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Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:29 AM

 

Photograph of the 6th President of the United States

"Photographic copy of a daguerotype," whatever that means, of John Quincy Adams. 1843. This is the oldest picture ever of an American President.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Quincy_Adams

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Reply Photograph of the 6th President of the United States (Original post)
Mason Kennedy Feb 2013 OP
Wounded Bear Feb 2013 #1
onehandle Feb 2013 #5
progressoid Feb 2013 #10
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #21
datasuspect Feb 2013 #2
onehandle Feb 2013 #4
Myrina Feb 2013 #39
Tikki Feb 2013 #3
Dpm12 Feb 2013 #6
JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #7
enlightenment Feb 2013 #8
frogmarch Feb 2013 #14
EC Feb 2013 #24
JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #9
midwest irish Feb 2013 #11
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #12
midwest irish Feb 2013 #13
AlbertCat Feb 2013 #22
el_bryanto Feb 2013 #15
SunSeeker Feb 2013 #16
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2013 #17
woo me with science Feb 2013 #20
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #18
xxqqqzme Feb 2013 #19
NBachers Feb 2013 #23
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #25
rdharma Feb 2013 #27
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #30
Rider3 Feb 2013 #26
frazzled Feb 2013 #33
KittyWampus Feb 2013 #50
patrice Feb 2013 #28
Arkana Feb 2013 #32
patrice Feb 2013 #36
WilliamPitt Feb 2013 #29
Arkana Feb 2013 #31
patrice Feb 2013 #34
DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #46
lame54 Feb 2013 #35
DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #45
CarrieLynne Feb 2013 #37
malthaussen Feb 2013 #38
life long demo Feb 2013 #41
NYC Liberal Feb 2013 #40
ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2013 #42
DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #43
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #51
DrewFlorida Feb 2013 #52
NoMoreWarNow Feb 2013 #44
loudsue Feb 2013 #47
kiva Feb 2013 #48
RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #49
MadrasT Feb 2013 #53
TheMightyFavog Feb 2013 #54

Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:35 AM

1. Daguerotype was an early form of photohgraphy.....

Named after its French inventor DaGuerre. It used primitive chemicals by modern standards. IIRC they tended to come out in browninsh or sepia tones.

So "Photographic copy of a daguerotype" means it is a picture of a picture.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:00 AM

5. Tended to kill the photographer too. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:22 AM

10. Yep.

Mercury fumes tend to do bad things to you.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:16 PM

21. It's actually a "negative" image on a glass plate

and you have to put a black background behind the glass plate to see it...by turning to the light at the right angle.

That's why they had to make a "photographic copy" of the Daguerotype.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:41 AM

2. he looks like he could probably whip most modern politicians' asses with a belt

 

for being mockeries of statesmen.

what a glare that man has.

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:59 AM

4. 'Sir. Are you stealing my soul?' nt

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Response to datasuspect (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:27 PM

39. Aaah, now there's a thought ...

Some of 'em could use it.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 10:45 AM

3. Looks a bit like the first Doctor Who...



Wait...do you think? Time traveler and all.


Tikki

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:00 AM

6. I'm related to

JQA and his dad

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Response to Dpm12 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:20 AM

7. Cool!

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Response to Dpm12 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:21 AM

8. If you're related to John Q, I hope you're related to his day . . .

otherwise, we need to know what Abigail was getting up to while John Sr. was down at the coffee house with his mates, complaining about King George's latest abuses and usurpations!

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Response to Dpm12 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:32 AM

14. So am I.

Through our common ancestors, John and Elizabeth Thomson Cogswell.

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Response to Dpm12 (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:23 PM

24. So am I

but no one in our family looks like him that I can tell from this photo.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:22 AM

9. Ahhh there you are

You brave old soul!


I wonder if he looks more like Abigail or John . . . Based on paintings - he seems to have Abigail's jaw/mouth.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:24 AM

11. I wonder what books

 

those are behind him?

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:29 AM

12. I think they are a couple of Nora Roberts'.

Mixed in with a few Danielle Steele's, and one or two Anne Rice's.

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Response to Tommy_Carcetti (Reply #12)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:30 AM

13. I think

 

that is the most logical possibility.

