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This young Quiverfull escapee hopes to establish a safe house for other young women

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trying to escape from their oppressive religious communities.

She's written a brief essay as part of a scholarship application, the winners to be determined by online voting. If you want to help, you could vote at the link.

http://www.wyzant.com/scholarships/v3/essay64934-Charlotte-NC.aspx

I grew up in an extremely religious home where women were encouraged to refuse an education and degree and have children and be homemakers. I left when I was 20 and have spent two years rounding out my education and working to save money so I can go to college. My parents refuse to support me or offer any assistance, including just signing my FAFSA.

If I were to finish college and get a degree, I would first help my 6 younger siblings (specifically the two girls) to also find a way out and get on their feet and go to school.

Then, I would love to create a safe-house where children of religious homeschooling families can come to improve their lives and future and have hope.

From struggling with poverty, to being unable to get a job without a resume or employment history, and often a substandard education; the children of the Quiverfull movement have extreme challenges to overcome. A home like this would be a safe platform for them to transition into the world without being abandoned to struggle. Many of their parents wish this difficulty for their children, saying it will cause them to return and be content with the party line. I want to create a buffer for the pain parents cause when they shun and disinherit their children for religious reasons.

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http://www.wyzant.com/scholarships/v3/terms.aspx?a=1

Prior to June 7, 2013, a second round of evaluation will take place during which current tutors on WyzAnt will be allowed to vote on the twenty finalists. At the conclusion of this period, the three Applicants whose essays have secured the highest total votes will be awarded scholarships of $10,000, $3,000 and $2,000 respectively. Each scholarship will be paid directly to the scholarship recipient's college or university.

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pnwmom Feb 2013 OP
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ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2013 #4
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Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #72
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Lars39 Feb 2013 #10
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pnwmom Feb 2013 #22
distantearlywarning Feb 2013 #54
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pnwmom Feb 2013 #26
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Still Blue in PDX Feb 2013 #27
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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:17 PM

1. I wish her much success!

It's a difficult and lonely path she is on.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:19 PM

2. She just got my vote.

Hope she is successful.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:22 PM

3. Thanks for bringing this here.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:44 PM

6. You're welcome. I hoped people would respond as I did.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:34 PM

4. "Quiverfull" - Our very own American version of Taliban life for women. n/t

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Response to ProfessionalLeftist (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:34 PM

33. Not quite

The taliban would have beheaded or stoned her rather than let her escape their lifestyle. That said, this does sound like child abuse to me but religious fanatics tend to really piss me off.

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Response to leftynyc (Reply #33)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:19 PM

48. Definitely child abuse.

And religious fanatics piss me off to no end too.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:43 PM

5. This group is dangerous in that they want to have many children so they can bring

 

them up to become leaders in their government and turn us into a christain law runned country. What a group. The thing is all these groups such as this are doing it right under our noses and they don't care if it takes years. They figure they will win and turn us over. That is why I fear the republican party let them take over them. Scary stuff if you read about this group and many more like them. Palin is one of them. She thinks she is god's chosen. She thinks she is Queen Esther. America needs to pay attention to these people.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:49 PM

7. As what happened with Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock

and then transvaginal ultrasound bills, I think the GOP already has.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:52 PM

8. You can't take your eyes off these religious crazies, ever. They don't care if it takes 50,60

 

or 100 yrs to get what they want this country to be.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 08:52 AM

72. Mormons are already doing this.

They have played the 'long game' now for over 100 years.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:56 PM

40. They are extremely scary.

It was two to three years ago, when Jack Cafferty was still on Blitzer's show. Cafferty did a brief segment on the dominionists. He had never heard of them. He was genuinely distressed about what he had learned & shared some things on air. He asked viewers to write in. Later, he read some responses. Every response, except one, had never heard of dominionists & they were as disturbed about it as Jack. It was apparent that people wanted to know more, but do you think CNN ever did a followup on dominionists? Fuck no. Religion is sacrosanct. Even if it's some seriously fucked up shit, talk about God & Jesus & you're safe. Words speak louder than actions.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #40)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:57 PM

58. All you go to do is google them. That will scare the hell out of you. Dominionist is what I

 

think Palin is. Also check out Seven Mountains. We must be kept aware. By the way is Caffy still on the CNN staff?

