 #100
DonCoquixote Mar 2013 #49
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #98
colbertforpresident Mar 2013 #50
blackspade Mar 2013 #51
Safetykitten Mar 2013 #52
truth2power Mar 2013 #53
woo me with science Mar 2013 #54
woo me with science Mar 2013 #55
Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #56
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Autumn Mar 2013 #64
Scuba Mar 2013 #63
olddots Mar 2013 #66
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WilliamPitt Mar 2013 #72
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MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #80
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lunasun Mar 2013 #79
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MisterP Mar 2013 #84
demwing Mar 2013 #86
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #87
warrprayer Mar 2013 #88
MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #89
warrprayer Mar 2013 #90
nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #93
ProSense Mar 2013 #103
pmorlan1 Mar 2013 #94
Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #101

Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:52 PM

1. Go kiss Rand Paul's ass on a "FREEDOM AND LIBERTY" forum and spare us your "strength." nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:31 PM

15. + 1000

I'm tired of the Libertarians infiltrating DU. Don't they have a forum of their own to spew their gall?

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:12 PM

31. Actually manny is a pretty true liberal. The post is obvious

Scarcasm

It is a fair subject to debate

I believe the patriot act and fisa courts might allow such a thing without due process

A little surprised this ha not been brought before the supreme court

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Response to still_one (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:43 PM

61. Not how I see him.

I believe Manny is a Leftist, which is only partly liberal. Leftists voted, en masse, for the likes of Gary Johnson and Jill-whatever-her-name is. This would have resulted in a win for Mittney, and it would NOT have rang in Liberal policies. In fact, a Mittney presidency would have undone everything President Obama has been able to get through.

I've read his posts, too. And by the way, Manny's been around long enough to know how to access the icon, and it's missing from his post. I can only conclude that he knows some people will see his post as and defend him while he actually meant every word. Clever strategy.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:07 PM

85. Thanks BlueCaliDem, for defining what a Liberal is

apparently, it all boils down to whether a person needs pictures to identify sarcasm.

Those who don't are clever, leftist strategists, plotting to undermine Obama. Those who do are as thick as a brick, but politically pure.

Well done.

No, there is no sarcasm tag here...

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Response to demwing (Reply #85)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:15 AM

104. Thanks Demwing for defining what a

bullshit, kneejerk response is by presenting one as an example.

And no, there is no sarcasm here, either.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #104)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:04 AM

106. You're Welcome!

I'm all about adding value to your day

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #61)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:34 PM

95. lol

I think on this one you can safely conclude it's sarcasm.

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Response to pmorlan1 (Reply #95)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 04:15 AM

105. Yeah.

Sure you would.

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Response to still_one (Reply #31)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:50 PM

70. We dont want them brought before THIS kangaroo excuse of a court. Move to impeach Scalia. nm

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:51 PM

71. *sigh*

Once again, good satire falls flat on DU.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:59 PM

23. why not embrace republicans if we're so willing to embrace their policies?

don't hate the player, hate the game!

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Response to frylock (Reply #23)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:11 PM

30. Dude, obviously that person thinks they look better in blue rather than red.

Gotta keep your priorities straight.

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Response to frylock (Reply #23)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:39 PM

40. well said!

sanity

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:55 PM

65. DU=Preaching to the choir <nm>

And you guys call religious folks "sheeple"...

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:05 PM

91. Obvious the sarcasm was missed

And this must have hit a nerve

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:55 PM

2. Where do we apply for an increase in Chocolate Rations?

DURec

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:51 AM

58. A vote down the memory hole is in order ...

The 'Democrat' vote fell from 48% to 51%.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:57 PM

3. "Wyden said he was satisfied with Attorney General Eric Holderís response to Paulís question"

At the same time, Wyden said he was satisfied with Attorney General Eric Holderís response to Paulís question about drone strikes on American soil.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/03/06/democratic-sen-ron-wyden-joins-rand-pauls-filibuster/


Rand Paul: I Donít Think Obama Will Kill Americans

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), filibustering John Brennan's nomination to lead the CIA on Wednesday in objection to the Obama administration's policy on targeted drone killing, ceded that President Obama personally was not the issue.

