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Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:39 PM

That a black man-born 1948 in Pin Point, GA-could be party to such a ruling simply boggles the mind

SCOTUSBlog warns us that we should expect another 5-4 ruling, one that strikes Section 5 from the books. That's their preliminary analysis after listening to oral arguments today. They don't think preclearance will be ruled completely unconstitutional, but the law will have to be redrafted somehow if we're going to salvage anything.

From the Shelby County argument

Following through on the deep constitutional concerns stated in its prior Northwest Austin decision, a majority of the Court seems committed to invalidating Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act and requiring Congress to revisit the formula for requiring preclearance of voting changes. The vote seems quite likely to be five to four. The more liberal members pressed both the narrow argument that an Alabama county was not a proper plaintiff because it inevitably would be covered and the broader argument that there was a sufficient record to justify the current formula. But the more conservative majority was plainly not persuaded by either point. It is unlikely that the Court will write an opinion forbidding a preclearance regime. But it may be difficult politically for Congress to enact a new measure. More analysis soon.

- See more at: http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/02/from-the-shelby-county-argument/

That a black man, born in 1948 in Pin Point, Georgia, could be a party to such a ruling simply boggles the mind and takes self-loathing to a level probably not seen before outside of an asylum.

- See more at: http://www.boomantribune.com/#sthash.4Hl3Fdoi.dpuf
http://www.scotusblog.com/2013/02/from-the-shelby-county-argument/

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Reply That a black man-born 1948 in Pin Point, GA-could be party to such a ruling simply boggles the mind (Original post)
kpete Feb 2013 OP
zappaman Feb 2013 #1
UTUSN Feb 2013 #9
SummerSnow Feb 2013 #40
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #2
LoisB Feb 2013 #4
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #7
warrant46 Feb 2013 #33
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #35
mimi85 Feb 2013 #46
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #47
SammyWinstonJack Feb 2013 #12
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #11
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #13
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #15
Skittles Feb 2013 #18
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #19
GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #50
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #57
steve2470 Feb 2013 #16
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #17
Skittles Feb 2013 #21
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #22
Skittles Feb 2013 #25
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #26
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #28
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #29
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #32
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #34
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #36
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #37
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #38
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #45
mimi85 Feb 2013 #49
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #52
Ilsa Feb 2013 #53
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #54
Ilsa Feb 2013 #55
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #56
DallasNE Feb 2013 #42
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #44
ProSense Feb 2013 #3
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #5
deutsey Feb 2013 #59
jaysunb Feb 2013 #6
Taverner Feb 2013 #8
RedSpartan Feb 2013 #10
aikoaiko Feb 2013 #58
VA_Jill Feb 2013 #14
JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #60
reformist2 Feb 2013 #20
stillcool Feb 2013 #23
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #27
stillcool Feb 2013 #31
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #24
timdog44 Feb 2013 #30
chase48 Feb 2013 #39
demwing Feb 2013 #41
GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #51
Marr Feb 2013 #43
Hekate Feb 2013 #48

Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:40 PM

1. Douchebags come in all colors. n/t

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:20 PM

9. R#16 & K for, you beat me to it. n/t

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Response to zappaman (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:20 PM

40. Douchebaggery is on the color wheel

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:42 PM

2. Are you talking about Thomas? I agree with you. He wouldn't be where he is today

 

if it weren't for people fighting for his rights.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:49 PM

4. Fighting and dying - he is the epitome of "self-loathing".

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Response to LoisB (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:59 PM

7. He sure does seem like that. I never liked him. I always believed Ms Hill.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:50 PM

33. Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Dong_Silver

as Anita Hill alleged that Thomas had mentioned to her that he was a viewer of Long Dong Silver's films.

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Response to warrant46 (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:52 PM

35. Yes indeed. How can we forget.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:34 PM

46. Same here!

I watched almost every minute of the hearings at the time. I was really stunned when he was confirmed. He's one of those people you get that "gut feeling" about right from the beginning. Ha, I had the same feeling about Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong - and my daughter's current boyfriend.

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Response to mimi85 (Reply #46)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:35 PM

47. Let's pray your daughter will listen up.

 

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Response to LoisB (Reply #4)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:32 PM

12. republicanism=self-loathing.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:27 PM

11. Nonsense. He did it all himself.

Just like all those conservative businessmen did it all themselves. They built their own grade schools & then worked their way through them. Same with high school & college.