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #58)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:30 PM

68. He left last fall. Not sure if it was by choice or not.

He was one of the main hosts on CNN's morning show back in 2001. He was a real cheerleader for the Iraq war & Bush in general. Then he started to see the light & started speaking out. Next thing you know, he had two 3-minutes segments in Blitzer's show. I think even to the end he was a thorn in their paw.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #68)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:44 PM

70. Pretty sad he was good.

 

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #40)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:07 PM

66. Dominionists are the Christian Taliban

Their goal is to overthrow the US government and establish a theocracy. They take the phrase, "Repent or die," literally. Other names for it are Christian Reconstructionism and Theonomy. Read a little about their beliefs; extremely scary, indeed.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:55 PM

9. K&R

Thanks for posting this.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:00 PM

10. She needs to be legally emancipated from her parents so that she can get financial aid.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:02 PM

12. She is over 20 years of age. She is already an adult.

She needs nothing but her determination and help from those who understand her issues and goals. I think she will get what she needs.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:08 PM

16. True, but FAFSA applications require parents' financial information until the age of 23.

While understandable, this is a huge stumbling block for many people that I know when they are trying to go to college. I think it is one reason we are seeing so many nontraditional students these days (myself included). It was much easier for me once i no longer had to list the income of my estranged father, as if he has anything to do with my financial life.

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Response to antigone382 (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:13 PM

22. Good for you for hanging in there and continuing with your education

even though you didn't have your parents' help.

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Response to antigone382 (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:19 PM

54. Same Here.

My parents weren't interested in helping me financially, but they made a lot of money. I had to wait until I was in my mid-20s to go to college, because I couldn't get any financial aid at all when I was required to put their income on my forms - income I wasn't able to actually benefit from!

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Response to distantearlywarning (Reply #54)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 04:04 PM

59. I had the same problem as a teen out of high school.

Frustrating! I mean besides the fact you have to deal with parents who don't give a shit about your education, you have to deal with being forcefully disadvantaged because of them.

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Response to laundry_queen (Reply #59)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:31 PM

61. It was bad enough when the required age was 21.

There's no excuse for making it 24.

Sorry this happened to you!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:09 PM

17. If her parents claimed her as a dependent on their tax return

she could be ruled ineligible, however a financial aid director usually has the authority to override certain regulations and could determine she is independent.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:11 PM

19. The law requires her to be 24 to obtain financial aid without her parents' complying with FAFSA.

There are only a few exceptions now -- e.g., if she is married, has a baby, or is applying to grad school.

The age was bumped up a long time ago.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:12 PM

21. Which is, apparently, why she is applying for this

scholarship. I wish her success, but think she will succeed, one way or another.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #12)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:12 PM

20. No, for student financial aid, her parent's income is considered as part of the equation

until she is age 24.

on edit: age 24, not 25.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:07 PM

14. hopefully she will help other young women do that, because 18 years is too long

to be treated like a 2nd class citizen.
Hope she gets the scholarship!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:01 PM

11. I voted for her. The extreme fundamentalist

Christians in this country are very dangerous. They have zero tolerance for anything or anyone who is not closely aligned with their weird ideas. Because of this, they are against everything the United States is supposed to be for. They need shaming, at a minimum.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:04 PM

13. Voted and shared.

 

End the cycle.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:08 PM

15. Isn't this the Duggar Family cult? What a great contribution she could make!

It is indeed Taliban-like in keeping girls from being able to say "No" to men and make their own way in the world.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:11 PM

18. the Duggar family of "19 Kids and Counting"

This is an old photo, however


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Response to BuddhaGirl (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:13 PM

23. OY. And thanks for the proper spelling. OY!

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Response to nolabear (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:17 PM

26. I think you're right. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:13 PM

24. She has my vote

I would love to know how she came to know of the "outside world."

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Response to BanzaiBonnie (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:04 PM

42. same here, she's got my vote.

And that's an interesting question.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:15 PM

25. Glad to vote for her. nt

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:19 PM

27. Back when I was a Christian and had AOL (both in my very remote past) . . .

I remember being chastised on message boards by those women about my sinfulness in not trusting the Lord enough to quit my job and stay home and bring an endless stream of babies into the world. Sometimes I let it get to me, but looking at my kids and their lives, though not perfect, I'm very happy with my choices.

Thank you for sharing this!

