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Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:11 AM

NRA: No Research Allowed

http://inthesetimes.com/article/14589/nra_no_research_allowed/



Facts courtesy of the Gun Rights Facebook page.

NRA: No Research Allowed
BY Susan J. Douglas
February 21, 2013

Wonder why the NRA can say there is no evidence that gun control works? Because they’ve censored research on the subject.

In the aftermath of Newtown, we’ve learned that the NRA successfully lobbied Congress to suppress research on how to limit gun violence. Since 1996, according to one estimate, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has slashed firearms safety research by 96 percent. There was actual language in the CDC’s budget that said none of its funds could be used to “advocate or promote gun control,” and similar restrictions were imposed on research supported by other federal health agencies. The NRA deemed research on the relationship between teens, alcohol consumption and gun use, as well as the impact of gun storage practices, as “junk science studies.”

What got the NRA so agitated? A 1993 study by Arthur Kellermann et al. published in The New England Journal of Medicine that debunked the myth that having a gun in your home made you safer. The study showed that having a gun in your home increased the risk of one family member shooting another by almost threefold, compared to homes without a gun. The risk of suicide was nearly five times greater.

Having a gun in your home, in other words, “doesn’t convey protection.” It actually puts you and your family at greater risk. Indeed, from 1985 until 1996, the CDC funded a variety of studies all leading to the conclusion that stricter gun control was a public health priority. This was not good news for the NRA, so they succeeded in making sure such studies rarely saw the light of day. According to The Huffington Post, the NRA has spent over $28 million on lobbying since 1998, becoming one of the most feared and influential lobbies.

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Reply NRA: No Research Allowed (Original post)
unhappycamper Feb 2013 OP
Squinch Feb 2013 #1
xchrom Feb 2013 #2
etherealtruth Feb 2013 #3
Pakid Feb 2013 #4
G_j Feb 2013 #6
G_j Feb 2013 #5
Bjorn Against Feb 2013 #7
etherealtruth Feb 2013 #8
MadLinguist Feb 2013 #9
etherealtruth Feb 2013 #10
G_j Feb 2013 #11
bluethruandthru Feb 2013 #12
etherealtruth Feb 2013 #13
Overseas Feb 2013 #14
shcrane71 Feb 2013 #15
alarimer Feb 2013 #16
libodem Feb 2013 #17

Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:38 AM

1. Kick

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:39 AM

2. du rec. nt

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:52 AM

3. "What got the NRA so agitated?"

" A 1993 study by Arthur Kellermann et al. published in The New England Journal of Medicine that debunked the myth that having a gun in your home made you safer. The study showed that having a gun in your home increased the risk of one family member shooting another by almost threefold, compared to homes without a gun. The risk of suicide was nearly five times greater. " From the article.

http://www.examiner.com/article/american-academy-of-pediatrics-says-guns-do-not-belong-homes-with-children
"In spite of the popularity of firearms in the United States scientific studies suggest that the health risk of a gun in the home is greater than the benefit. No credible studies indicate otherwise. The has been overwhelming evidence that a gun in the home is a risk factor for completed suicide and that gun accidents are most likely to occur in homes with guns. And there is compelling evidence that a gun in the home is a risk factor for intimidation and for killing women in their homes. Furthermore, it appears that a gun in the home may more likely be used to threaten intimates instead of to protect against intruders."

One would think if the NRA was correct they would welcome more and more research to validate their position ....?

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:53 AM

4. Just think about what could happen if even more of Corporate America gains this kind of power

No more research on anything that might link them to disease of any kind. After all their making money is far more important than protecting us! 4 Million people holding 300 Million plus people hostage so that the gun makes can maximize there profits. Now not every member of the NRA is nuts but there spokesman sure is as all those who are waiting for the chance to murder the rest of us in there paranoid fantasy of over throwing the US government!

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Response to Pakid (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:12 AM

6. +100

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:56 AM

5. K&R

I've heard people here denying this was true.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:16 AM

7. That graphic is just plain stupid

Has there ever been a day in recent history in which there were zero gun deaths in the United States? It looks like they made up a statistic by choosing not to count "those people".

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Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:19 AM

8. That is the result of "no research"

... when you rely on what you want to be factual (vs verifiable reality), you get just that : PLAIN STUPID

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:25 AM

9. Then there's the Tiehart Amendment

Last edited Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:29 AM - Edit history (1)

The Tiehart Amendment not only hampers epideimological research on gun violence such as CDC public safety studies, it also thwarts law enforcement data collection on gun deaths. It is a real stinker. The fact that it even exists is, to me, the most damning evidence that the US political class is eaten right thruogh with corruption. When you take in the fact that this amendent is an appropriations rider, the role of particular politicians as virus carriers of the social diesase that is corporatism is made pretty damn stark. I would just add my plea to my fellow DUers to change the limited place in public discourse on gun violence thatTiehart Amendement had. It really needs far more discussion and action.

here is the transcript of an interview on NPR that discusses it
http://m.npr.org/news/Politics/167694808

and here is what Mayors Against Guns have to say about its history and the current efforts at dismantling it.
http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/federal/tiahrt.shtml

and just for an Orwellian curlicue, here is a Media Matters report on a FOX broadcast which purported to show that Biden's efforts to curtail the Teihart Amendment are related to the "fast & furious" scandal. Isn't it always 1984 on Fox?
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2011/07/19/fox-pushes-tiahrts-conspiracy-to-eliminate-the/182538

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Response to MadLinguist (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:28 AM

10. Thank you for the post and links

I wish I could "recommend" a response post

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Response to MadLinguist (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:28 AM

11. great post

thanks!

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Response to MadLinguist (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:33 AM

12. This should be it's own thread! n/t

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:08 PM

13. Giving this an extra kick

It is important

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:12 PM

14. K&R. They have done their best to lobby against research funding.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:22 PM

15. Best not research the effects of gun control.

The findings could create experts who are in favor of gun control, and then gun sales will plummet.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:36 PM

16. They oppose research because it will tell them what they don't want to hear.

That guns are fucking dangerous.

This is the Republican position on science: don't study it so they can say "We have no evidence!"

Yeah, we have no evidence because we didn't do the fucking studies.

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Response to unhappycamper (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:07 AM

17. Thank you

For bringing this.

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