Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:18 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
Why Obama’s Not Talking About His Health Care Law In This Election
Why Obama’s Not Talking About Health Care
By: Jon Walker January 26, 2012 In addition to the individual mandate being extremely unpopular, opinions about the entire Affordable Care Act have remained negative and been trending downward. The Kaiser Family Foundation poll found 44 percent view the law unfavorably while just 37 percent now view it favorably. This is why during the State of the Union President Obama gave only the briefest passing mention to his signature health care law, and he didn’t even mention it by name. The State of the Union was a political speech. It is now clear that Obama so terribly mismanaged the politics of health care reform that the law is a serious net negative for the Obama campaign. There is no way Obama could have spent more time talking about the biggest legislative action of his presidency and still have received the incredibly broad approval he did get from people who watched the speech. Don’t expect the issue of health care to be brought up by choice by Democrats in the upcoming campaign. 
http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2012/01/26/why-obamas-not-talking-about-health-care/
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Better Believe It | Jan 31 | OP |
| DJ13 | Jan 31 | #1 | |
| Loge23 | Jan 31 | #2 | |
| patrice | Jan 31 | #21 | |
| cliffordu | Jan 31 | #3 | |
| AtomicKitten | Jan 31 | #4 | |
| zipplewrath | Jan 31 | #5 | |
| uponit7771 | Jan 31 | #7 | |
| zipplewrath | Jan 31 | #20 | |
| AtomicKitten | Jan 31 | #29 | |
| zipplewrath | Jan 31 | #30 | |
| AtomicKitten | Jan 31 | #33 | |
| Better Believe It | Jan 31 | #8 | |
| AtomicKitten | Jan 31 | #19 | |
| Better Believe It | Jan 31 | #24 | |
| ProSense | Jan 31 | #6 | |
| SidDithers | Jan 31 | #9 | |
| great white snark | Jan 31 | #10 | |
| zipplewrath | Jan 31 | #32 | |
| Uncle Joe | Jan 31 | #13 | |
| ProSense | Jan 31 | #15 | |
| Uncle Joe | Jan 31 | #18 | |
| SidDithers | Jan 31 | #11 | |
| patrice | Jan 31 | #12 | |
| patrice | Jan 31 | #14 | |
| patrice | Jan 31 | #16 | |
| Enrique | Jan 31 | #17 | |
| FarLeftFist | Jan 31 | #22 | |
| Better Believe It | Jan 31 | #25 | |
| Bobbie Jo | Jan 31 | #27 | |
| FarLeftFist | Jan 31 | #28 | |
| Motown_Johnny | Jan 31 | #23 | |
| Better Believe It | Jan 31 | #26 | |
| Vinca | Jan 31 | #31 | |
| Life Long Dem | Jan 31 | #34 | |
| Better Believe It | Jan 31 | #36 | |
| Life Long Dem | Feb 1 | #38 | |
| Better Believe It | Feb 1 | #39 | |
| Better Believe It | Feb 1 | #40 | |
| Life Long Dem | Feb 1 | #41 | |
| bvar22 | Jan 31 | #35 | |
| girl gone mad | Jan 31 | #37 |
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:26 PM
1. "..... the law is a serious net negative for the Obama campaign"
Response to Loge23 (Reply #2)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:47 PM
patrice (36,649 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
21. Perhaps, along with tools such as the PCORI (see my post below) it will be a good lever for this
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:32 PM
cliffordu (26,481 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
3. Another cut 'n paste drive-by
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:33 PM
AtomicKitten (37,709 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
4. Except when he does ...
Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:49 PM
zipplewrath (7,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
5. Except that he didn't
Response to zipplewrath (Reply #5)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:50 PM
uponit7771 (12,170 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
7. The title of the OP has nothing to do with the SOTU address
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #7)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:41 PM
zipplewrath (7,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
20. But the CONTENT did
Response to zipplewrath (Reply #20)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:32 PM
AtomicKitten (37,709 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
29. The Affordable Care Act passed in December 2009.
Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #29)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:34 PM
zipplewrath (7,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
30. And that single line was referenced in the OP
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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #4)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:52 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
8. You're right! Obama really pushed it hard in his SOTU election campaign address!
Response to Better Believe It (Reply #8)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:53 PM
AtomicKitten (37,709 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
19. "Thanks for you're information." I am information?
Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #19)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:36 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
24. Yes you is!
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Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:49 PM
ProSense (80,366 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
6. You'll
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enjoy this:
Sebelius v Stewart on Health Care http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/01/24/1057963/-Sebelius-v-Stewart-on-Health-Care Here's another chart from the Kaiser Poll: 
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Response to ProSense (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:54 PM
SidDithers (19,689 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
9. +1...nt
Response to ProSense (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:55 PM
great white snark (1,539 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
10. "it's constant positive movement. Constant progress."
Response to great white snark (Reply #10)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:36 PM
zipplewrath (7,538 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
32. It was a lateral shift
Response to ProSense (Reply #6)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:00 PM
13. That's brings up the question as to what "expanding" it means?
Response to Uncle Joe (Reply #13)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:08 PM
ProSense (80,366 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
15. Here
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from the December poll, people do not approve of the mandate:
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Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:56 PM
SidDithers (19,689 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
11. Keep trying...nt
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 01:57 PM
patrice (36,649 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
12. Why? Because he's waiting to hear what the people want ACA to do: from PCORI
Response to patrice (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:02 PM
patrice (36,649 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
14. NOTE: the People =
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Response to patrice (Reply #12)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:10 PM
patrice (36,649 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
16. BTW, all, Senator Sanders predicted this in his recap of the ACA AFTER it passed & I have stated
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Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 02:15 PM
Enrique (16,926 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
17. I think Obama will talk about it
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:57 PM
22. He hasn't even started campaigning yet. I'm sure he will be all over it. He really has no choice.
Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #22)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:38 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
25. He hasn't? Right. Obama's on fact finding missions!
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Response to Better Believe It (Reply #25)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:06 PM
Bobbie Jo (6,193 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
27. Funny...
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Variations of that RW taking point have been circulating the last several days.
See: Priebus, etc.... Go figure. 
Adapted and Sanitized for your Convenience.  |
Response to Better Believe It (Reply #25)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:09 PM
28. Trust me, you'll know when he's in campaign mode. The RW won't let you forget it.
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:02 PM
Motown_Johnny (11,923 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
23. The problem here is that many want more reform than it provided
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Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #23)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 04:40 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
26. We don't need a reform of the private insurance industry. We need to end it!
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:34 PM
Vinca (21,719 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
31. He's probably smart not to talk about it until after the Supremes make their decision.
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 05:54 PM
Life Long Dem (6,384 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
34. Talk like this?
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State of the Union Address
... Obama: I will not go back to the days when health insurance companies had unchecked power to cancel your policy, deny your coverage, or charge women differently than men. (Applause.) http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/01/24/remarks-president-state-union-address 
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Response to Life Long Dem (Reply #34)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 09:12 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
36. They can't deny you coverage. But the insurance industry can demand outrageous fees ....
Response to Better Believe It (Reply #36)
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 10:56 AM
Life Long Dem (6,384 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
38. Community rating.
Response to Life Long Dem (Reply #38)
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 04:10 PM
Better Believe It (17,811 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
40. So the insurance companies can still set just about whatever premium rates they want.
Response to Better Believe It (Reply #40)
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 07:14 PM
Life Long Dem (6,384 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
41. Adjusted Community Rating (ACR) Definition
Response to Better Believe It (Original post)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 08:10 PM
bvar22 (26,344 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
35. If they think the health care "Reform" is a "negative" now,
Response to bvar22 (Reply #35)
Tue Jan 31, 2012, 10:06 PM
girl gone mad (19,240 posts) Profile Journal Send DU Mail Ignore
37. Yes, that's what is so frightening.
