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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:52 AM

 

The Onion apologizes

Posted on Facebook:

Dear Readers,

On behalf of The Onion, I offer my personal apology to Quvenzhané Wallis and the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for the tweet that was circulated last night during the Oscars. It was crude and offensive—not to mention inconsistent with The Onion’s commitment to parody and satire, however biting.

No person should be subjected to such a senseless, humorless comment masquerading as satire.

The tweet was taken down within an hour of publication. We have instituted new and tighter Twitter procedures to ensure that this kind of mistake does not occur again.

In addition, we are taking immediate steps to discipline those individuals responsible.

Miss Wallis, you are young and talented and deserve better. All of us at The Onion are deeply sorry.

Sincerely,

Steve Hannah
CEO
The Onion

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Reply The Onion apologizes (Original post)
HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 OP
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #1
demwing Feb 2013 #12
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #109
Orrex Feb 2013 #13
Enrique Feb 2013 #15
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #17
AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #67
Kelvin Mace Feb 2013 #93
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #110
Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #18
Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #28
alp227 Feb 2013 #36
Logical Feb 2013 #37
Hekate Feb 2013 #63
Codeine Feb 2013 #100
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #111
rhett o rick Feb 2013 #105
Laurian Feb 2013 #2
HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #21
truebrit71 Feb 2013 #34
Brickbat Feb 2013 #3
Taverner Feb 2013 #14
kysrsoze Feb 2013 #20
BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2013 #104
JustAnotherGen Feb 2013 #4
hedgehog Feb 2013 #9
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #11
MicaelS Feb 2013 #22
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #33
Whisp Feb 2013 #30
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #35
Whisp Feb 2013 #48
October Feb 2013 #65
Cha Feb 2013 #95
Deep13 Feb 2013 #59
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #5
Taverner Feb 2013 #16
JaneyVee Feb 2013 #31
Taverner Feb 2013 #96
JHB Feb 2013 #32
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2013 #40
JHB Feb 2013 #70
Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #6
hedgehog Feb 2013 #7
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #8
ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2013 #10
myrna minx Feb 2013 #19
RZM Feb 2013 #23
HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #25
RZM Feb 2013 #27
nxylas Feb 2013 #62
intheflow Feb 2013 #44
RZM Feb 2013 #78
TroglodyteScholar Feb 2013 #24
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #29
TroglodyteScholar Feb 2013 #98
otohara Feb 2013 #101
SidDithers Feb 2013 #26
Leslie Valley Feb 2013 #39
Gorp Feb 2013 #69
Duer 157099 Feb 2013 #38
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #41
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #43
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #49
RZM Feb 2013 #81
Renew Deal Feb 2013 #77
HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #47
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #50
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #42
intheflow Feb 2013 #45
intheflow Feb 2013 #46
FreeBC Feb 2013 #51
cali Feb 2013 #52
FreeBC Feb 2013 #66
morningfog Feb 2013 #71
oberliner Feb 2013 #97
ButterflyBlood Feb 2013 #54
FreeBC Feb 2013 #57
LanternWaste Feb 2013 #103
Whisp Feb 2013 #108
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #112
aint_no_life_nowhere Feb 2013 #72
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #56
FreeBC Feb 2013 #58
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #60
FreeBC Feb 2013 #61
devilgrrl Feb 2013 #64
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #114
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #113
LadyHawkAZ Feb 2013 #84
LanternWaste Feb 2013 #102
quinnox Feb 2013 #53
sufrommich Feb 2013 #73
quinnox Feb 2013 #74
sufrommich Feb 2013 #75
quinnox Feb 2013 #76
sufrommich Feb 2013 #79
quinnox Feb 2013 #82
exboyfil Feb 2013 #107
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #116
madville Feb 2013 #80
quinnox Feb 2013 #83
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #117
NCTraveler Feb 2013 #85
quinnox Feb 2013 #86
NCTraveler Feb 2013 #87
quinnox Feb 2013 #88
NCTraveler Feb 2013 #90
quinnox Feb 2013 #91
NCTraveler Feb 2013 #92
quinnox Feb 2013 #94
SemperEadem Mar 2013 #115
yurbud Feb 2013 #55
SCVDem Feb 2013 #68
Crabby Appleton Feb 2013 #89
jsr Feb 2013 #99
LWolf Feb 2013 #106
Number23 Mar 2013 #118

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:55 AM

1. Uh, sorry

The apology needs to come from the guy who wrote the post.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

12. Why?

Responsibility ultimately rests at the top, and this was a sincere effort by the Onion to right a wrong for which they were responsible.

