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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:05 PM

Conservative Democrat attends Jewish holiday party in BLACKFACE "basketball player" costume.

What. The. Fuck. I thought this was a hoax just now until I searched Google News. Here is Dov Hikind when he's NOT in blackface:


http://heebmagazine.com/about-that-blackface-purim-costume/43347
Ahh Purim. A time for celebration, partying, and, in the case of New York City assemblyman Dov Hikind: Staggeringly stupid racial insensitivity.

You see, while most Purim partiers keep their costumes within the realm of “silly revelry”, Assemblyman Hikind went another route. As host of a purim party in his Brooklyn home, Hikind spent the holiday dressed as a Basketball player. Sounds innocuous enough, until you realize that for Hikind, “a Basketball player” mean a jersey, an afro wig, and a layer of blackface makeup. As reported by Politicker, a professional makeup artist was used to transform the 62 year old Brooklyn assemblyman into this morning’s “Are you fucking kidding me?” headline.



Hikind, a longtime powerhouse in local New York politics – particularly within Brooklyn’s orthodox Jewish communities – is no stranger to being on the wrong side of controversy. The conservative Democrat lobbied the NYPD to begin a policy of racial profiling, and recently came out against same-sex marriage, for fear that it would lead to incest. And then there’s Hikind’s involvement in Meir Kahane’s Jewish Defense League, an FBI-listed terrorist organization which, while famous for its anti-Arab incitement, spent its early days agitating Black Panther groups in New York city. How charming.


I'm calling it right now: He gets away with it.

PB

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Reply Conservative Democrat attends Jewish holiday party in BLACKFACE "basketball player" costume. (Original post)
Poll_Blind Feb 2013 OP
patrice Feb 2013 #1
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #4
patrice Feb 2013 #13
bvar22 Feb 2013 #23
patrice Feb 2013 #25
bvar22 Feb 2013 #29
patrice Feb 2013 #31
bvar22 Feb 2013 #33
patrice Feb 2013 #34
bvar22 Feb 2013 #36
ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2013 #30
patrice Feb 2013 #32
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #27
Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #2
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #7
Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #8
noiretextatique Feb 2013 #9
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #15
cali Feb 2013 #20
Poll_Blind Feb 2013 #21
DavidDvorkin Feb 2013 #24
Hard Assets Feb 2013 #3
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #5
Hard Assets Feb 2013 #14
msanthrope Feb 2013 #6
KamaAina Feb 2013 #35
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #10
cali Feb 2013 #11
RB TexLa Feb 2013 #12
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #16
cali Feb 2013 #17
Hekate Feb 2013 #18
sakabatou Feb 2013 #19
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #22
LiberalAndProud Feb 2013 #26
kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #28
Heywood J Feb 2013 #37
Pterodactyl Feb 2013 #38

Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:12 PM

1. This. MUST. end. - GREEN Party where the hell ARE you, when you can actually do something???

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Response to patrice (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:17 PM

4. A few elections ago, both the Republicans and Democrats nominated Hikind.

There was however a Conservative Party challenger, who I would've voted for (no choice.) Hikind still won with 97%.

The problem is that Hikind's district is mostly just cultists who perform ritual circumcisions and then have someone suck the blood resulting from the baby with their mouths, seriously. And that's not even getting started on how they treat women...unfortunately there's no chance of ousting him with anyone, even a Republican, unless his district gets chopped up (which would give undue influence to his cult in neighboring districts...), or the city quits subsidizing their lifestyle and they leave.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:13 PM

13. No doubt about it; what calls itself "the Left" generates its very own brand of extremists,

similar to those on the Right, but different in their own way.

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Response to patrice (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:42 PM

23. You will have to connect the dots form me.

I must not be very smart,
because I can't see HOW "The Left" is responsible for this.

This "Conservative Democrat" is an incumbent,
and enjoys the protection and benefits of The Party establishment.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:12 PM

25. I was referring to ButterflyBlood's anecdote; perhaps they aren't "Lefties". Labels are used

all kinds of ways, so you can find extremists with a wide mix of other traits.

I am acquainted with lots of people whom others could refer to by means of a wide range of different labels, but I don't know of anyone specifically like BB's example, since I don't pry into things about the people I encounter and, since we're together for other reasons, they don't usually offer that kind of information and apparently are not seeking homogeneity or conformity or certain kinds of social approval in our relationships and neither am I. However, I'd have to be naive to think some of the people in my wider community are what is referred to as "average" in most regards. That's okay with me, because I care about behavior, so what people think about anything other than what we are doing together is not my concern unless it manifests in behavior such as ridicule, or other valid behavioral instances.

It really is just the "laws" of rational probabilities that for any given trait, of whatever degree/extremeness, you will find that trait distributed in various frequencies throughout different groups. It can be to some degree more highly associated with some cohorts, but that does not mean that, whatever the trait is, it is exclusive to those groups. That's the difference between labels and empirical reality. It's the sort of thing that teachers are supposed to deal with functionally and professionally. I'm in that habit, because I taught high school, but also because I am an older "tweener" in an enormous, multi-generational, family that spans a couple or three sub-levels in the middle (income) class.

