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meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:29 PM Feb 2013

Call for the Impeachment of Justice Antonin Scalia for violating the oath of the office.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/call-impeachment-justice-antonin-scalia-violating-oath-office/JG77rft2

Justice Scalia stated that the continuation of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act represented the "perpetuation of racial entitlement," saying that lawmakers had only voted to renew the act in 2006 because there wasn't anything to be gained politically from voting against it. The oath of office requires that I he remain impartial and protect all persons rights equally under the law. His statement indicates he not only is not impartial, but also is trying to circumvent the constitution. The legislature put in place laws to protect right to vote for all Americans. His statements are political in nature and indicates that it is his duty to circumvent the actions of the two other branches of government.
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Call for the Impeachment of Justice Antonin Scalia for violating the oath of the office. (Original Post) meow2u3 Feb 2013 OP
A petition you say? Well he'll be outta there before Monday NightWatcher Feb 2013 #1
Well I can help you with the Death Star problem, my friend. white_wolf Feb 2013 #3
Or, we can say nothing.... Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #4
Or as the Teabaggers call it Politicalboi Mar 2013 #33
+1 Peter cotton Feb 2013 #6
I second the motion. This isn't the first time he's made political opinions public. northoftheborder Feb 2013 #2
Agree with sentiment completely, thus rec'd, but isn't this the job of the House of Representatives? freshwest Feb 2013 #5
The House may respond if there is public outcry. rosesaylavee Feb 2013 #10
Thanks for the laugh! The House is not going to do jack shit. The teabaggers madinmaryland Feb 2013 #11
True, but I'd like them all to be hammered from some quarters with this part of the OP: freshwest Feb 2013 #12
This House would likely award him the Medal of Honor (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #31
Since any impeachment proceeding must start MineralMan Feb 2013 #7
Isn't a fear of voter retribution the reason for most votes, especially on laws with feel good names Peregrine Feb 2013 #8
They won't deport them . . . another_liberal Feb 2013 #22
Ah, that'd be me....two blue-eyed grandmothers, one branch with solid tpsbmam Mar 2013 #53
I like this. rosesaylavee Feb 2013 #9
I've signed more petitions, written more letters, called my congressmen mountain grammy Feb 2013 #13
Inquiring minds want to know.. Marie Marie Feb 2013 #28
He has a better chance of being elected Pope than being impeached. IggleDoer Feb 2013 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Feb 2013 #19
after all the insane ones from the NRA PatrynXX Feb 2013 #15
On what grounds? HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #16
Agreed . . . markpkessinger Feb 2013 #17
Nobody was impeached over Dred Scott Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2013 #41
Actually, one can interpret the wording in Article III, Section I of the US Constitution..... OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #29
Bush v Gore noiretextatique Mar 2013 #39
He needs to retire for medical reasons. aquart Feb 2013 #18
Mental medical reasons :) Blue4Texas Mar 2013 #34
Lead poisioning? RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #44
thanks, signed MotherPetrie Feb 2013 #20
k&r&tweeted&faced.. and, of course, signed. . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2013 #21
He's a big hero down in the Gungeon, but, then so is the NRA so there you are. Kick, Rec. apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #23
sign me up libodem Feb 2013 #24
Done! #24 benld74 Feb 2013 #25
Yeah, John Boehner will get that on the House calendar right away! jberryhill Feb 2013 #26
Done. nt. OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #27
Go after him for corruption instead... Deep13 Feb 2013 #30
The Gold Standard For Judicial Impeachment DallasNE Feb 2013 #32
INDEED InversChaosAnon Mar 2013 #35
Sorry... RudynJack Mar 2013 #36
Disagree. His blatantly racist argument against the constitutionality of a law should be grounds. nt ieoeja Mar 2013 #47
OK... RudynJack Mar 2013 #55
Done Little Star Mar 2013 #37
it is not about disagreement noiretextatique Mar 2013 #40
Yep. Little Star Mar 2013 #42
Good luck on getting even one Repug Congress-critter to vote for impeachment. The chance indepat Mar 2013 #38
Impeachment is too good for him RoccoR5955 Mar 2013 #43
Oh sure, that'll happen along with a few war criminal indictments just1voice Mar 2013 #45
(1) Yes, Scalia is an asshat; and (2) No, we shouldn't call for his impeachment . . . markpkessinger Mar 2013 #46
I think we have reached the point where open racism is no longer considered valid ideology. nt ieoeja Mar 2013 #48
"Legislating from the bench" versus "strict constructionism" ProgressiveEconomist Mar 2013 #49
KICKING! patrice Mar 2013 #50
meow, I agree. Slight problem, the House is controlled by saidsimplesimon Mar 2013 #51
That's right. Canuckistanian Mar 2013 #52
k&r limpyhobbler Mar 2013 #54

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. A petition you say? Well he'll be outta there before Monday
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:32 PM
Feb 2013

So lets all sign the magic petition, take a swig of Happy Juice and let the Petition Fairies solve our problems.