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Response to demwing (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:01 PM

109. responsibility also rests with the person who set this shitstorm in motion

why should he be protected by anonymity?

If he's grown enough to do it, then he's grown enough to take his asswhippin' for it.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:07 PM

13. What good would that do?

I'd rather have a buck-stops-here apology from someone higher up the chain than from some asshole who clearly has no sense of what constitutes acceptable communication.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

15. i have the opposite attitude toward apologies

if the low-level tweeter had apologized, i might have said "sorry, I want to hear from the CEO".

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Response to Enrique (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:11 PM

17. The apology needs to come from both

people. And the writer needs to be fired.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #17)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:34 PM

67. How do you know the writer hasn't been fired already?

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #67)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:49 PM

93. I don't, but hopefully he has,

in which case The Onion has done everything that could be expected of it.

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Response to AtheistCrusader (Reply #67)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:05 PM

110. because the ceo said

they were 'disciplined', not 'terminated'.

plenty of companies have no problem saying the employee was fired: the Applebee's manager said their fired the waitress who posted the receipt of that tip dodging preacher; the owner of the store in Ny that falsely accused and frisked Forest Whitaker said that employee was fired.

The way that letter is written, it doesn't make it sound like anyone lost their job for this. And they should have.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:14 PM

18. That one may be scribbled on the back of a blank unemployment application

All of us at The Onion are deeply sorry.

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:34 PM

28. Likely the Writer is to busy packing his stuff up since he most probably got canned.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:54 PM

37. Lol, he didn't kill anyone. WTF is wrong with you? n-t

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Response to alp227 (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:23 PM

63. Actually, if I were QW's mama or agent I would make sure she never knew this happened...

... out there in the world of supposedly mature adults. No way would I subject her to the "apology" of some random adult jerk. As her mama I would hope to stand between her and the uglier aspects of fame for a few more years.

Just sayin'.

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Response to alp227 (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:22 PM

100. It was a fucking tweet, not a physical assault. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #100)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:07 PM

111. it was verbal assault against a 9 yr old innocent CHILD

unless verbally assaulting a child is fair game to you...

it'd be bad enough if it was done to a grown woman, but a CHILD?

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Response to Kelvin Mace (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:06 PM

105. I can see it now. "I want you to apologize before I fire you." Not sure the apology

would be sincere.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:57 AM

2. Good apology, not the usual, "if anyone was offended" crap.

I think the apology is sincere. It should be as I think that tweet did a lot of damage to The Onion's reputation. I know that as a fan of The Onion, I was taken aback.

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Response to Laurian (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:22 PM

21. I agree

 

that's what an apology should sound like, whether written or verbal.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:41 PM

34. Absolutely agree....

...none of the usual "sorry if we offended anyone" bullshit...

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:58 AM

3. I think that's an excellent apology. Well done, Onion.

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

14. Yep, that's what a real apology looks like

 

Taking responsibility, swift action, and policy change

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Response to Brickbat (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:21 PM

20. He was just kidding.

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Response to kysrsoze (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:00 PM

104. clarification please. Who are you saying was "just kidding"? n/t

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:59 AM

4. What did they tweet last night?

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:00 PM

9. Someone called Quvenzhané Wallis the "c" word.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:03 PM

11. They called a 9yr old girl the c word???!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

22. Yes, they did. n/t

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Response to MicaelS (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:40 PM

33. WOW. Classy apology at least. It seems like any of the writers probably have access to their Twitter

Maybe they'll moderate it from now on.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:36 PM

30. wwwwhat? !

 

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Response to Whisp (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:41 PM

35. Article about it

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57571025-93/the-onion-deletes-offensive-tweet-about-child-oscar-nominee

The other problem beyond it being so offensive is that it's also not even the slightest bit funny.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:58 PM

48. oooo. what the?

 

the guy/gal who wrote that must have been drunk or something.

that is way way way over the line. gawd!

thanks for the link.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:29 PM

65. I hadn't heard about this. How disgusting!

I'm speechless...