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Response to patrice (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:42 PM

29. I still don't see the dots connecting.

How did you get from THAT^


to THIS?
"No doubt about it; what calls itself "the Left" generates its very own brand of extremists,"


... or did the irresistible urge to Bash the Left just overwhelm you,
and you couldn't pass up the opportunity
no matter HOW irrational?

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:13 PM

31. Do you know what frequency distributions are in basic descriptive statistics? Are you saying there

is 0 probability that what calls itself "the Left" (especially in an anonymous environment like the internet) has any extremist traits in any degree whatsoever, and that there is 0 probability that any of said traits could produce what at least appears to be, or could outright actually be, intolerance toward different others, and that there is 0 probability that those intolerant behaviors could be dysfunctional for themselves and/or for those different others in any way? Or are you saying that none of that matters?

Is it good for people to just stand by while the truth is accidentally or intentionally obfuscated? Isn't that called Plausible Deniability? If it's only one or a few hurting or handicapping others, accidentally or intentionally, is that okay if the doers are wearing the right label? belong to the right power clique? I know there isn't that much that most of us can do to change others, because they must change themselves, but that doesn't mean that we should accept taboos that amount to "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" and presto-chango everything is okay. The opposite of such social taboo-observance is called a "peace check" in some affinity cohorts, but such honest reality testing behaviors also have their places in many other kinds of collective endeavors, such as quality assurance, professional de-briefings, and any other effort to break group-think. Am I supposed to believe that what calls itself "the Left" engages so honestly and completely in this kind of self-reality testing and, hence, has no mis-understandings or negative intent of the same type as that characterized in OP, simply because someone says it is "the Left"? Believe it or not, I actually have seen real reasons in the real world that justify these questions.

Sorry about all of the questions, though, I'm struggling with why it appears that you don't understand the assumptions behind false dichotomies like "Left" good, Right bad, so all we have to do is divide up in our respective camps, whether they are actually authentically one's affinity group or not, and problems solved. It's such an obvious oversimplification of real flesh and blood and extremely complex humans; it's disrespectful of their humanity.

If you really care what my frame of reference is here, I'd like to suggest readings in cognitive development and including the biology of behavior, but a more specific reference for an applied form of those phenomena can be seen dating from Aristotle's Lyceum, through J.J. Rousseau's Emil, and can be seen in the learning theories of John Dewey and, most particularly in Paulo Freire's Pedagogy of the Oppressed especially in his references to what he called praxis, which is grounded in just being aware of how one internalizes the oppressor.

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Response to patrice (Reply #31)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 01:36 PM

33. In other words,

....couldn't resist the knee jerk Left Bashing.

Got It!

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #33)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:17 PM

34. Pot, kettle. Got that too. If you refuse to respect others, you don't deserve respect. Someone

might deign to be gracious enough to give it to you, but your claim of privilege does not require anything from anyone else, because people really are free to have our own thoughts whether you agree or not.

Ask anyone who has been around the streets, what calls itself "the left" appears to have rather strong elitist and fascistic tendencies.

ALL of us have our power inclinations, but the most insidious are those who refuse to admit that about themselves in the name of ideological purity.

FOUR fingers!!!!

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Response to patrice (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:59 PM

36. You surrebdered your right to Moral High Ground,

when you reflexively and erroneously Bashed-the-Left prior to investigation
in your original post.

Your ideological purity slur is noted.
That is a desperate attack that amounts to surrender for someone who knows they have NO cogent argument.

Those who disparage Pure Ideals lack a Moral Compass.
I will continue to push for movement toward the Pure Ideal of Traditional Democratic Party Values,
and use those Pure Ideals to measure progress, or lack of progress.

"In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

*The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

*The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

*The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

*The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

*The right of every family to a decent home;

*The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

*The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

*The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being."---FDR



--bvar22
not ashamed to STAND with FDR for the above Pure Ideals.



Of course, you and the other "Centrists" are free to STAND for whatever they tell you is In-the-Middle.

Centrism!!!.... because it is so EASY!
You don't have to STAND for ANYTHING,
and get to insult those who DO!




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Response to patrice (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:19 PM

30. This guy is not a "lefty", nor are his constituents

He's a member of an Orthodox religion that I guess believes they are "conservative" for performing ancient rituals that sound like they should get you arrested. But either way, they aren't "lefties".

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Response to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 08:25 PM

32. Thanks for the clarification. I should have asked instead of assuming the district's problem was

with "Lefties" who weren't making it real at the polls.

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Response to patrice (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:38 PM

27. HE SUPPORTED MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT. NOT KIDDING.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:13 PM

2. UPDATE-->SeattlePI: "NY assemblyman stands by blackface, Afro costume"

Talk about doubling-down on the stupid...
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/article/NY-assemblyman-stands-by-blackface-Afro-costume-4306410.php
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — A veteran New York Assemblyman on Monday stood by his decision to wear blackface makeup, an Afro wig and a basketball jersey to a costume party in the face of criticism he called "political correctness to the absurd."

