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Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:11 AM

Senator Mark Warner Goes On MSNBC To Promote Right-Wing Cuts To Social Security Benefits

If you're in VA, use the link to give him a call!

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WARNER: Let me start with chained CPI which is a more rational way to measure inflation, deals with both the entitlement programs and Social Security, lets look at raising the cap on Social Security, letís look at phased-in raising the age of Social Security, letís look at means-testing Medicare, letís look at combining the various Medicare programs into a single deductible, so everybodyís got at least a little bit of skin in the game in terms of the services they use.

Read more, watch it, make a call: http://boldprogressives.org/senator-mark-warner-enact-chained-cpi-raise-the-social-security-age/

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Reply Senator Mark Warner Goes On MSNBC To Promote Right-Wing Cuts To Social Security Benefits (Original post)
Report1212 Feb 2013 OP
Autumn Feb 2013 #1
Report1212 Feb 2013 #2
northoftheborder Feb 2013 #3
Autumn Feb 2013 #4
Samantha Feb 2013 #5
librechik Feb 2013 #6
Report1212 Feb 2013 #7
librechik Feb 2013 #8
Hard Assets Feb 2013 #9
Report1212 Feb 2013 #10

Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:15 AM

1. The Senator Mark Warner who is a Democrat?

raising the cap is good, raising the age of Social Security phased-in or not sucks as does means testing Medicare.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:16 AM

2. He has the D next to his name

But sometimes I think he forgets it is there

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Response to Autumn (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:23 AM

3. I heard discussion of raising the age for receiving Medicare yesterday.....

The point was made, that raising the age for receiving SS means that many, many more people will have no insurance, and receiving expensive emergency room care, or on Medicaid. Most would be retired, therefore not paying into the system, so that less money going into the SS fund. If the age to start SS were lowered to say 60, or 55, those people would likely be still working, paying into the system, also contributing to SS because they would be paying a monthly premium, their insurance copays would be much less. More healthy people, more healthy SS system. What's not to like???? why can't intelligent people see this? It's not that complicated.

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Response to northoftheborder (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:29 AM

4. Lowing the age is a perfect thing to do. Those are great points.

Intelligent people can see that, but not the greedy politicians. Might loose a few corporate bucks in their coffers.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:33 PM

5. A chained CPI is not a rational way to measure inflation for seniors unless

your definition of rational is fraudulent. The CPI currently in use excludes items seniors are more likely to spend the most money on, and it eliminates items that have fluctuating values. Neither is factored into the formula currently being used, and you want to denigrate that formula further by failing to pay an appropriate COLA. The proper CPI to apply to Social Security is the CPI-E. Let's talk about that!

No to raising the age of eligibility for Social Security or Medicare. I am not sure why Social Security is in these deficit talks to begin with since it does not contribute to the deficit itself. If you want to lower Medicare costs, go after the health insurance and pharmaceutical entities which are gouging the heck out participants in this program by exorbitantly overcharging.

If you want to start with everyone having a little bit of skin in the game, get the corporations who pay no taxes to ante up, remove the subsidies to the Oil Companies, revoke the tax credit to companies that move jobs out of the Country, nullify the tax loopholes the very wealthy use to evade taxes, and then get back to us.

Sam

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:32 PM

6. he said raise the cap!

I thot every critter in Congress was totally cluelss about that easy solution...

The rest is crap. It's a preemptive strike against linking benefits with inflation, which is humane, unlike the chained CPI.

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Response to librechik (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:52 PM

7. Seems if you raise the cap you don't need any of the other things

So why does he want to do it?

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Response to Report1212 (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:54 PM

8. He knows the House will never go for it--even though they have already raised the cap

many times since the 40s. The other stuff is possible, tho cuz it won't solve the problem and it's cruel to people. Just what the Repuglies like.

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Response to Report1212 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:06 PM

9. Warner needs to resign, effective immediately

 

and turn it over to the next progressive Democrat.

ANY Democrat calling for cuts to Social Security needs to turn his Democratic Party card in and go to the right side and kiss up.

Warner should be kicked out of the caucus and told that he is no longer welcome.

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Response to Hard Assets (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 02:31 PM

10. He is up in 2014 btw

Not a whole lot of Democrats lined up to replace him though, or to take on Coochinelli

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