"I frankly don't think he'll be killing people in their homes tonight," Paul said.

At stake, Paul explained, was the prospect of unchecked power afforded to the executive branch if clear rules governing lethal force within the United States are not established.

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/rand-paul-i-dont-think-obama-will-kill


"Rand Paul will FAIL, and America will WIN!"

Because he cares so much for Americans...

Making hundreds of thousands hungry or homeless: 'Brutal' or 'a pittance'?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022457325





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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:24 PM

12. Exactly! nt

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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:53 PM

21. And your link about Paul and the hungry has nothing to do with his post

On this issue Paul is right. The explanation, "I haven't killed anyone yet." is hardly an acceptable answer. I've never blown anyone up with a thermonuclear device so by the logic given to Paul, I should be allowed to have them.
The more important aspect of his question is for later administrations. Are we willing to give this President, or any President the opportunity to use this against Americans? The answer is no. That should have been the President's answer.

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Response to rpannier (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:56 PM

22. Actually,

"On this issue Paul is right. "

...Rand Paul is full of shit: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022469873

Still, I understand how he dazzles with his bullshit straw men and demagoguery.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #22)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:13 PM

33. You bet! Pot smokers?

Lock their Aqua-Buddha asses up. Especially the medical marijuana crowd.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:22 PM

34. What next

"Lock their Aqua-Buddha asses up. Especially the medical marijuana crowd."

...Paul 2016?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022470090

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Response to ProSense (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 09:23 AM

57. Right on!

Anyone who agrees with anything that Paul says must want Paul for President.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #57)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:07 PM

92. She told me yesterday I am, and should move to KY



My party right or wrong really gets old, we both n know that

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #92)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 01:51 AM

102. +10

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Response to ProSense (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 07:30 PM

96. Talk about your straw man.

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Response to ProSense (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:16 PM

48. I'm glad Wyden is there. We do need clarification.

He's on Rachel now, so it's becoming clearer to me. And Thanks, ProSense, for posting links and clarity when I so miss it sometimes!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:58 PM

4. I see what you did there!




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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 06:58 PM

5. sad little kick. . .n/t

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:10 PM

6. Republicans are always wrong and Obama is always right

That's the story I'm sticking too...makes life simple.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:31 PM

16. What if

 

republicans agree with Obama?

MIND = BLOWN

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Response to Malik Agar (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:32 PM

17. LOL That happens alot. nt

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Response to Malik Agar (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:44 PM

19. Does not compute

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Response to Malik Agar (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:45 PM

20. When has that happened?

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Response to Malik Agar (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:31 PM

36. Even if they agree...they have to say they don't, to appease their base...

and who cares if it fucks over US citizens? Republicans are craven assholes.

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Response to cyberswede (Reply #36)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:35 PM

37. LMAO

 

Repeal them. Awesome

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Response to n2doc (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:03 PM

25. Yeah, but you're being facetious.

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Response to n2doc (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:55 AM

60. Nuance is scary.

Black & white dichotomies are good.

"Joe, I don't do nuance." --George W. Bush to Sen. Joseph Biden, as quoted in Time, Feb. 15, 2004

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Response to n2doc (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:20 PM

97. Noooo....

Republicans are indeed always wrong, but President Obama is only right when he disagrees with them. He is never right when and if he agrees with them. They are never right unless they agree with him/us.

See how that works? Simple.

You're welcome.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:11 PM

7. Third Party Manny strikes again...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:09 PM

28. Biffboompah!

Woot!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:12 PM

8. Oh crap a filibuster? Good. I'm glad somebody is doing it. Democrats should join and block Brennan.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:12 PM

9. You need a new routine.

You're writing the same post over and over and over again.

