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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:50 PM

So I Hear That They're Blaming The Down Stock Market Today On Italy.....

and their financial problems.

Nothing about the upcoming sequester and the effect it will have on the economy. I'm sure that Wall Street is cool with the sequester. (sarcasm)

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Reply So I Hear That They're Blaming The Down Stock Market Today On Italy..... (Original post)
global1 Feb 2013 OP
Cleita Feb 2013 #1
Berlum Feb 2013 #2
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #3
frazzled Feb 2013 #4
pampango Feb 2013 #5
Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #10
Warpy Feb 2013 #6
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #7
onenote Feb 2013 #8
Yo_Mama Feb 2013 #9

Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:54 PM

1. Mercury is retrograde for the next three weeks and there is a full moon.



Kinda makes you wonder.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:58 PM

2. Oh my...

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:04 PM

3. We know the real reason: because Michelle Obama appeared on the Oscars!1!!

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:09 PM

4. Blame it on the Bossa Nova (with its magic spell)

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:18 PM

5. Who knows for sure, but I think it was up quite a bit this morning when the left wing candidate was

thought to be winning. When Berlusconi's party narrowed that lead in the parliament and won more votes in the senate, things went down, especially in the Italian and other stock markets. Even Italy's financial sector would rather see a left-of-center government than to have a right-winger like Sylvio back in power.

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Response to pampango (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:44 PM

10. It's not Berlusconi really, it's Grillo

The results were worse for the Bersani bloc than anyone had believed, but very good indeed for Grillo. The avowed agenda for his Five Star Movement is to shut down whatever government is formed and force another election by the end of summer.

So the Whole-Euro thing is quite in doubt at this moment.

It really was Italy that took the stock market down. When news of unexpected result hit, bond markets in Europe and the US were affected.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:24 PM

6. Bollocks. There was a huge surge in the dollar against the Euro

but there was an equally big surge against the Loonie. That means institutional investors in Europe and Canada were profit taking. The dollar fell against the Yen, so the Japanese will be buying bargains, probably overnight in pre market trading.

Wall Street doesn't give much of a shit about the sequester and won't until corporate profits go way down. Then they'll start to care. Sort of.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:33 PM

7. It's all about Mt. Etna!! nt.

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:35 PM

8. The market has been aware of the sequester for some time

I don't think traders just woke up this morning and said, "hey, what's this sequester thingy?"

The market rose by around 100 points on Friday. Was there some news on Friday indicating that the sequester was going to be avoided that I missed?

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Response to global1 (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:42 PM

9. It was Italy

Markets were up and then the news reversed, and they collapsed. Treasuries gained hard.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/25/us-italy-vote-idUSBRE91M0EB20130225

The big deal here is that Italy has very high debt, and if the voters won't go along with the plausibility program, Europe is going to see more hassles. The ECB might have to start buying Italian and Spanish bonds again.

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