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Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:03 AM

I live in a small town...

yesterday two cops were shot and killed by a guy with multiple previous offenses, including firearm offenses.

The murders were half a mile away from me. The suspect was killed right next to my local supermarket.

We've never had a cop killed here. This guy should not have been allowed to have guns. Yet, he had permission to own three guns.

He was a convicted sex offender, he broke firearms laws, and he was still allowed to own guns. When is enough enough?

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Reply I live in a small town... (Original post)
RudynJack Feb 2013 OP
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #1
RudynJack Feb 2013 #2
RudynJack Feb 2013 #3
Skittles Feb 2013 #4
RudynJack Feb 2013 #6
Skittles Feb 2013 #17
RudynJack Mar 2013 #18
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #10
RudynJack Mar 2013 #19
TeeYiYi Mar 2013 #23
Hekate Feb 2013 #5
RudynJack Feb 2013 #7
life long demo Feb 2013 #8
RudynJack Feb 2013 #11
bluedigger Mar 2013 #20
RobertEarl Feb 2013 #9
RudynJack Feb 2013 #12
Warpy Feb 2013 #13
Ilsa Feb 2013 #14
glinda Feb 2013 #15
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #16
Rowdyboy Mar 2013 #21
RudynJack Mar 2013 #22

Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:07 AM

1. You mean legally allowed to own guns?

Or just not arrested for it? Who gave him "permission"?

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:10 AM

2. The news reports said

they were legal.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:12 AM

3. And I presume

you meant to express sorrow for the loss of our peace officers and just forgot to do so. I forgive you.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:19 AM

4. it's just collateral damage, RJ

paranoia and fear are more important than sympathy

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Response to Skittles (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:23 AM

6. Maybe I"m just dense...

but I don't know what you mean, Skittles. Is it good or bad that our cops were murdered?

Edit: I think you're being sarcastic. Right?

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:27 PM

17. it is terrible

but you will not get sympathy from gun nuts - their paranoia and fear overrides ALL common sense and decency

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Response to Skittles (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:49 AM

18. Ah, I gotcha.

Thanks. Sorry for my confusion.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:34 AM

10. Sorry about that - a senseless crime, a damm shame.

I still wanna know how a multi-time loser, presumably a felon, can own 3 guns legally. Is this the one (God help us all, they are starting to run together....) with body armor, too?

In a similar case here (Cullen Mutrie, coke/steroid dealer - NH) Mom bought the guns for sonny's last stand, killed a nicest-guy-in-the-world small town police chief.

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:50 AM

19. He stole the body armor

out of the car used by the cops he killed.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 03:18 AM

23. He also stole the two slain officers' guns.

I don't think he had legal permission to own the 3 guns found in his possession since at least two of them were stolen.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/gunman-who-killed-2-santa-cruz-cops-wore-body-armor-police-say-.html

TYY

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:21 AM

5. I'm so sorry for your loss

Loss of the two cops, who were no doubt known to most of your small town. Loss of your sense of security in your hometown. Loss of your sense of identity with that town.

So much loss, so much grief -- for their families, for the whole town.

There is a madness in our nation. I hope it gets better, that it even heals, in what is left of my lifetime.

Peace to you and yours.

Hekate

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Response to Hekate (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:27 AM

7. Thank you Hekate.

Much appreciated. I had one small encounter with Ms. Butler. Nothing worth claiming friendship over. But my encounter was... nice... she was a good cop.

These murders are hard on our little town.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:28 AM

8. I read that story yesterday about the 2 cops

who were murdered on the steps of the shooters house. So sick and so sad. Then last night saw video of Lindsey Graham berate and insult a police chief at a hearing yesterday. That was sick and sad also. I wonder if Graham is up for election again soon. He is such an ass.

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Response to life long demo (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:34 AM

11. What

I really was hoping for was a giant non-sequitor. thanks.

I came home to find helicopters flying overhead, and the my badger had cold sores. I blame the Portuguese.

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Response to RudynJack (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:56 AM

20. Not funny or clever.

Why are you taking a dump in your own thread?

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:33 AM

9. That is awful

Our police hardly ever get the support they deserve much less the pay. So I think I can say at least they died doing what they loved?

We can't turn back time, if we could we'd all make sure the shooter never got a gun. But he did. And what happened will happen again. Just as it has happened time after time. Until we figure a way to keep shooters like that from holding.

Please don't take comments here too personal. Many of us have dealt with war deaths and many other injustices. We've hardened hearts.

Peace to you and your small town.

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Response to RobertEarl (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:36 AM

12. Thanks for

your last sentence.

I'm not sure I can say anything about the rest. But I appreciate the final sentiment.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:52 AM

13. Enough was enough many years ago.

Don't expect politicians to do anything about it, they're far too frightened of all the mailers the NRA will send out to everyone with a record of buying a gun if they do.

I lived in a placid small town in New England. One of the local cops was shot in the face with a shotgun when he was on patrol. I don't think they ever did find out who did it. The cop lived, thank goodness, he wasn't a bad guy. It just shocks the hell out of everybody when it happens in a small town. Here in the inner city, people expect things like that from time to time.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:50 AM

14. If Scalia thinks SCOTUS should do something

About the Voting Rights Act because politicians are too wussed-out politically to make a stand, then SCOTUS should definitely jump on gun control. We know politicians are too frightened to do the right thing.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:54 AM

15. There are two small towns in our State that experienced the same thing recently.

Brings out the "dare" and the "crazy" for sure. Sadly.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:59 AM

16. Terrible, especially in a small town where the cops were probably respected community members.

And where people know them and their families. Gun violence needs to be heavily cracked down.

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Response to RudynJack (Original post)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 01:59 AM

21. Apparently,in America today enough is never enough....

What a sad shadow of a republic this country has become. I'm nearly 60 and I remember when I was proud of the Democratic party and what it stood for. Today, not so much.

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Response to Rowdyboy (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 02:01 AM

22. I'm still incredibly proud

of the Democratic Party. The murder of these officers never struck me as a partisan issue.

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