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:14 PM

10. and likely will continue to do so until the reason for doing so stops.... nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #10)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:24 PM

11. The purpose of playing is and was to hold the mirror, as 'twere, up to nature.

nt

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:12 PM

32. Nah, you don't fuck with the classics. I say keep it.

Do you say that the Marx Brothers needs a new routine?

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Response to cali (Reply #9)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:00 PM

45. His attempt at "satire" would be more effective

if there were a ring of truth to it. Or, at least, if there was some real "satire" there.

So, I agree with you - he REALLY needs to get a new act!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:27 PM

13. LOL

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:29 PM

14. By George (W), you've got it!

Finally.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 07:35 PM

18. And who are you to argue with the Nobel Peace Prize Committee?

I tell all my children that if they act good and eat all their greens, then one day they too can sit in front on a joystick in Maryland and kill Afghans at a wedding party, just like Obama does.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:01 PM

24. The Pauls are libertarian leaning Republicans.

This is not any surprise. They are usually somewhat reasonable on issues of foreign policy. It's the domestic issues that they are scary on. They pretty much want to spend money on nothing. Zilch. Most liberals understand this about libertarians. Libertarians suck, just not as badly as conservatives. At least they want to let you smoke marijuana.

Liberals and libertarians may agree on some things. This is not a newsflash.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:05 PM

26. I love you, MannyGoldstein

That is all.

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Response to Vanje (Reply #26)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:20 PM

76. Which Manny do you love, if I may be so bold? nm

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:08 PM

27. Jim agrees with Rand Paul about something. Rand Paul is a white supremacist.

Thus Jim is a white supremacist.

If DU has taught me anything, it is the awesome power of the invalid syllogism.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:10 PM

29. LOL !!! - Perfect !!! - K & R !!!






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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:24 PM

35. Waterboarding is a kinder, gentler form of torture under Obama!!!!1!1

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:37 PM

38. Paul is a racist pinhead.

Holder says that an extraordinary situation, such as a Pearl Harbor or 9/11 could require the use of a drone strike. I suppose that's true. After all, Bush shut down all air transport immediately after 9/11, and I believe I read was prepared to shoot down a plane with American citizens if necessary. In a bizarre situation, the President can do what it takes to protect the nation. If terrorists took over a passenger plane and were flying it into a nuclear power plant, would we deny the president the right to take drastic action? Of course not. If the president used drone strikes willy-nilly against Americans at home, I have no doubt he would face severe consequences.

But, what can one expect from a racist pinhead like Paul, other than posturing and grandstanding to try to get some attention?

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Response to Onlooker (Reply #38)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:02 PM

46. No one needs to codify a situation like you outline, it is a super rare and highly isolated scenario

No need to hedge or write any memos or any such thing after almost 250 years.

There is a program in play, with a whole lot broader net than anybody is wanting to fess to.

It seems most prudent with civil liberties to say no never and deal with a truly exceptional situation with pardons.
That is part of what it is there for, to deal with situations beyond the law and system. You don't build a major framework for actual near never exceptions.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #46)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:11 PM

68. Terrific points, thanks!

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Response to proverbialwisdom (Reply #68)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 10:07 PM

99. Of course

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:38 PM

39. For second I thought some idiot

 

had invaded DU then I realized it was Manny third way on the keyboard. Well played

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Response to roxy1234 (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:40 PM

43. ooops, got me

well played, well played indeed.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:40 PM

41. ha ha ha.... well done!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 08:40 PM

42. Just when I think you can't top that. You top it.

K/R

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:00 PM

44. Hey...good to see ya' back 3rd Way Manny! Ain't that Rand Paul

setting himself up to take that BIG TUMBLE. John Brennan RULES!

What kind of little Pissant like Rand Paul could think his blathering Fake Filibuster with that idiot Democrat Ron Wyden (that no one likes) could bring down a MACHO MAN guy like Brennan who likes to Kill so much that it bleeds out of him like the sweat on his brow during those hearings.

