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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:39 PM

Baltimore Sun critic calls MSNBC "worse than Fox" and an "organ of state propaganda"

(Found via drudge ReTORT) David Zurawik of the Baltimore Sun writes:

MSNBC has long been as bad as Fox News when it comes to ideological bias. But with the hiring of longtime Team Obama loyalists David Axelrod and Robert Gibbs, it’s official: MSNBC is worse.

The cable channel that flies under the banner of NBC News is now all but a bona fide organ of state propaganda, an information channel that speaks in the same dominant voice as the folks running the government -- and tries to mask what it is up to.


Citing as example:

Mitchell started out a remote interview with Axelrod, who was in Chicago, by asking about the sequester set to take effect Friday.

“Remember,” he says, “the cuts put into place were so odious it was thought no rational legislator, no rational government official, would allow it to happen.”

As Mitchell starts to pivot to another issue with a new question, Axelrod interrupts her with, “One more thing, Andrea. There is a belief among some Republicans in Congress that maybe this sequester’s all right. Maybe this is another way of shrinking government in a dramatic way. That’s a dangerous idea, but it’s not uncommon in some quarters on Capitol Hill.”

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Reply Baltimore Sun critic calls MSNBC "worse than Fox" and an "organ of state propaganda" (Original post)
alp227 Feb 2013 OP
quinnox Feb 2013 #1
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #8
LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #13
rurallib Feb 2013 #2
Cha Feb 2013 #15
Narraback Feb 2013 #3
KharmaTrain Feb 2013 #4
BootinUp Feb 2013 #5
City Lights Feb 2013 #18
think Feb 2013 #6
highplainsdem Feb 2013 #7
BainsBane Feb 2013 #9
Cha Feb 2013 #16
Marr Feb 2013 #10
Vattel Feb 2013 #11
limpyhobbler Feb 2013 #12
Beaverhausen Feb 2013 #14
Stinky The Clown Feb 2013 #17
fujiyama Feb 2013 #19

Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:41 PM

1. never liked MSNBC

 

I agree they seem to be the Fox news of the left. When I used to watch cable news on a regular basis, CNN was my go to channel. I don't watch cable news much anymore though.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:49 PM

8. What does the "Fox News of the Left" sound like?

The truth?

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Response to quinnox (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:05 PM

13. Really? CNN has very little value.

For me it MSNBC, NPR, or CSPAN. I change CBS nightly when that pos Pelley is on.

And CNN slams Michelle Obama at the Oscars?

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:51 PM

2. maybe he should watch dead intern Joe

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Response to rurallib (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:10 PM

15. Yeah, get some of his kind of perspective.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:58 PM

3. Need to look at writer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Zurawik

"Zurawik is a frequent guest on the CNN’s public affairs talk show “Reliable Sources",” He has also appeared on Fox News shows such as “The O’Reilly Factor” and “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.”

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:02 PM

4. Guess This Shitstain Conveniently Forgot...

...besides Joey, they have Mikie Steele...former RNC Chairman and Steve Schmidt...Grump McQueeg's campaign manager as paid contributors. Faux has Kucinich and ???? (have no clue I don't watch newsporn).

I used to see this dude when I used to watch Chicken Noodle Nuze. He'd be on with Whorie Kurtz and constantly bash Keith Olbermann. Guess he wasn't good enough to work at one of Rupert's bird cage liners...yet he keeps trying...

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:25 PM

5. This might tell us more about the Baltimore Sun than MSNBC. nt

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Response to BootinUp (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:16 PM

18. Ha!

Indeed!

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:47 PM

7. Zurawik's been attacking MSNBC and suggesting Fox is better for years.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x257148

Anyone who's called Fox News "one of the leading journalistic institutions in the country" and praised Sean Hannity as "charismatic" is obviously too biased to ever be considered at all credible as a TV critic.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:50 PM

9. Key difference

Fox LIES. Political slant is one thing, lying another.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:11 PM

16. Ex-actly.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:53 PM

10. Fox has hell of a lot more than two former Bush Administration officials on the payroll.

So I fail to see how Gibbs and Axelrod could make MSNBC "worse".

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:54 PM

11. Fox, CNN, MSNBC

They are all God awful. Is Fox worse? Porbably and that is saying a lot.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:01 PM

12. Fox lies. MSNBC just ignores the most important issues of the day.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:07 PM

14. 15 hours a week hosted by a republican

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If Fox has the equivalent, I'd like to know about it.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:14 PM

17. I agree with the "worse than Fox" part, but for a very different reason

They have honestly left leaning hosts, but they also only allow them to go only so far. They don't tell them what to say. They *do* tell them what *not* to say.

I have said a lot about this over the years and don't have enough energy to say much more right now.

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Response to alp227 (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 12:19 AM

19. Is there really an equivalent to Sean Hannity on MSNBC?

Really for as far crazy left leaning as people claim they are, the major hosts aren't all that wild eyed - are Ed and Racheal really that extreme? I don't think even Al Sharpton for all his controversy of the past is that far out there...

I haven't watched the channel in a while since I haven't owned a TV in sometime, but Rachael always sounded intelligent, rational, and pretty reasonavle. Ed was a bit grating for me, but I heard nothing that out of the mainstream from him.

As for Axelrod and Gibbs being on the channel, so what? Rove is a contributor on Fox as well as many others from the Bush administration. MSNBC is not funded by the government. It's a private entity. If he doesn't like it, he can change the fucking channel.

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