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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:17 PM

Why "Argo" winning matters.

The mythology of the Right is that a tough talking b-movie actor caused Iran to release the hostages.

Keep in mind that Republicans actually BELIEVE their own mythology and since then, every time the subject of the Middle East comes up they all talk tough because they believe it worked before. This has devolved into a game of who can talk the toughest and many Democrats have joined in. "Hey! Listen to me! I can talk tough just like a Republican!"

The media has perpetuated the myth that Carter was "weak" and Reagan was "strong" and that's why Iran released the hostages. They have ignored the October Surprise and Iran Contra. It's like those never happened.

"Argo" will address some fundamental believes amongst the Villagers.

But never fear, Tweety will still say, "I don't get it."

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Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 OP
Exultant Democracy Feb 2013 #1
dipsydoodle Feb 2013 #4
Rider3 Feb 2013 #2
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #16
Dawgs Feb 2013 #3
roody Feb 2013 #6
Dawgs Feb 2013 #10
Dawgs Feb 2013 #11
Dawgs Feb 2013 #12
JI7 Feb 2013 #18
justiceischeap Feb 2013 #7
Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #13
progressoid Feb 2013 #19
Dawgs Feb 2013 #5
Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #14
Dawgs Feb 2013 #15
in-the-hall Feb 2013 #8
LiberalArkie Feb 2013 #9
kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #17

Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:20 PM

1. Now we just need a movie about the US backed coup against Mosaddeq to win an Oscar,

Then people might actually start getting a hint about the real history of the region.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:26 PM

4. Good analogy

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:21 PM

2. That is so correct!

It'll be interesting to see how this pans out.

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Response to Rider3 (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:06 PM

16. Republicans still wanted to buy Iranian oil during the crisis.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:25 PM

3. I wouldn't use the movie Argo for historical accuracy.

Unless you want to give most of the credit to the Canadians.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:29 PM

6. That is what Jimmy Carter said. He might know.

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Response to roody (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:31 PM

10. Love JC, but ACTUAL history is that Canadians were responsible for getting Americans out, not CIA.

And, what happened with the six was completely unrelated to the hostages being released.

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Response to roody (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:32 PM

11. He said what? n/t

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Response to roody (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:34 PM

12. Here's the actual quote from Jimmy Carter on the historical accuracy of ARGO.

In a CNN interview, President Carter addressed the controversy by stating: "90% of the contributions to the ideas and the consummation of the plan was Canadian. And the movie gives almost full credit to the American CIA. And with that exception, the movie is very good. But Ben Affleck's character in the film was... only in Tehran a day and a half. And the main hero, in my opinion, was Ken Taylor, who was the Canadian ambassador who orchestrated the entire process."

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Response to roody (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:16 PM

18. Jimmy Carter also said it was a great Movie and he Hoped it would win

which it did. i think Ben Affleck commented on this and it was about point of view and telling the story from the american side. but it wasn't some made up shit like republicans do .

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:29 PM

7. Yes, from what I understand quite a bit of Argo was fictionalized. nt

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:40 PM

13. Actually, all you have to do is revisit the era to send Republicans into a tizzy...

They know the facts are against them.

As usual.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:23 PM

19. Yup.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:27 PM

5. What did the story of Argo, real or movie version, have to do with release of hostages? n/t

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:42 PM

14. Don't mess up the point

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:55 PM

15. No disrespect to anyone. Just want the facts to be clear.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:30 PM

9. You are so correct. Carter was a great president, I always thought so.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:09 PM

17. Ditto!

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