Stupid F**kers... Grandstanding Idiots!

Thanks for the TRUTH...3rd Way! You know how it ROLLS!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:08 PM

47. Why do I always get the impression

that you are attacking the WRONG party?

No, the Democratic Party is not "perfect", no party ever will be. But your constant denigration of them makes me suspect of your own motives.

Perhaps your "followers" should start your own Party, since you seem so unwilling to "compromise".

Meanwhile, please remember that the name of this site is Democratic Underground. And, if you actually bother to read the Terms of Service, we support the DEMOCRATIC Party.

It's ok to criticize the DEM Party here, but if you are looking for converts to a different party - you need to go somewhere else.

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Response to jazzimov (Reply #47)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:43 AM

100. You've been here 3 whole months...

...and yet you feel free to lecture 3rd Way Manny on what we are allowed to post here on DU???

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:32 PM

49. I am a true libertarian hater

And I have no illusions abotu Rand's motives. Not only does he want to leapfrog ahead of Rubio, he wants to appeals to the same mouth breathing, Tea Party Scum that got him in.

Now, that still does not mean that he cannot be the proverbial busted clock that is right twice a day. In this case, Obama has let the clock run to midnight, because we cannot let the sort of crap brennan did stay in play, even if...yes ESPECIALLY if a president Hillary or Joe is in, because the pressure will be there to be tough on terrorism as a means of being a leftist (in other words, to throw red meat to the AIPAC and MIC types.)

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Response to DonCoquixote (Reply #49)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 08:27 PM

98. Libertarians

... as I love to repeat, are nothing more than sociopathic anarchists dressed in evening clothes. Talk about 'NewSpeak'!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 09:47 PM

50. Paul May Be A Racist Pinhead

But he is right on this issue. Are we nothing more than just anti republicans here at DU?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:00 PM

51. Paul is a horror as a senator....

But on this he is not wrong.
The sun smiles on a dog's ass occasionally.

Indefinite detentions, drone strikes, NDAA.
All of these things are happening under a Democratic president.
That is a terrible precedent.
What in the world will happen if a rethug gets elected?

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:15 PM

52. Huzzah for our side! I salute our telescreen of truth!

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 10:20 PM

53. Thank you, Manny, for having the courage to speak out when you see a WRONG being committed...

Some things are just wrong, and one doesn't make exceptions if it happens to be one's friend who is the perpetrator.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Wed Mar 6, 2013, 11:01 PM

54. Doubleplusgood!

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K&R

Thank you, Manny.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:45 AM

56. nicely done :)

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 11:03 AM

59. Waterboarding? It's just a little water in the face, what's the big deal?





(:sarcasm

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:48 PM

62. Same old game

Kill the messenger. Luckily for those who don't want the discomfort of the president being challenged, the messenger is an asshat POS. So fuck Rand Paul, and let the missiles fly!

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Response to whatchamacallit (Reply #62)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:54 PM

64. Yes, let them fly and may Rand Paul bend over to pluck pennies from the eyes

of a corpse at the most perfect time.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:49 PM

63. Better than ever. Thanks, Manny.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:56 PM

66. thanks again Manny

you have cense of humor , irony and reality that makes my day .Plus you make me think so hard my stomach aches .

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 12:58 PM

67. Paul acknowledged that US drone strikes have proven effective...

Paul acknowledged that US drone strikes have proven effective in places like Pakistan and Yemen, including a strike on US-born radical preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, whom Paul branded a traitor.

But "if you're going to kill non-combatants, people eating dinner, in America, there have to be some rules," he added.

http://www.alternet.org/progressive-wire/senators-filibuster-cia-pick-ends-after-12-hrs


Rand Paul supports "swift drone action" based on a "reasonable suspicion" of an "imminent danger"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022472789

People who laud Paul should get to know him.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:43 PM

69. I don't know wtf you're talking about. Very convoluted bs.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 01:53 PM

72. Does it ever freak you out how poorly good satire tends to fare on DU?

Gadzooks, you're about to get run out of town on a rail.

