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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:10 PM Feb 2013

Why Is Everyone on the Internet So Angry?

Why Is Everyone on the Internet So Angry?

A perfect storm engenders online rudeness, including virtual anonymity and thus a lack of accountability, physical distance and the medium of writing

By Natalie Wolchover and Life's Little Mysteries

A perfect storm of factors come together to engender the rudeness and aggression seen in the comments' sections of Web pages, Markman said. First, commenters are often virtually anonymous, and thus, unaccountable for their rudeness. Second, they are at a distance from the target of their anger — be it the article they're commenting on or another comment on that article — and people tend to antagonize distant abstractions more easily than living, breathing interlocutors. Third, it's easier to be nasty in writing than in speech, hence the now somewhat outmoded practice of leaving angry notes (back when people used paper), Markman said. [Infographic: A Typical Day on the Internet]

[Niceness Is in Your DNA, Scientists Find And finally, Edward Wasserman, Knight Professor in Journalism Ethics at Washington and Lee University, noted another cause of the vitriol: bad examples set by the media. "Unfortunately, mainstream media have made a fortune teaching people the wrong ways to talk to each other, offering up Jerry Springer, Crossfire, Bill O'Reilly. People understandably conclude rage is the political vernacular, that this is how public ideas are talked about," Wasserman wrote in an article on his university's website. "It isn't."

Communication, the scholars say, is really about taking someone else's perspective, understanding it, and responding. "Tone of voice and gesture can have a large influence on your ability to understand what someone is saying," Markman said. "The further away from face-to-face, real-time dialogue you get, the harder it is to communicate."

In his opinion, media outlets should cut down on the anger and hatred that have become the norm in reader exchanges. "It's valuable to allow all sides of an argument to be heard. But it's not valuable for there to be personal attacks, or to have messages with an extremely angry tone. Even someone who is making a legitimate point but with an angry tone is hurting the nature of the argument, because they are promoting people to respond in kind," he said. "If on a website comments are left up that are making personal attacks in the nastiest way, you're sending the message that this is acceptable human behavior."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-is-everyone-on-the-internet-so-angry

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Why Is Everyone on the Internet So Angry? (Original Post) KoKo Feb 2013 OP
Road and Internet Rage kairos12 Feb 2013 #1
never read the comments on any YouTube video NightWatcher Feb 2013 #2
Agree. or Huff Post or WaPo or NYT and Yahoo. KoKo Feb 2013 #14
...or Democratic Underground elias7 Feb 2013 #16
I think some people intentionally try to stir things up AndyA Feb 2013 #32
I have found NYT comments sections/responses to articles fujiyama Feb 2013 #25
I can definitely vouch for this. Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #22
Youtube and Yahoo seem to bring out the worst fujiyama Feb 2013 #23
The remaining and continuing effect 4nic8em Feb 2013 #3
I'm not so sure about that. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2013 #9
WHAT'S IT TO YOU??!!! Nine Feb 2013 #4
F*ck off ... zbdent Feb 2013 #5
Perhaps it's because the internet is available. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #6
+1 HiPointDem Feb 2013 #7
That's a big part of it. greytdemocrat Feb 2013 #15
Yes, the causation works both ways. Jim Lane Feb 2013 #17
Lack of money, political folly and Republicans NV Whino Feb 2013 #8
Crossfire? frazzled Feb 2013 #10
In my experience, there seems to be as many angry,mean/pleasant, nice people in real life.. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #11
Agree...but, it's easier to avoid those types in Real Life than in KoKo Feb 2013 #18
It's rather odd... Kalidurga Feb 2013 #12
WE'RE NOT ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! johnp3907 Feb 2013 #13
Hey! Fuck you! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #19
Who wants to know??! theKed Feb 2013 #20
I think it's because we have so much money. Festivito Feb 2013 #21
because deep down inside, everyone is an asshole datasuspect Feb 2013 #24
truer words have never been spoken on the innertubes. loli phabay Feb 2013 #26
in include myself first and foremost among them datasuspect Feb 2013 #27
its important to know oneself and be true to oneself lol loli phabay Feb 2013 #28
to thine own self be true datasuspect Feb 2013 #29
LORLEAN!!! THIS LIBTARD WANTS TO NO WHY WERE SO ANGRY!!! HOW DO I TYPE IN THE BIG BOX LORLEAN?!!!!!! Ian David Feb 2013 #30
Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (GIFT) Scootaloo Feb 2013 #31

kairos12

(12,851 posts)
1. Road and Internet Rage
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:13 PM
Feb 2013

The anonymity of both the car and the computer give people license to act in very ways.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
2. never read the comments on any YouTube video
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:14 PM
Feb 2013

It could be a video of kittens and the comments will degrade into the nastiest name calling.

elias7

(3,997 posts)
16. ...or Democratic Underground
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 02:40 AM
Feb 2013

The tone here has become appalling over the past two years. Just plain nastiness from many who probably don't even realize they're being rude...

