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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:35 PM

GOP Signals Surrender on VAWA!!!?

Zandarís Morning Read: House GOP Signals Surrender On VAWA

It looks like the House GOP has figured out that actively legislating discrimination about which women deserve protections under the Violence Against Women Act is not only unrelentingly awful, but political hemlock as well.


House Republican leaders signaled Tuesday night that they are ready to let their VAWA bill die and clear the way for a broader, bipartisan Senate bill. The Senate legislation includes new protections missing from the House bill for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT), Native American and immigrant victims of domestic violence.

Hereís the House GOP plan procedurally, based on House Rules Committee actions Tuesday night: The House is expected to hold two VAWA votes on Thursday. The first will be to strip out the language of the Senate VAWA bill and replace it with the House GOP language. Since that isnít expected to pass, lawmakers will then vote on the Senate VAWA bill itself. A GOP source involved in negotiations conceded that there is greater support for the Senate bill, and that the Senate version is likely the one to pass. That means VAWA could land on President Barack Obamaís desk by the end of this week ó the version sought by the White House and Democrats.

Pretty much total surrender here on the issue as House Republicans have the approval ratings of somewhere between ebola in a nursery school and National Chewing On Tinfoil Month.


That House Republican leaders are allowing the Senate bill to get a floor vote is significant because they refused to let that happen in the last Congress, even though lawmakers in both parties believed it would pass. The move also signals that GOP leaders are ready to stop fighting over an issue that has damaged them politically. Congress failed to reauthorize VAWA in 2011 due in large part to House Republican resistance to the new protections in the Senate bill, and Democrats clobbered them over it throughout the 2012 election season.



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Reply GOP Signals Surrender on VAWA!!!? (Original post)
sheshe2 Feb 2013 OP
niyad Feb 2013 #1
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #3
niyad Feb 2013 #4
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #5
October Feb 2013 #10
catbyte Feb 2013 #2
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #9
catbyte Feb 2013 #27
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #28
freshwest Feb 2013 #6
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #7
freshwest Feb 2013 #14
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #17
freshwest Feb 2013 #20
catbyte Feb 2013 #29
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #8
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #11
freshwest Feb 2013 #16
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #24
one_voice Feb 2013 #12
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #13
niyad Feb 2013 #18
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #22
niyad Feb 2013 #23
Cha Feb 2013 #15
sheshe2 Feb 2013 #19
Cha Feb 2013 #21
freshwest Feb 2013 #25
Deep13 Feb 2013 #26

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:51 PM

1. wouldn't it be nice if they had done this because it is the RIGHT thing to do, and NOT because

not passing VAWA is hurting them politically? what a bunch of sick, woman-hating cretins.

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:14 PM

3. So very true, niyad!

However at this point, I will take it anyway we can get it to pass.









Thanks, niyad.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:16 PM

4. absolutely agreed--at this point, whatever their "reasoning" is. . .

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Response to niyad (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:26 PM

5. ...

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Response to niyad (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:37 PM

10. Yes.

They sure do hate on women. Brazenly.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:52 PM

2. And the Republicans take 1 step forward & 2 steps back. How's Indiana's double

State-Sanctioned Rape Bill proceeding?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 09:16 PM

9. catbyte...

let's see what we can do about that next.

So sad we have to still keep fighting the issue of womens rights, over and over!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:06 AM

27. I was a freshmore in college when Roe v Wade was decided and thought it was settled.

Silly me. I didn't realize how deep misogyny ran. It's exhausting and even though I had a complete hysterectomy almost a decade ago, I will keep fighting for my sisters until my last breath.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #27)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:11 AM

28. Sister, I am with you on that!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:02 PM

6. K & R

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Response to freshwest (Reply #6)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:16 PM

7. Thank you, freshwest!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:07 AM

14. Obama stood firm, wouldn't agree to their watered down, bigoted bill. Hope to see the details soon.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:14 AM

17. He did, as we knew he would.

Damn let's make this right!

freshwest and thank you!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:21 AM

20. Nooo, thank youuu, Sheshe!

That's a line from a movie. They repeat it over and over...

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #17)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:11 AM

29. As an Anishnaabek woman, I have nothing but praise for President Obama. He has

kept his promises to both Native Americans and women. Even the rare NA Republican acknowledges that President Obama has supported us more than any other in modern political history.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:45 PM

8. K and R. This is why people have to speak out.

It's how we support Obama against the pukes, and also what we must do when we disagree with him.

Thanks for posting, sheshe!!

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #8)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:10 PM

11. Thanks again, Blanche.



And The Children Suffer


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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:10 AM

16. Yes, it gets passed down through the generations. We must break the cycle for future generations.

The VAWA in past year proved that can be done. Don't give up on doing what is right for all.


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Response to freshwest (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:31 AM

24. I will Never Ever give up on this...

Anymore than I will give up on this President, the man who is trying his damnedest to move this country forward.