*sigh*

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #72)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:23 PM

77. What's funny (weird funny) is that both Manny's are disparaged here.

And I never know whether to rec. The Third Way Manny's posts or not.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #72)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:57 PM

80. Telegraphing satire has become a very difficult job these days

as things get weirder and weirder. But as Hunter Thompson said, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro". Which I think means that we need to work harder. Or something.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Reply #72)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:10 PM

81. If you could point to

some good satire, that would be helpful. TIA.

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Response to DemocratsForProgress (Reply #81)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:24 PM

83. Yes, please do. I did'nt think the post was good at all.

 

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:18 PM

75. Sorry, Manny, but you fell through the looking glass with this one.

The enemy of my enemy doesn't have to be my friend, and I don't have to give them a handjob just because we're on the bus together.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:44 PM

78. David Sirota at Salon talks about this

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/07/liberals_should_proudly_cheer_on_rand_paul/

His point about hypocrisy is an obvious one but needs to be made imo. At a minimum we need to be talking about this and Paul's speech should have been unnecessary and superfluous.

Sadly, imo, his speech was not superfluous.

I knew we were in trouble when the Attorney General was more or less told in public who he wouldn't be going after in regards The Iraq War, Torture, etc.

"Look forward, not back", that seems to be an ongoing meme.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 02:45 PM

79. Goodspeak! (or crimethink?)

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:14 PM

82. too trivialize the positions of anyone who disagrees with me...

I too trivialize the positions of anyone who disagrees with me and pretend it's satire to better validate my self-identity when I stand shoulder to shoulder with a libertarian.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 03:33 PM

84. iron bipartisanship consensus via ultra-partisanship? works for them!

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:19 PM

86. Really don't mind if you sit this one out

My words but a whisper, your deafness a shout
I may make you feel but I can't make you think
Your sperm's in the gutter, your love's in the sink

So you ride yourselves over the fields
And you make all your animal deals
And your wise men don't know how it feels
To be thick as a brick






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Response to demwing (Reply #86)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 04:58 PM

87. I saw Jethro Tull play a few decades ago

Madison Square Garden. Good stuff. UK opened up for them, IIRC.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:34 PM

88. Rachel Maddow

backed Paul's filibuster on her show, though she said he was an imperfect messanger. She also said she was flooded with hate mail.

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #88)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 05:59 PM

89. Holy Crap! Maddow is dead to me.

Perhaps you can post an OP about her defection from our party? DUers need to know that she now sleeps with Karl Rove.

Regards,

Third-Way Manny

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #89)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:02 PM

90. LOL

I'll send out the alarm, Third Way Manny!

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Response to warrprayer (Reply #90)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:09 PM

93. Add Robinson and tweety

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #89)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 03:04 AM

103. With all due respect to Maddow and others:

Fuck Rand Paul.

Holder responded appropriately in his first letter. This entire episode was a fundraising stunt: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022475057

This is worse than Benghazigate. It's more like Paul's Turkey straw man.

Video: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc-rachel_maddow_show/#50829264

Rachel Maddow Annihilates the Paranoid Delusions of Rand Paul
http://www.politicususa.com/rachel-maddow-annihilates-paranoid-delusions-rand-paul.html

Paul might have well asked if the President believe he can invade Texas.

Rand Paul: "If the President is not going to kill them, why won't he say he's not going to kill"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022470090

Rand Paul supports "swift drone action" based on a "reasonable suspicion" of an "imminent danger"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022472789

Have you heard:

Breaking: Attorney General - Obama Can't Order Drone Attack On Americans On US Soil
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022473840



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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Thu Mar 7, 2013, 06:32 PM

94. LOL

Good one.

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Response to MannyGoldstein (Original post)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 12:59 AM

101. Amen! As one of the great political thinkers of our age once said:

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