Has 1 of Obama's petitions from his petition page accomplished anything?

(I'm still mad we didn't get a Death Star)

 

Cooley Hurd

(26,877 posts)
4. Or, we can say nothing....
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:41 PM
Feb 2013


I think you miss the point of a "petition". It's the vocaliztion of dissent.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
10. The House may respond if there is public outcry.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:53 PM
Feb 2013

I think a petition is one way to start a 'public outcry'.

Next step or another step is to march on the courthouse.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
11. Thanks for the laugh! The House is not going to do jack shit. The teabaggers
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:59 PM
Feb 2013

and boener are just as morally bankrupt as Scalia.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. True, but I'd like them all to be hammered from some quarters with this part of the OP:
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:07 PM
Feb 2013
The oath of office requires that I he remain impartial and protect all persons rights equally under the law. His statement indicates he not only is not impartial, but also is trying to circumvent the constitution. The legislature put in place laws to protect right to vote for all Americans. His statements are political in nature and indicates that it is his duty to circumvent the actions of the two other branches of government.

The USSC has been a flat-out disgrace since the Selection of 2000. This should be recorded and played until they hear this in their sleep. When you elect me dictator, I'll put my plan into action.




Peregrine

(992 posts)
8. Isn't a fear of voter retribution the reason for most votes, especially on laws with feel good names
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:50 PM
Feb 2013

such as PATRIOT Act. The Pubs are real astute at naming vile acts with can't vote against names. What's next the "Warm Puppy Act" to deport any northerners who have immigrated to southern states.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
22. They won't deport them . . .
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 10:39 PM
Feb 2013

They won't deport them, they'll just require anyone who votes to be a racist with a blue-eyed grandmother (if you have two blue-eyed grandmothers, you'll be able to vote twice).

tpsbmam

(3,927 posts)
53. Ah, that'd be me....two blue-eyed grandmothers, one branch with solid
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 08:41 PM
Mar 2013

Southern blue-blood roots.

And I vote solid.....progressive. I get to vote twice? Goody.

rosesaylavee

(12,126 posts)
9. I like this.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:50 PM
Feb 2013

And I disagree it's fucking happy juice as a poster stated up thread.
Petitions still send a message, public outcry is needed here.
And short of rioting in the streets, this is the step to take first.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
13. I've signed more petitions, written more letters, called my congressmen
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:16 PM
Feb 2013

more than you can count to impeach Scalia and Thomas. I was horrified when both were confirmed, especially Thomas. Now I have a Scalia doll and Thomas doll that I stick pins in whenever the corrupt ones are in session. That does about as much good as signing petitions.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
28. Inquiring minds want to know..
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:02 PM
Feb 2013

where, exactly, do you stick those pins? Hope it is somewhere deliciously painful.

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
14. He has a better chance of being elected Pope than being impeached.
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:22 PM
Feb 2013

Come to think of it, let's all support him running for Pope. If he win's it'll force him to resign from the Supreme Court and get him out of the country.

Response to IggleDoer (Reply #14)

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
17. Agreed . . .
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:53 PM
Feb 2013

. . . and if we start down the path of impeaching Supreme Court justices because we disagree with their ideology, we will be opening up a can of worms for the GOP to try to do the same with moderate and liberal justices.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
29. Actually, one can interpret the wording in Article III, Section I of the US Constitution.....
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:13 PM
Feb 2013

....as grounds for removal....

SECTION 1.

The judicial power of the United States, shall be vested in one Supreme Court, and in such inferior courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour, and shall, at stated times, receive for their services, a compensation, which shall not be diminished during their continuance in office.


One could easily interpret his latest comments as a violation of holding his office "...during good behaviour....".


DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
32. The Gold Standard For Judicial Impeachment
Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:40 PM
Feb 2013

Is the Chase impeachment by the House and acquittal in the Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Chase

From this I see no chance of Impeachment happening -- just saying.

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
36. Sorry...
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:57 AM
Mar 2013

I can't agree. Scalia is, in fact, a troll (as Maddow characterized him tonight) but trying to remove justices because you disagree with them is abhorrent.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
47. Disagree. His blatantly racist argument against the constitutionality of a law should be grounds. nt
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:25 PM
Mar 2013

RudynJack

(1,044 posts)
55. OK...
Sat Mar 2, 2013, 11:35 PM
Mar 2013

You get a Republican-controlled House to decide that a) Scalia is racist and b) racism is an impeachable offense. Then get a sizable number of Republicans in the Senate to agree.