I thought a lot of last night's show was offensive and mainly, NOT funny, but this is completely wrong.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:24 PM

95. Wow.. was that ever evil Stupid.

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Response to hedgehog (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:19 PM

59. Ouch! Yeah, that's pretty well over the top. nt

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:59 AM

5. Anyone know the context of the tweet?

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:08 PM

16. They were trying to be ironic

 

FAIL at that

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Response to Taverner (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:38 PM

31. MAJOR Fail!

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:44 PM

96. If I didn't know any better, I would guess the writer was drunk

 

That seems like the kind of bad idea that only alcohol can inspire

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:38 PM

32. Didn't see it, but apparently there was a musical number that pulled a word switch...

...i.e. a lyric that pointed to something that would have rhymed with (Helen) "Hunt", but was intentionally flipped to "adorable".

Looks like twit tweeting for The Onion went for the "uncensored" version.

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Response to JHB (Reply #32)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:25 PM

40. Which makes it surprising they apologised to the Academy as well

since the Academy had laid the bait for the insult. I think the Academy could do with joining in the apology.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:49 PM

70. I think it's fine. Leave the Academy to do its own apologizing for thinking the bit was clever...

For the Onion, after the lowest of tweets the only route to take was the high road. Glad they did take it.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:59 AM

6. Very good apology. When I saw that 1st post I thought accidently gotten on Breitbart.com

Last edited Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:59 AM

7. That's what an apology sounds like!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:00 PM

8. Excellent. K&R n/t

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:01 PM

10. i was sure they had been hacked

that was way off base... even for them.

sP

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:16 PM

19. I appreciate this apology. That tweet was a horrible thing to say to a child, or to anyone for

that matter.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:23 PM

23. I gotta say, this groveling is kind of funny to watch

 

I think the tweet was wrong. Nobody should ever insult a child that way, ever. I don't care if it's satire or not.

But at the same time, The Onion has been around for quite a long time and they've pulled a lot of shit. I find it amusing that this is what makes them finally beg for forgiveness.

It would be interesting to see what the reaction would have been if they had mocked Trig Palin's Down Syndrome. Lisa Lampanelli did that at the Donald Trump Roast a couple years ago and it brought the house down. AFAIK, her career didn't suffer one bit.

It's fun trying to figure out where the lines are and what constitutes crossing them. It's interesting how quickly satirical humor and reactions to it can turn on a dime.

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Response to RZM (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:32 PM

25. It would be interesting to find out if they've ever apologized for anything before.

 

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:33 PM

27. I don't know. I'm not aware of them doing so

 

I'd guess they have once or twice, but I don't know.

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Response to RZM (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:23 PM

62. I've never heard of them doing so either

They've posted far more offensive stuff than that in the past, and not only have they not apologized, but anyone calling them out on it on Facebook or Twitter is usually barraged by their legion of sycophants saying "It's the Onion, stupid! The Onion can do no wrong! Having a functioning moral compass is so gay!" Or words to that effect.

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Response to RZM (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:46 PM

44. I think the apology stems from it being a two-fer offense:

1) using the "c" word, and
2) directing it at a minor.

If it had been a joke about the kid's dress or something it would probably would have gone unnoticed. If they'd used the "c" word toward Anne Hathaway or Halle Berry or whatever famous adult actress was on stage, it would have stirred some controversy because the "c" word is always controversial, but it probably wouldn't have elicited a retraction and apology. It was the potent combo affront to societal sensibilities that brought about this public apology from The Onion's CEO.

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Response to intheflow (Reply #44)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:48 PM

78. I think you're right. It's a double whammy n/t

 

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:28 PM

24. Now, where's McFarlane's apology for being generally unfunny and mean-spirited? n/t

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Response to TroglodyteScholar (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:36 PM

29. Seth is an awesome progressive

He skewers right wingers all the time, and quite deservedly.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:05 PM

98. Yep, he makes all of us look great, for sure.

Progressive or not, he's still unfunny and mean-spirited.

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Response to TroglodyteScholar (Reply #24)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:36 PM

101. I Bet Kate Winslet Cracked Up

when she heard the boobs song!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:33 PM

26. Good apology...nt

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:16 PM

39. But it's from the Onion

 

How do we know it isn't sarcasm?

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Response to Leslie Valley (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:43 PM

69. I know it isn't. The on-line edition two weeks after 9-11 is a good example.

 

The lead headline was "HOLY FUCKING SHIT!" with a picture of the towers burning. It also had a direct personal editorial from whoever was the CEO at the time explaining why they had been quiet for so long and why they eventually decided they had to parody the event.

In essence, it made it very clear that they in no way intended to belittle the event, but as parody is what they do, the choice was either to avoid all such events forever or continue doing what they do best and write a piece on it. It is exceptionally rare for The Onion to comment in such a way and this current apology is both warranted and sincere, as was the message in 2001.