Then they built the highways that their truck fleets run on.

So get off Clarence's case, why dontcha, huh?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:33 PM

13. Last time I check I was entitled to MY own opinion. You can think what you want. He didn't

 

get there on his own. Yes he had the grades. Many people went before him. You can think want you want, its a free country.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:35 PM

15. Well, ya know, I have this allergy

to the sarcasm thingie…

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:49 PM

18. you could not have been more obvious, Jackpine

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #15)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:50 PM

19. Gee wiz. I wish I could recognize sarcasm when I see it.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #19)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:50 PM

50. Didn't you know that Jackpine is an alien?

He's a Sarcastrian, from the planet Sarco, which has three moons, Snark, Skep and Cyn.

He also has a holodeck in his house.

That's why almost everyone likes him - He throws great parties on the holodeck and you don't get a hangover.

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Response to GoneOffShore (Reply #50)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 07:52 AM

57. Damn, my cover is blown!

No more holodeck orgies for you.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:40 PM

16. I think Jackpine is being sarcastic nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #16)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:49 PM

17. Oh I wish I knew that. I have a hard time with that.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #17)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:52 PM

21. I have a coworker like that

he seems to be unable to recognize sarcasm in written form, only in spoken form - maybe some people need the verbal cues

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Response to Skittles (Reply #21)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:54 PM

22. That's me. Your right. There should be a law that we get verbal cues.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #22)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:02 PM

25. well, online there is the use of the sarcasm thingie

yes INDEED

by the way, that coworker is brilliant tech-wise, which is what counts where I work

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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:05 PM

26. Yes I see it. But I don't know how to find it. It's not on our list.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #26)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:20 PM

28. Just type colon-sarcasm-colon

only use the : punctuation marks with no little hyphens,
thus:

I generally don't like using it, though, because I always assume (often wrongly, obviously) that people should "get it" without the cue, and it seems almost insulting to attach the tag.

It might not be bad for you to practice recognizing sarcasm, though. Like, if something sounds really ridiculous or outrageous, maybe you ought to consider the idea that it might not be a straightforward assertion.

Maybe practice on Stephen Colbert's stuff, for example.

Also, anything Manny Goldstein posts on DU and signs "Third-Way Manny" is invariably sarcastic, although many people seem to miss the fact.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #28)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:27 PM

29. Jackpine one day I read a Onion comment and I thought it was really. I sure gave

 

everyone a good laugh. Everyone made a comment. I didn't get it. I made everyone day on that one. I fall very easy for things. I get Colbert Report very easy because I watch it. Sometimes I do get it. But it has to be out there. But I like your suggestion and I think I will use it. That is if I can remember it. LOL

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #29)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:45 PM

32. I imagine it's a learned skill.

You may not have grown up or lived around people who use it a lot, for example.

For all I know, it could be a regional thing.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #32)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:51 PM

34. Well I did spend my childhood in europe. But my parents use to say I am a gullible.

 

It also could be a regional thing. I lived all over the united states. Who knows, LOL. If you tell me something I will believe you usually. My husband told me am to trusting. He may be right. I have been burnt a couple of time lending people money. But finally learned to stop that.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #34)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:53 PM

36. Do you have any business partners

who are Nigerian princes?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #36)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:56 PM

37. Na, LOL. Am Italian-American. Why Nigerian princes?

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #37)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:00 PM

38. OMG, you must be the last person on Earth not to have gotten an email like this--

Lagos, Nigeria.
Attention: The President/CEO

Dear Sir,

Confidential Business Proposal

Having consulted with my colleagues and based on the information gathered from the Nigerian Chambers Of Commerce And Industry, I have the privilege to request your assistance to transfer the sum of $47,500,000.00 (forty seven million, five hundred thousand United States dollars) into your accounts. The above sum resulted from an over-invoiced contract, executed, commissioned and paid for about five years (5) ago by a foreign contractor. This action was however intentional and since then the fund has been in a suspense account at The Central Bank Of Nigeria Apex Bank.

We are now ready to transfer the fund overseas and that is where you come in. It is important to inform you that as civil servants, we are forbidden to operate a foreign account; that is why we require your assistance. The total sum will be shared as follows: 70% for us, 25% for you and 5% for local and international expenses incidental to the transfer.