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Response to Still Blue in PDX (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:22 PM

29. You're welcome, Still Blue! n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:22 PM

28. I hope she succeeds in every way

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We, as a nation, are neglectful of the educational and psychological needs of young women raised in cults to be nothing but slaves and brood mares. It's considered "freedom of religion" when you fuck up another person's life and deny them full exercise of their rights because they happen to be your offspring.

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Response to get the red out (Reply #28)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:11 PM

43. +1 billiongazillion!

We can't give up. We have to fight for more women in power in all aspects of society--liberal, progressive women who know what discrimination is and have empathy and a drive to improve everyone's lives.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:23 PM

30. Thank you for sharing this, I voted too. (n/t)

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #30)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:28 PM

32. You're welcome. And thank you, too! n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:24 PM

31. I voted for her, and wish her well.

I hope she's able to fulfill her dreams of being able to help others in her position.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:36 PM

34. Voted. I wish her all the luck in the world.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:40 PM

35. I voted for her....

My family home had the same stupid thinking that hers did. I hope she gets the scholarship. k&r

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:42 PM

36. Voted.

And best of luck to her.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:50 PM

37. as a question


Can she not divorce her family? I have a problem with the concept of not having anything to do with parents and still needing their permission to get a loan.

Anybody know?

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #37)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:54 PM

39. I have looked into this for other reasons.

It appears to be very difficult, at least in most states. The law doesn't seem to recognize that there could be a necessity for this, once a person is 18 or older. (The emancipation laws only apply to those under 18.)

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #39)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:17 PM

46. Well, that sucks


How can you not get free of a toxic family until you get to be 24? Is that a magic age? Would the young person be liable for the parents debts, even if they do not live at home?

This is just a terrible situation.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #46)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:13 PM

65. I don't think a young person would be liable for the parents' debts, although

years ago, adult children were held liable in some states for parents' nursing home costs. That changed when the Medicaid law was put into effect. But if that law was ever changed or repealed, states would be free again to hold adult children responsible for the care of their parents.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:50 PM

38. K&R

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:02 PM

41. Voted and reposted to FB. Thanks. K&R n/t

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #41)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:13 PM

44. Thank you! n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:16 PM

45. Kick & Rec

And Voted!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:19 PM

47. done and posted to FB

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:31 PM

49. voted! good luck

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:38 PM

50. Proudly voted.

It must be extremely difficult to have been reared in that society, and yet have the brilliance of mind to oppose the doctrines of that society.

I hope this young woman has a bright future. She deserves it.

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Response to hamsterjill (Reply #50)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:29 PM

67. +1

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:55 PM

51. voted and shared

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:09 PM

52. Sent to the family

and then put onto my Facebook page, so she will get votes from the 3 people who follow me.

She has a important cause, and I wish her all the luck that she wins the scholarship.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:17 PM

53. Oh wow, she is just down the road form me.

Wishing her the best, she got my vote.

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Response to wildeyed (Reply #53)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:26 PM

60. Yay! Maybe you can pass this on to some of the other neighbors.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:31 PM

55. what a brave young woman..

bravo! I voted for her as well.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:35 PM

56. Good for her

and I wish her the best! THanks, pnwmom, for brining this here.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:44 PM

57. Happy to vote for her!

Very courageous! I wish her the best of luck!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:38 PM

62. Far, far too often . . .

Far, far too often home schooling of children functions as what amounts to child neglect. Very few people are truly qualified to properly "school" their own children in the subjects taught by trained teachers.

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Response to another_liberal (Reply #62)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 06:09 PM

64. And sometimes it's worse than simple neglect.

I know a woman who had no one to turn to, when she was abused, because she was home-schooled in an isolated location.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #64)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 09:42 PM

69. Good point.

Sometimes home schooling is actually used to teach children they should accept the worst kinds of abuse without complaint.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:39 PM

63. Voted. Big K&R. I hope she wins this scholarship and many more

to make her dream come true. We need her to succeed!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:57 AM

71. K&R n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:48 AM

73. Morning kick! nt

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:03 PM

74. Thanks, everyone! I saw this young woman's vote total go up all day yesterday and I know why.

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:17 PM

75. Weekend kick for a most worthy young woman's cause nt

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 01:30 PM

76. kick

I voted for her and wish I could vote again. I wish her a bright future.

I hope she writes a book about her experiences. I'd be the first to read it (I love books about escaping oppressive religions).

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Response to tabbycat31 (Reply #76)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 07:05 PM

78. I hope she does, too!

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Response to pnwmom (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 02:01 PM

77. kick

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