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Response to midwest irish (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:17 PM

22. I wonder what books those are behind him?

Either the "Harry Potter" series or the "Left Behind" series.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 11:33 AM

15. He also wrestled under the name "El Quincinator." That story isn't as well known though. nt

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:01 PM

16. He looks good for a 76-year-old...no small feat considering the average lifespan at the time. nt

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:01 PM

17. I dunno...he doesn't look at ALL like John Quincy Adams...

Everyone knows THIS is J Q Adams:




(from "Amistad")

Welcome to DU, by the way!

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:10 PM

20. Right after some fava beans and chianti...

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:03 PM

18. Cool.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:09 PM

19. It is amazing to me to realize

this photograph reaches back to the revolution.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:23 PM

23. Sandwiched between James Monroe and Andrew Jackson.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:41 PM

25. This is great. JQA is a Founder.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:47 PM

27. JQA is a Founder.

 

According to Michelle Bachmann?

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Response to rdharma (Reply #27)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:51 PM

30. D'oh! That was his daddy. Spoke to soon.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:45 PM

26. what a happy-looking guy....

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Response to Rider3 (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:53 PM

33. The exposure time was quite long

So the subject had to sit still, often supported. This led to stiff, unnatural poses.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #33)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:11 AM

50. A friend of mine who was into reenactments & stuff said that was key to getting good photos… looking

uncomfortable and stiff. Just pretend you've been forced to sit on a hard chair for 20 minutes without moving a muscle on a hot day. LOL!

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:49 PM

28. Wow, what a face!

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Response to patrice (Reply #28)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:53 PM

32. Nope, that was his dad.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #32)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:58 PM

36. Yeah, I just looked it up. I love! old photographs, because you can just almost

put yourself in that time and place just looking at their faces.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:50 PM

29. History geekgasm

So cool.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:52 PM

31. An unhappy man who had an unhappy Presidency.

Adams suffered from the same problems his father did--a grand, detailed vision for the country's future and absolutely no willingness or ability to compromise in order to achieve it. The Jackson-allied Congress pledged to make his life hell from the moment he took the oath of office, and they made good.

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Response to Arkana (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:56 PM

34. Looks as though no one could tell him to put that used handkerchief in his pocket.

I've known someone like that.

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Response to patrice (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:24 PM

46. He would have had to sit motionless for many minutes for this photograph, which explains

his stiff and emotionless pose.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:57 PM

35. Looks like President Cheney

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Response to lame54 (Reply #35)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:22 PM

45. John Quincy Adams was a much better person than Dick Cheney.

He defended in court, the slaves from the ship Amistad and won their freedom, when no other lawyer would take their case.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:04 PM

37. there was a "Democratic-Republican" Party? wonder how that went LOL!

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:22 PM

38. Nice pic, but I wish there was a recording...

... too bad voice reproduction was a few years away.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #38)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:34 PM

41. Prepare yourself for some humor.....

We do have their voices, just watch the musical 1776, they are all there, except for JQA of course. LOL

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:32 PM

40. Only person to lose both the electoral vote and the popular vote and still become president.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:36 PM

42. An uninteresting (to most) side note...

First, great historical image. Thanks for posting it.

I was married years ago to a direct descendant of this man. My daughter is descended from his bloodline also. Doesn't mean much really this far out but just an interesting part of the trivia of my life.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:18 PM

43. A daguerotype was the earliest form of photography, a photograpic copy is

just what it sounds like, a photo of the original daguerotype (not the actual daguerotype). A daguerotype is a piece of glass coated with chemicals and exposed to light, creating a photo on glass. Daguerotype photography was first invented in France in 1839 and quickly spread across Europe and America. One of the problems with early photography was the subject had to sit motionless for several minutes during the exposure, which is why the people in the photos always look rigid and emotionless.

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Response to DrewFlorida (Reply #43)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:26 AM

51. IIRC, daguerotypes had to be developed with mercury...

You had to heat the mercury and expose the plate to mercury vapor.

This process tended to be hard on photographers.

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Response to backscatter712 (Reply #51)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:15 PM

52. I didn't know that, tha's interesting, thanks!

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:21 PM

44. he was ~78 when that image was taken

 

and looks pretty good, especially for that time!

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:00 AM

47. Cool post!

Really interesting stuff!

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:08 AM

48. And a photo of our fourth First Lady



Dolly Madison and her niece, 1848.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 01:11 AM

49. Crazy how the world was black and white back then.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:27 PM

53. Way cool

Thanks for posting.

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Response to Mason Kennedy (Original post)

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 08:55 PM

54. He wasn't the first SITTING president to be photographed.

That honor went to William Henry Harrison. The photo was taken on the day of his inauguration.

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