The transfer is risk free on both sides. I am an accountant with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). If you find this proposal acceptable, we shall require the following documents:

(a) your banker's name, telephone, account and fax numbers.

(b) your private telephone and fax numbers —for confidentiality and easy communication.

(c) your letter-headed paper stamped and signed.

Alternatively we will furnish you with the text of what to type into your letter-headed paper, along with a breakdown explaining, comprehensively what we require of you. The business will take us thirty (30) working days to accomplish.

Please reply urgently.

Best regards

Howgul Abul Arhu

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #38)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:33 PM

45. LOL, no your right I have never gotten something like this before. I will tell you if I

 

get an email I don't recognize I delete it. I don't read email from people I don't know. I only email family members and very few friends. If I email a DU I do it on here. I have heard about this kind of letter as I have seen people suing their friends of Judge Judy. What I have learned if it sounds to good to be true it is something I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. You had me there for a minute. Never heard of the Princes.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:46 PM

49. My sister

was the same way. She had a charming naiveté - sure do miss her (car accident).

Ha, good ole Judge Judy. I was stunned when I found out she makes around $45 million A YEAR!

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Response to mimi85 (Reply #49)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:33 PM

52. I am sorry you lost your sister. It must be very hard. Do you have other siblings? I have a

 

twin sister and 2 other sisters and one brother and one brother who died of cancer. They live in another state. I talk to my twin every day. I mean every day. Sometimes its more. That naivete' is about right with me and my mother. She was a character. $45 million is sure alot of money. You couldn't pay me to stand in front of her court unless I knew I had a strong, strong, strong case. LOL

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #45)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 07:44 PM

53. Check your spam file in your email.

There's all kinds of hysterical stuff in there. Just don't click on any of it. LOL

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #53)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:09 PM

54. Don't laugh but I don't know how to do that. I have alittle knowledge of computers.

 

Just enough to get myself in trouble. Is that the same as junk mail? Cause I do have that. I never open it I just delete because I don't recognize the senders.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #54)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:13 PM

55. Yep, that's it!

Yeah, you should stay out of it, then.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #55)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:33 PM

56. I do. I am so afraid to click into it. I get all kinds of stuff. They even use my first name.

 

Don't worry I won't do that.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

42. He Is A Product Of Affirmative Action

While I will say that he was qualified, though thinly, for the position he clearly benefited from a boost from affirmative action based on his body of work. He simply pulled up the ladder after him, turning on those in need. That was always the risk with affirmative action.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #42)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:28 PM

44. Affirmative action. That is right. I forgot what it was called. Your right about him pulling the

 

ladder up behind him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:47 PM

3. Soulless jerk! n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:53 PM

5. He got his, fuck you. A good conservative, indeed. K&R

 

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:47 AM

59. Yep..."I Got Mine" should replace "In God We Trust"

It's a more accurate reflection of what we truly value as a country and it doesn't take as long to say or type.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:59 PM

6. One of my many reasons to loath George HW Bush

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:00 PM

8. Some victims become determined not to be attacked - -by becoming their attackers

 

Think Sawyer from LOST

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:24 PM

10. It would boggle your mind even more

if you have ever been to Pin Point. I have, many times (my grandparents retired to Skidaway Island, which is down the road). When you hear someone is "dirt poor," that's what this is. Just shacks in the woods, next to a swamp, surrounded by chicken wire. And at the entrance a plaque honoring Thomas. This is a view from the road:

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Response to RedSpartan (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:40 AM

58. FYI, that structure, the old Yarn seafood factory, has been renovated into a museum.

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They did a very nice job with it. The museum and tour is a nice 2 hour event if someone wishes to visit and learn more about Pin Point and the geechee.

But what you say is true. Pin Point has always been a poor enclave. Many of the inhabitants are the marsh version of "dirt farmers". Growing, hunting, and collecting all their food for survival -- not for sale.

The factory processed crab and oysters and provided families with an actual paycheck. Picking crabs and sucking oysters was a step up that supplemented subsistence agri/aquaculture, but still the pay and working conditions were not great.