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
40. it is not about disagreement
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:28 PM
Mar 2013

it's about his inability to separate his personal views from his duty to be fair and impartial.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
38. Good luck on getting even one Repug Congress-critter to vote for impeachment. The chance
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:24 PM
Mar 2013

can come in 2015 if enough deserving Repugs lose their seats in the House and Senate. The fine Justice Scalia is taking loathsomeness to an art for, imo, as he figuratively shits on the Constitution, the law, and the people, and gives all the middle finger in real time.



Edited to insert a comma for a period

 

just1voice

(1,362 posts)
45. Oh sure, that'll happen along with a few war criminal indictments
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:08 PM
Mar 2013

as soon as "law" means something in the U.S. again.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
46. (1) Yes, Scalia is an asshat; and (2) No, we shouldn't call for his impeachment . . .
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:20 PM
Mar 2013

. . . at least not on the basis of what is likely to be his ruling in the case involving the Voting Rights Act, how ever vile his reasoning. Look, it goes without saying that the man's statements in this case (among many others) were utterly despicable. But, leaving aside, for the moment, the fact that impeachment doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in the House, consider this: if we were to go down the path of impeaching a Supreme Court justice based on his ideologoical stance, it would set a dangerous precedent -- a precedent Republicans would seize upon at the first available opportunity in order to remove a more moderate or liberal justice whose rulings they disliked. Do you really want to open up that can of worms?

(Cross-posted from http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022443338)

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
49. "Legislating from the bench" versus "strict constructionism"
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 06:52 PM
Mar 2013

Isn't Scalia doing a sharp about-face from his own previous stance on the role of the USSC versus the majoritarian role of Congress?

How many times since 1964 have Republicans campaigned for statewide and national office on pledges to appoint :strict constructionists" rather than judges who "legislate from the bench"?

We need to appreciate the enormity of what Scalia is spouting.

Scalia is advocating overturning majority rule, just what Republicans have accused Democrats of since the 1960s Warren Court.

But recently a historian demonstrated that anri-majoritarian accusations against the Warren Court are false:

Here's a snippet from a favorite MSNBC law professor guest's review of "The Warren Court and American Pollitics". by Lucas A. Powe, Jr. (Harvard University Press).

From http://www.newrepublic.com/article/politics/the-end-deference :

"THE END OF DEFERENCE, by Jeffrey Rosen

... how did the Warren Court come to be defined as a group of judicial legislators who repeatedly thwarted the political branches? ... In 1964, Barry Goldwater tried to make an election issue of the civil rights, criminal procedure, and school prayer decisions, but he was dramatically rebuffed. Indeed, the Court viewed Johnson's landslide election as a vindication of its bold leadership in Brown. "Never before in American history," Powe writes, "has a Court been told it was so right." ...

Powe argues that at the beginning of the 1960s the Warren Court decided cases on the basis of values that most Americans (with the exception of recalcitrant outliers) shared, such as overcoming segregation, Victorianism, malapportionment, and the use of the third degree. ...

Of course, all three branches of national government will not always agree: the harmony of the Warren era appears to have been the exception rather than the rule. But although the Court should never allow the president and Congress to violate clearly defined constitutional rights, it should give Congress substantial leeway to define and to enforce its own conception of constitutional rights, even when this vision is more expansive than that of the Court. This deference to the competing constitutional views of Congress was clearly anticipated by the framers of the Reconstruction Amendments to the Constitution, who saw Congress, and not the Court, as the primary enforcer of the constitutional guarantee of equal protection of the laws. But deference to Congress is a virtue that the imperious Rehnquist Court has refused to display. ...

A deferential Court would generally uphold the acts of the political branches, even when it disagreed with them, unless the president and Congress had violated constitutional rights and limitations that were too clear to ignore. It is not surprising, perhaps, that the Court has managed to avoid a political backlash against its high-handedness by keeping its finger to the political winds. But have the political branches become so cowed by the Court's grandiose assertions of its own supremacy that they have lost the will to stand up for themselves?"

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
51. meow, I agree. Slight problem, the House is controlled by
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:15 PM
Mar 2013

Republican imposters. Justice Scalia is an example of what to expect if we elect another Republican.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
52. That's right.
Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:50 PM
Mar 2013

Scalia should be looking at this strictly from a legal point of view. Any LEGAL argument should NOT be based on political considerations or biases.

But then again, that's what he's been doing for his whole career on the bench.

I think there's a good case for impeachment here.

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