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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:28 PM

 

Cuomo Announces Plans To Modify Gun Control Law To Exempt Film Industry

To Also Fix Error In Legislation Featuring Cops And High-Capacity Magazines

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — Just a month after Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the strictest gun control law in the country, state officials plan to make some exemptions.

The law toughened restrictions on military-style rifles and high-capacity semiautomatic handguns, but those restrictions will be changed so those types of weapons can be used on the sets of television shows and movies being shot in New York.

“We spend a lot of money in the state bringing movie production here, post production here. So obviously we would want to facilitate that,” Cuomo said....

...The measure passed so quickly that as it reads now, police officers carrying high-capacity magazines could be in violation of the law, Diamond reported....


Haste makes waste. Real hypocrisy takes some thought and planning.

See more at: http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/27/cuomo-announces-plans-to-modify-gun-control-law-to-exempt-film-industry-cops/#sthash.aBf6Iw9e.dpuf

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Reply Cuomo Announces Plans To Modify Gun Control Law To Exempt Film Industry (Original post)
slackmaster Feb 2013 OP
Skip Intro Feb 2013 #1
dsc Feb 2013 #2
Skip Intro Feb 2013 #3
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #7
dsc Feb 2013 #8
NYC_SKP Feb 2013 #9
slackmaster Feb 2013 #15
dsc Feb 2013 #16
slackmaster Feb 2013 #17
dsc Feb 2013 #18
CokeMachine Feb 2013 #20
dsc Feb 2013 #21
slackmaster Feb 2013 #22
dsc Feb 2013 #23
slackmaster Feb 2013 #24
dsc Feb 2013 #25
slackmaster Feb 2013 #26
CreekDog Feb 2013 #28
Peter cotton Feb 2013 #4
dsc Feb 2013 #5
Comrade_McKenzie Feb 2013 #6
cherokeeprogressive Feb 2013 #13
Warren Stupidity Feb 2013 #27
Peter cotton Feb 2013 #10
dsc Feb 2013 #11
Peter cotton Feb 2013 #12
mwrguy Feb 2013 #14
SayWut Feb 2013 #19

Response to slackmaster (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:35 PM

1. WTF?

Some people seem obsessed with telling others what they may and may not do.

"Hollywood" gets an exemption.

"But the rest of you, gimme your guns and your 2-liter bottles of Pepsi!"

Your comment says it all.

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:02 PM

2. well I'll tell you

the first time 20 school kids are killed on the set of a movie then you can start complaining about exemptions for movies. until then not so much.

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Response to dsc (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:03 PM

3. Oh man.

smh

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Response to Skip Intro (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:33 PM

7. Results of an alert on this OP.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:36 PM

8. for the record I didn't alert you

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Response to dsc (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:37 PM

9. Nor I, you, dsc.

Only on sad weekends am I even half-tempted, and even then I usually don't!

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Response to dsc (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:00 PM

15. People who are engaged in making movies aren't any more trustworthy than other members...

 

...of the general public. Movie prop weapons can be stolen or misused as easily as a weapon kept for any other purpose.

Either the presence of an "AW" in the state inherently poses an extraordinary danger to the public, or it doesn't.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:02 PM

16. Name one mass shooting due to a prop gun

go ahead I'll wait. I will bookmark this as I am waiting with baited breath.

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Response to dsc (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:05 PM

17. A large majority of rifles have never been used in mass shootings or any other kind of crime

 

Why should their owners be penalized if they don't happen to be movie studios or prop providers?

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:22 PM

18. because they don't have a perfect record

the studios do. now that said, if you are willing to shoot nothing but blanks then you can have the gun.

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Response to dsc (Reply #18)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:31 PM

20. You do know "blanks" have killed people don't you?

 

Nevermind -- you probably don't.
Take Care

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Response to CokeMachine (Reply #20)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:05 AM

21. yeah they have killed a few

the two I know of are Jon Eric Hexum and the son of Bruce Lee (I don't recall his name). But I would be willing to bet some pretty big bucks that never in the history of the world has there been a massacure where the method was blanks.

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Response to dsc (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:21 AM

22. I see that as an apples-to-oranges comparison

 

The aggregate amount of time that movie prop weapons are out of their safes is a whole lot lower than that for non-prop guns.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #22)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:40 AM

23. and that would be a perfect reason to exempt them

as they behave differently.

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Response to dsc (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:41 AM

24. I disagree. Because movie prop guns are used so rarely, that makes the sample set too small...

 

...to determine whether or not they behave differently than, for example, a similar firearm kept by a gun collector who takes it out once or twice a year to a shooting range.

ETA I believe the real cause of violent crime is people who commit violent crimes. Availability of one kind of implement or another makes no difference.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:45 AM

25. tell that to the people who weren't murdered by the axe

they were saved by one gay go go dancer. Had that been an assault weapon, the entire bar would have been dead.

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Response to slackmaster (Reply #26)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 05:36 PM

28. falsehoods are not arguments either

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Response to slackmaster (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:05 PM

4. What idiocy.

 

Modern guns are evil...unless they're in a movie or tv show, in which case bring 'em on in!

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Response to Peter cotton (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:09 PM

5. So no movie should show illegal conduct?

I'm glad gay film makers didn't have to abide by sodomy laws. I am glad the makers of Guess Who is Coming to Dinner didn't have to abide by interracial dating laws.

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:10 PM

6. Trying to explain make believe to a gun nut is a waste of time. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:44 PM

13. I would say the same thing about school districts where kids are suspended

for first making a fist, then raising the thumb and straightening the index finger.

And anyone who thinks it's okay to suspend kids for it.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:13 AM

27. I agree that is full of stupid.

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:43 PM

10. This isn't about the portrayal of illegal conduct.

 

A movie or tv show being filmed in New York could use prop guns which are not illegal under the previous version of the SAFE act. The revised version will allow tv and film producers to possess weapons that are otherwise illegal for civilians, because y'know...entertainment!

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Response to Peter cotton (Reply #10)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:46 PM

11. Yes so they would be depicting illegal conduct

just like gay film makers depicted the breaking of sodomy laws and the Silence of the Lambs depicted the breaking of all kinds of laws.

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Response to dsc (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:54 PM

12. The SAFE Act does not address the portrayal of illegal conduct.

 

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It addresses the possesion of assault weapons. Had it not been revised, it would have been illegal for a film company to bring an AR-15 with a 30 round magazine into New York. Under the revised version, it will be legal.

Does that clear it up for you?

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Response to dsc (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:56 PM

14. The thing is that they use real guns.

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Response to slackmaster (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:48 PM

19. Gun control, NY style.

 

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