There was no satire or humor in the comment currently in question - it was simply wrong. That's exactly what the apology says and without any "if" qualifiers. Your question is a good one and I'm sure it is difficult for anyone at The Onion to come off sounding sincere given what they do.



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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:07 PM

38. Bunk!

Wendell Pierce Wendell Pierce ‏@WendellPierce

@TheOnion Identify the writer. Let him defend that abhorrent verbal attack of a child. You call it humor I call it horrendous.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:45 PM

43. Read the thread; nobody fits your description.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:52 PM

81. And?

 

I really have no idea what you're getting at. And I guess I never will, because you got bounced from the thread for . . .

Using the c-word.

Is there a lesson in here somewhere? I think there is.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:42 PM

77. I haven't seen it on DU

I saw some defenders on Twitter last night.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:53 PM

47. Who's defending it?

 

Certainly no one on this thread.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:43 PM

42. It was vile. And it stood for an hour, until the complaints couldn't be ignored.

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:48 PM

45. It probably stood for an hour before it reached the CEO

or other person higher up the food chain than the imbecile employee who tweeted it. I think an hour is a remarkably short turn-around time for twitter (or any web site) moderation to happen - especially on a Sunday night.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:49 PM

46. The responses on The Onion's fb page are bizarre.

Half are people who refuse the apology and the other half are people calling Steve Hannah a wuss for offering an apology.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:05 PM

51. I thought it was funny.

 

The joke was the absurdity of calling a 9-year old a c***

lighten up people, it's the onion.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:07 PM

52. haha. it was just a joke.

nothing funny about calling girls or women that- particularly 9 year old.

I bet you think gas chamber jokes are just a hoot.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #66)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:52 PM

71. I read the link. I didn't find an example of anyone calling a woman

of an age "c***", done well or otherwise.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 05:52 PM

97. It was a "gas chamber" joke

Which apparently is ok?

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:09 PM

54. In this case it's a REAL 9-year old girl who is by all accounts a sweetheart

Most of The Onion's biting satire involves adult politicians or fictional people. Hurling such a vile insult at a sweet 9-year old is NOT the same thing.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:17 PM

57. that's the point

 

It wouldn't have been funny if was an adult. It would have been taken as an insult. It's only funny if you say it about someone where the idea of calling them that is completely absurd.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:42 PM

103. Is it then funny if I state "you have a great sense of humor..."?

"It's only funny if you say it about someone where the idea of calling them that is completely absurd....

Is it then funny if I state "you have a great sense of humor..."?

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #57)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:00 PM

108. you are a sick puppy.

 

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #57)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:17 PM

112. it takes a certain kind of a mind

to think attacking the honor of an innocent child is funny and then goes to idiotic extremes to defend their indefensible position.

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Response to ButterflyBlood (Reply #54)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:04 PM

72. 9 or 99 it makes me shudder at the crudity of modern society

Maybe I'm looking at the past through rose-colored glasses, and I know there were many things wrong with the society of my baby-boom generation, but it just jars my geezer sensitivities when I think that any person, child, adult, male, or female would be subjected to that kind of vile insult, whether it's funny or not. Using that kind of language is an unwarranted attack on someone who has done nothing to deserve it and seems more designed to shock the senses. You can be witty and funny without becoming uncivilized and without human decency.

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Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:18 PM

58. My mom just passed away last month.

 

She was actually very nice and that was very hurtful.

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #64)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:19 PM

114. I am your humble admirer!

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Response to devilgrrl (Reply #60)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:18 PM

113. well played

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:01 PM

84. The jury results aren't back yet

but whatever they turn out to be, I just thought you should know I was one of the votes to hide.

Enjoy your stay, and do try the pizza.

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Response to FreeBC (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:41 PM

102. The Onion engages in satire.... the tweet was not satire.

The Onion engages in satire.... the tweet was not satire.