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
32. I think some people intentionally try to stir things up
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:41 PM
Feb 2013

I'm to the point where if I do respond, it's usually once and then I don't even read anything else they post.

Some try really hard to twist your words to make them something they can get outraged over.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
25. I have found NYT comments sections/responses to articles
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:29 PM
Feb 2013

relatively civilized compared to the others. I think the educational level of Times readers is a bit higher.

Yahoo and youtube are by far the worst and seem to bring out the absolute worst in humanity. But any news site that has responses on facebook are also really bad and display a lot of ignorance.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
22. I can definitely vouch for this.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:04 PM
Feb 2013

For example, just a while ago I read some comments of Justin Bieber's "Baby" video, just for the Hell of it, and it was like a magnet for bigoted slurs. A video doesn't even have to be about anything political; on most videos I read the comments on (especially comments on rap videos or videos of fights), there are always people getting called "n*gger", "coon", "f*ggot", "b*tch", etc. YouTube really does a shitty job at moderating its comments.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
23. Youtube and Yahoo seem to bring out the worst
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:25 PM
Feb 2013

Facebook comments sections are also full of idiotic responses.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
9. I'm not so sure about that.
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:53 PM
Feb 2013

Since the inception of the chat room I have see vile posts, and that is Clinton era.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,580 posts)
6. Perhaps it's because the internet is available.
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:44 PM
Feb 2013

People are frustrated in their daily lives and often do not have an outlet for their feelings. The internet is widely available, and so people use it to vent on.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
17. Yes, the causation works both ways.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:20 AM
Feb 2013

People who are on the internet are angry, for reasons noted in the OP.

But people who are angry are on the internet. Since before there even was an internet, it was noted that people were more inclined to speak up about what displeased them than about what pleased them. ("The purpose of language is to complain," or words to that effect, from Jane Wagner, The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe.) The internet doesn't fundamentally change this. People are more likely to post when they're moved to do so to express their negative, angry thoughts. On days when they're happy, they just read stuff, and leave the commenting to the people who happen to be ticked off at that time.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. Crossfire?
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:02 PM
Feb 2013

I had to laugh at that one. It hasn't been on for, like, ten years.

I miss it, damn it! (I'm expressing appropriate anger now, having merely thought of that nasty show.)

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
11. In my experience, there seems to be as many angry,mean/pleasant, nice people in real life..
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:28 PM
Feb 2013

...as there is on the web.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. Agree...but, it's easier to avoid those types in Real Life than in
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:58 AM
Feb 2013

places I like to visit on the web. And, yes...one can always avoid the comments, but many times there are informative comments that further discussion but mixed in are those by the angry, mean, misinformed or just plain trolls who make it difficult to separate the informative comments from the trash.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
12. It's rather odd...
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:45 PM
Feb 2013

I try to be nicer on the internet. My words are there for so many more people to see in just a typical exchange between me and another person. They may not be forever, but they hang around for a lot longer than the few minutes it takes me to type a response. I am also well aware there is another person who made the post I am responding to as well as I don't know how many other eyes.

It's affected my real life exchanges as well, I am a bit more gruff in real life, but I try to take other people's feelings into consideration. That is not my strong suit at all.

johnp3907

(3,730 posts)
13. WE'RE NOT ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:53 PM
Feb 2013

WE JUST SEEM ANGRY BECAUSE WE TYPE IN ALL CAPITALS AND USE A MILLION EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
21. I think it's because we have so much money.
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 04:32 PM
Feb 2013

It's worth hiring political hacks to hack and hack and hack.

Not to discuss and understand, but, rather to state improbabilities in order to get people to perform atrocities while the money is stolen off camera.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
30. LORLEAN!!! THIS LIBTARD WANTS TO NO WHY WERE SO ANGRY!!! HOW DO I TYPE IN THE BIG BOX LORLEAN?!!!!!!
Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:00 PM
Feb 2013
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