The experiences of those who grew up during desegregation at Pin Point are complex. To see the shacks and trailors, Thomas boggles the mind, but to talk to people who grew up in Pin Point during desegregation one can "almost" see how that experience could form a Thomas.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:34 PM

14. Back in the day

and not so long ago, we'd have called him an Oreo...brown on the outside, white on the inside.

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Response to VA_Jill (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 08:54 AM

60. Look

I hate the s.o.b. - but back in the day that was also lodged at any person of color of the 'mulatto' or 'mulatta' version. I had to throw a few punches on the playground because of that in late 1970's and early 1980's.


He's not that - that is just a way for someone to ask "Why do you talk white?"


Stick to - he's an ignorant repitilian son of a bitch that is too wet to step on and way too damn low to kick.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:51 PM

20. I think every jurisdiction should have to be precleared.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:55 PM

23. aren't there only a couple of states

That are still affected by that?

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Response to stillcool (Reply #23)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:12 PM

27. More than a few....

The jurisdictions listed below must be precleared:

States

Alabama, except for the city of Pinson

Alaska

Arizona

Georgia, except for the city of Sandy Springs

Louisiana

Mississippi

South Carolina

Texas, except for Jefferson County Drainage District Number Seven and Northwest Austin Municipal Utility District Number One

Virginia, except for 24 counties (Amherst, Augusta, Bedford, Botetourt, Carroll, Craig, Culpeper, Essex, Frederick, Grayson, Greene, James City, King George, Middlesex, Page, Prince William, Pulaski, Rappahanock, Roanoke, Rockingham, Shenandoah, Washington, Warren, and Wythe) and six independent cities (Fairfax, Harrisonburg, Manassas Park, Salem, Williamsburg, and Winchester)
Counties

California: Kings (except for Alta Irrigation District), Monterey, Yuba (except for Browns Valley Irrigation District)

Florida: Collier, Hardee, Hendry, Hillsborough, Monroe

New York: Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), New York (Manhattan)

North Carolina: Anson, Beaufort, Bertie, Bladen, Camden, Caswell, Chowan, Cleveland (except for the city of Kings Mountain), Craven, Cumberland, Edgecombe, Franklin, Gaston, Gates, Granville, Greene, Guilford, Halifax, Harnett, Hertford, Hoke, Jackson, Lee, Lenoir, Martin, Nash, Northampton, Onslow, Pasquotank, Perquimans, Person, Pitt, Robeson, Rockingham, Scotland, Union, Vance, Washington, Wayne, Wilson

South Dakota: Shannon, Todd

Townships

Michigan: Clyde Township (Allegan County), Buena Vista Township

New Hampshire: Rindge, Millsfield, Pinkham's Grant, Stewartstown, Stratford, Benton, Antrim, Boscawen, Newington, Unity

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #27)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:40 PM

31. wow...not at all

what I was thinking. My impressions were it was a statewide compliance issue, and once a state ran a certain number of clean elections they were cleared. It wasn't on-going. Once a state was cleared, they were cleared. I also thought there was an expiration date.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 04:59 PM

24. I have a VERY difficult time understanding why ANY black supports...

...any part of the right-wing agenda, to include being a member of the GOP.

I just don't get it.

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Response to OldDem2012 (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 05:31 PM

30. I guess I don't

get that 47% of the people voted for someone who was going to take their "wealth" and health away from them.

But initially I was thinking the same thing, but didn't know if I was going to be getting into stereotyping or not. I thinks it is a matter of what someone up above said about him "I got mine and fuck you". Like so many who get theirs and don't want to let any of it go.

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Response to chase48 (Reply #39)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:24 PM

41. please take care

making explicit threats against SCOTUS justices can earn you lots of bad attention

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Response to demwing (Reply #41)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:53 PM

51. Elvez has left the building.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:28 PM

43. It's not suspicious at all that the court would take up this issue as the GOP is attempting to

truly re-rig the voting game to marginalize non-Republicans. The last election made it clear that they've lost to pure demographics, and suddenly, here were are-- seeing the rules of the game redefined to keep the Good ol' Boys Club on top.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 06:43 PM

48. Oh, I don't think it's self-loathing; he just thinks he is very very special

Clarence Thomas is a midget standing on the shoulders of giants, and never looked beneath his feet to see how hard they struggled so that he could be where he is.

Oh, and btw, I always believed Professor Anita Hill.

Hekate

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