Smarten up people... it's common sense.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:08 PM

53. meh, just silliness all round

 

The tweet was in bad taste, but it is not the end of the world. Jeezus. It is very trivial in the scheme of things. (also, the tweeter is within his first amendment rights, of course)

I love how this is being blown up from nothing into something Very Very Important.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:21 PM

73. Nobody claims it's the end of the world or

that it's "very,very important" in the grand scheme of things or that he had no first amendment right to say it.God, that 1st amendment argument is dumb.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #73)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:26 PM

74. the reason I mentioned it

 

is upthread there were people saying he should be penalized in some way, one suggestion was losing his job, just because he used a vulgar word and made a joke in bad taste. I think it is a good thing sometimes to remind people of the first amendment, which is one of the key foundations of our country.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #74)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:31 PM

75. The 1st amendment only applies if the government

becomes involved in trying to punish him for his tweet, it's got nothing to do with suffering the consequences of an employer punishing him for the tweet.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:40 PM

76. I disagree

 

If someone on their free time was punished by being fired by saying something like that by an employer who heard about it, I would say it is a first amendment issue.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:48 PM

79. It's still not a first amendment issue. Ironically

it would probably be federal privacy laws that might protect you from being fired for such a reason. This guy was on company time though and as such, they have a right to apologize for his bad attempt at humor and to punish him in some way for making a bad decision, just like any other job. The first amendment is pretty specific about who it's protecting you from, and it's protecting you from the government.

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #79)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:55 PM

82. If he was doing it as part of his job, then that is different

 

I'm saying if someone tweets things on their own free time, then I don't think employers should have a right to fire them for something like this. If that were the case, then we would all have to be very mindful of how we speak when off work, for fear of the employer hearing about it.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 09:57 PM

107. How about the guy who slapped the African American

infant and called her the n word on a flight to Atlanta? He lost his job with his company. He was not representing his company at the time. Would the employer have been justified in termination if he had not slapped the infant but only called it the n word?

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Response to quinnox (Reply #82)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:25 PM

116. I wouldn't be surprised if the onion is an "at will" employer

which means they can fire anyone "at will", especially if they do something as stupid and foolish as this on the company's public twitter account that has been seen by millions.

If they're signed in on the company account, then they're not on free time. Duh.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:52 PM

80. The first amendment doesn't protect employment

An employer, private or government, has every right in most cases to fire employees for expressing opinions if they chose too.

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Response to madville (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:57 PM

83. sure, but that sounds like it could result in a very juicy lawsuit

 

for the person being fired. You really think employers can and should get away for firing someone for their opinions?

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Response to quinnox (Reply #83)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:27 PM

117. no, but for using company media accounts to express their salacious opinions, yes they can.

The onion is most likely at "at will" employer, so they can fire "at will", especially when they're using company resources to
say extremely offensive things about an innocent 9 yr old child.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:05 PM

85. What does the first amendment have to do with anything being discussed? nt.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #85)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:08 PM

86. maybe you missed the post

 

I said I think its a good thing to remind people of the first amendment, because some upthread were saying this person should be penalized in some way for saying what he said.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #86)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:24 PM

87. I didn't miss the post, and the question still stands.

"I said I think its a good thing to remind people of the first amendment, because some upthread were saying this person should be penalized in some way for saying what he said."

People are penalized for the things they say every day in this country. People are held to account for the things they say. I don't think the first amendment means what you think it does.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #87)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:30 PM

88. so, what penalties do you think this person should face?

 

Jail time? A misdemeanor? A fine? What exactly. He did say a joke in bad taste and a vulgar word, I will admit to that evidence.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:39 PM

90. Why would he face jail time, a misdemeanor, or anything like that?

Point me to the person here claiming that?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:45 PM

91. tell me what you think the first amendment means

 

You are the one saying that people every day are penalized by what they say. So if you don't mean criminal penalties, what do you mean?

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Response to quinnox (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:49 PM

92. At this point I am confident you aren't being serious. nt.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #92)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:51 PM

94. ok, but I will continue to bring up the first amendment when I feel like it

 

Hope you don't mind...

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Response to quinnox (Reply #53)

Fri Mar 1, 2013, 10:21 PM

115. the first amendment

applies only to government infringing upon it, not social media

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:12 PM

55. Hey, tweeter, leave the kids alone!

except maybe Honey Boo Boo.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:39 PM

68. Dear Repubs

This is how to apologize!

Notice it does not include the phrase "If I offended anyone..."!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:36 PM

89. Fuck you Steve Hannah

Fuck you the onion

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 06:20 PM

99. That tweet was monumentally stupid.

Unbelievable.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 07:45 PM

106. No surprise.

I expected them to issue an apology. I think this is a good one.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Sat Mar 2, 2013, 03:32 AM

118. I know I'm late to the party but K&R

This is the first I've seen of this thread. The fact that the Onion could make such a vile, thoughtless comment is almost as nauseating as the number of people who "defended" it.

No person should be subjected to such a senseless, humorless comment masquerading as satire.

Exactly.

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