Democratic Assemblyman Dov Hikind wrote on his blog Monday that he doesn't understand the criticism swirling around Albany and doesn't know why anyone would be offended by the costume he wore to a party he recently held at his home in Brooklyn to celebrate the Jewish holiday of Purim.

Hikind hired a makeup artist and wore an orange basketball jersey, sunglasses and an Afro at the celebration that traditionally includes costumes.

"I am intrigued that anyone who understands Purim — or for that matter understands me — would have a problem with this," said Hikind, a Jewish leader in New York. "This is political correctness to the absurd. There is not a prejudiced bone in my body."




Nomatter. He could go out and give a press conference about in blackface- and he'll still get away with it.

PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:25 PM

7. I wonder if he'd have the same reaction to a Black man dressed as a Hasidim.

Hmmm.

All in good fun, yanno.

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:36 PM

8. Funny you should bring that up! You're never going to believe this but TWO WEEKS ago...

...designer John Galliano was photographed leaving his apartment in what Dov Hikind perceived to be clothing which was loosely similar to hasidic attire.

I'll let Failed Messiah blog pick it up from there:
There was no word last night from Hikind about how he would react if, say, a non-Jewish man dressed kinda like a hasid.

But thankfully, we do have a pretty good idea of what Hikind would do if a non-Jew dressed in a way that could be understood to be play on hasidic attire, because the issue came up two weeks ago when designer John Galliano (left) did just that, enraging Hikind.


And when Hikind is enraged, he spews.

“Who is he mocking?. The way the socks look, the jacket, the peyos . . . My question is, who’s he laughing at?

“If it was just anyone else, I wouldn’t know what to say. But considering who this guy is, considering his background and what he’s said in the past, let him explain it to all of us: Are you mocking us?,” Hikind blustered to the New York Post.

It turned out that Galliano was wearing other designers' clothing and was not trying to make fun of hasidim. Even Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League came to Galliano's defense.

But Hikind did not apologize for his outburst.


When Abe Foxman is coming to John Galliano's defense over some accusation you made, you know you've crossed the line!



PB

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:51 PM

9. it's okay when i do it, but not okay if others do it

typical entitled, hypocrite.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:21 PM

15. Yeah, I saw that.

Not knowing Galliano's history I would have said that he was just dressed very oddly, but since I do know some of his stupidity, seemed more than slightly mocking.


Hikind is the worst type of politician.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:40 PM

20. Just as an aside, but Galliano's get up in light of his undeniable anti-semitism

is also pretty grotesque.

<snip>

Galliano was convicted in France of making racist slurs after a 2011 rant caught on video in which he hurled insults at a group of Italian women in a Paris bar, saying, “I love Hitler... People like you would be dead. Your mothers, your forefathers would all be gassed.” This incident happened just before Paris Fashion Week for Autumn/Winter 2011-12.

<snip>

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Response to cali (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:23 PM

21. I assumed that was already well-known, hence the juxtaposition of Foxman defending him. nt

PB

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Response to Ikonoklast (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:07 PM

24. Hasidim is the plural

Hasid is the singular.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:13 PM

3. Dov Hikund represents my in-laws

 

and I *know* he's an idiot.

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Response to Hard Assets (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:18 PM

5. Are your in-laws Hasids?

I wonder what the non-Hasids are like in that district, must be a weird place for them.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:20 PM

14. No. They are religious Jews, but they are not Hasidic

 

Many of my cousins are Hasidic (including my uncle in Lakewood, NJ).

My in-laws are more of the traditional Orthodox side.. and live in Boro Park.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:23 PM

6. I knew who this was before I clicked. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #6)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 02:23 PM

35. I should have

Geez, what a moran.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:53 PM

10. Hypocritical jerk. nt.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:53 PM

11. Ugh and double ugh. What a racist creep. Of course, he's an all around creep

so not surprising.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:54 PM

12. That is offensive but it is not "blackface"

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Response to RB TexLa (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:22 PM

16. Really. Show us how you do it, then.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:27 PM

18. Dressing up as Queen Esther for Purim wasn't good enough for him?



Dumb-de-dumb-dumb--- Dumb!

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:27 PM

19. Ugh

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:25 PM

22. Anti-black racism isn't exactly unheard of amongst his constituents. nt

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:34 PM

26. The guy really needs to buy a clue.

The local report of his 'apology' is jaw-dropping as well.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/25/assemblyman-dov-hikind-shows-up-to-purim-party-in-blackface/

“It was not meant to hurt anyone,” Hikind said at a Monday afternoon news conference, “And to those who were? I’m sorry.”

...

“The idea was to look out-of-character, to look different, for people not to recognize me,” Hikind told 1010 WINS. “If I had to do it all over again I’d do exactly the same thing, without a doubt.”

Hikind said he is “flabbergasted” by the reaction his costume has received and said “everything was done in good taste.”

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:38 PM

28. He wishes! nt

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 06:09 PM

37. In that second picture,

is that an ass crack under the orange thing?

I wonder what he thought of Prince Harry's Halloween get-up? After all, Harry said it was all in fun.

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Response to Poll_Blind (Original post)

Tue Feb 26, 2013, 09:58 PM

38. I wished I could vote that jerk out of office.

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