Thank you, freshwest!

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:20 PM

12. Assholes are just caving..

for political purposes. It makes me so sad and angry to know there are women that will happily vote for these scumbags. Any woman that votes for a man that votes against this should have to see domestic violence up close and personal.

Go and see the women beaten to a pulp, see the children damaged and scarred from it. Not just in passing, spend time, listen to them try and understand their pain. See their bruises, their cuts, the pain in their eyes. The screams in their sleep. The emotional damage that will take so much longer to heal.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 10:49 PM

13. How any woman could vote for this party...

well, in my mind it is beyond belief!

You know, what the really sad part is, I think many of them are in this situation. Women do not speak out, from fear and from shame. They have been mentally and physically abused and their children threatened.

This is a disease that needs to be stopped.

Thank you, one_voice.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:18 AM

18. did you see "makers: women make america" on pbs last night? there was quite a section

on bringing domestic violence into the open, how hard it was to do so, how resistant the pols, police, etc., have been (and still are, disgustingly enough) they showed tracy thurman, a woman who survived her husband's murderous attack while the police did nothing. there is now a thurman law in several states requiring the police to take action in domestic violence situations.

(found a bit on the web:


Resolved Question

What happened to tracy thurman?
watching the movie a cry for help. Wondering what happened to her. What has she done with her life since the movie. How is her son and is Buck out of prison ?


Thanks to her, there is now the Thurman Law, which called for mandatory arrests in wife-beating cases in Connecticut and several other states. In the twelve months after the new law took effect, the number of domestic violence assaults reported increased by 92 percent.

Read the page 38 of that 88 pages PDF document. In 1984, Tracey Thurman was awarded 2.3 million dollars in damages from the city of Torrington, Connecticut.
http://www.brown.edu/Departments/TaubmanÖ


A Cry for Help: The Tracey Thurman Story (1989)
Tracy Thurman (played by Nancy McKeon in the movie) was married to a man who abused her. But he continues to harass her after she gets a restraining order, and the police do little to help. When he brutally beats her and slashes her throat in front of police, she sues the city and the police department for failing to protect her.

The scene of Buck's final, near fatal attack on Tracey is extremely violent and a almost TOO long. Buck Thurman chases Tracy down, throws her to the ground and stabs her repeatedly. As she lays helpless on the ground, he kicks her, jumps on her head and screams at her that she MADE him do all this, its all her fault (isn't that what the abuse always says)--stopping a couple of times and wandering a few feet away only to return and continue his attack. During this time, a police officer stands there, and as he says later "I continued to observe the situation". The only action he takes during the attack is to try and restrain the boyfriend (maybe husband?) of Tracey's friend when he attempts to aid her and picking up Buck's dropped knife and locking it in the trunk of his car. The only reaction we see from him is when Buck attempts to grab his son--then the officer rouses himself a bit.

It is this handling of the attack that leads Tracey to sue the police department on the grounds that they failed to offer her equal protection under the law.



Here's from the New York Times:
http://movies2.nytimes.com/gst/movies/moÖ
Tracey Thurman was a real-life Connecticut housewife who, throughout her marriage, suffered horrendous abuse at the hands of her husband. The beatings culminate in a single bloody night when Buck Thurman stabs his estranged wife 13 times. She survives--barely--and Buck is arrested. Having failed to get proper protection from the local police force, Tracey successfully sued the officers in 1989. The long-range result was the Thurman Law, which called for mandatory arrests in wife-beating cases in Connecticut and several other states. Nancy McKeon, who plays Tracey Thurman in A Cry for Help, starred in the film in the hope that it would prevent Buck Thurman's early release from prison. A Cry For Help: The Tracy Thurman Story first aired on October 2, 1989; Thurman was scheduled for release in 1991.

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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070606214628AAlybf4

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Response to niyad (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:36 AM

22. I am crying here, niyad

this subject pains me beyond belief.

No I did not see the pbs airing. However I will try to find it. I will read the rest of your links tomorrow. I can not bring myself to do it tonight. Dear God in heaven, you say the police actually stood and did nothing! Nothing. No words, I have none left. All that is left is the tears.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #22)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:41 AM

23. this is definitely a subject for the light of day--not something one needs to read before trying

to go to sleep. When I saw that last night, and read further tonight, I kept thinking about nicole brown simpson, and how the cops did nothing when she called 911 except ask for his autograph.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:10 AM

15. "political hemlock".. as in overkill.

Thanks she!



Did all our petitions and emails help, perhaps?

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:18 AM

19. I bet they did, Cha. I really do!

Time to put the women in charge... the GOP menzzz need the naughty mat NOW!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 12:27 AM

21. Lol :))))

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:39 AM

25. Haha! Needed the laugh on this heart rending thread. Thanks.

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Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 01:56 AM

26. We shall be merciful if they pay us tribute!

If not, then we take Texas in 2016.

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