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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:46 PM

Secretary Of State John Kerry Is Visiting Nine Countries But Not Israel. What’s Up?

On February 24, 2013, the new secretary of state, John Kerry, leaves on his first trip abroad. He will visit nine countries, four in Western Europe and five in what is loosely defined as the Muslim, Arab world. But he will not visit Israel, even after intense speculation in Washington that Israel was a certain stop on his itinerary. What’s up?

The question is relevant, because it immediately stirs memories of what happened in 2009. In June of that year, just a few months into his historic presidency, Barack Obama visited Cairo for good and important reasons but then refused to take advantage of geography and make the short hop to Jerusalem. He might at the time have been angry about Israel’s settlements policy. The upshot was that Obama got off on the wrong foot in his dealings with Israel, and nothing much happened in U.S.-Israel relations for the next four years, even as the Mideast neighborhood itself became engulfed in uncertain democracy-building, violent upheavals and what looked like a determined Iranian move toward nuclear weapons.

Therefore, it was assumed that once Obama’s re-election was behind him and dreams of bringing peace to the Holy Land danced before his eyes, he would move quickly to improve relations with Israel, a necessary first step to masterminding a sensible American policy for a region in turmoil. And he did move. The White House announced that Obama would be going to Israel, Egypt and Jordan on March 20. When rumors circulated shortly after John Kerry became secretary of state that he would soon be visiting the Middle East, it was quickly assumed—incorrectly, as it turned out—that Israel would be one of his stops for at least two reasons: first, to show the Israelis that they are not going to be forgotten a second time by the Obama administration; and second, to lay the groundwork for Obama’s visit to Israel.

But Kerry will not stop in Israel. A number of reasons have been advanced, but none that make terribly much sense. First, Israel does not really have a government, since, after recent elections, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has not yet finished the complicated task of forming a new government. Second, since the president is going to be in Israel anyway in late March, what is the point of Kerry being there in early March? It’s argued that it is redundant, or it is putting too much pressure on Israel. Third, it’s Kerry’s way of telling the world that he will not allow the Palestinian-Israeli conundrum to cloud his vision of America’s place in the world. This is all sophisticated nonsense.

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Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
jaysunb Feb 2013 #1
joeybee12 Feb 2013 #2
greytdemocrat Feb 2013 #3
karynnj Feb 2013 #4
JI7 Feb 2013 #5
Ian David Feb 2013 #6
Fire Walk With Me Feb 2013 #7
NightWatcher Feb 2013 #8
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #9
Tx4obama Feb 2013 #10
Purveyor Feb 2013 #14
Agony Feb 2013 #11
Purveyor Feb 2013 #15
MrYikes Feb 2013 #12
OldDem2012 Feb 2013 #13
Horse with no Name Feb 2013 #16

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:48 PM

1. Don't they already have an office in the Capitol building ?

why bother....

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:50 PM

2. I guess it isn't Hagel who hates Israel, but Kerry

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:53 PM

3. A message.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:57 PM

4. Funny that the same pundits argued that it would be a mistake to go when they thought he was going

Because no advancement in the peace process could be achieved. The fact is that he knows all the Israeli power people well - and even Netanyahu was positiove about him when he was nominated and mentioned that Kerry had visited him during the period of morning for his dad - something he personally appreciated. (Kerry, or the staff member or adviser who suggested that realoly deserve credit.)

The fact is that Kerry has often been to Israel - and no one criticized Clinton, who had fewer earlier contacts when she did her first trip in Asia. (There are others attacking Kerry for not going to Asia.)

Here is a nice view of how the British ambassador to the US sees the trip - and Kerry. Far saner than our media - http://video.msnbc.msn.com/mitchell-reports/34510812#50908726

As Obama said when he was nominated, Kerry really does not need an introductory tour - hen was on SFRC for 28 years -part of the time heading the sub committee on the Middle east and near east and before that the Asia subcommittee.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:57 PM

5. he is going to visit at the same time OBama goes there

he was scheduled to go on this visit but they changed it so he will be going when Obama goes.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:57 PM

6. It's like his first fucking day on the job. Someone has a clear agenda. n/t

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:06 PM

7. Palestinian hunger striker Samer Issawi is at the edge of death and 800 other prisoners

 

are said to be joining him in hunger striking against the Zionist invasion. Tonight beginning at 8PM through tomorrow at 8PM, people are encouraged to fast in support.

Tweet_Palestine ‏@Tweet_Palestine

Israeli soldiers are invading Al Aqsa mosque firing tear gas at ppl praying for #SamerIssawi
pic.twitter.com/pggscSD36T via @Occupy2gether

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:08 PM

8. Israel is not the 51st state

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:17 PM

9. What's up? Maybe ten countries on one trip is too much, and he'll be there next month?

I know, it's crazy!

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:23 PM

10. Kerry will wait on Israel visit to accompany Obama in March. Article below


Kerry will wait on Israel visit to accompany Obama

John Kerry will tour the Middle East during his first foreign tour as U.S. secretary of state, but will visit Israel two weeks later with President Obama.

Kerry's itinerary, announced Tuesday for his Feb. 24-March 6 trip, includes Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar. In Italy, he will meet members of the Syrian opposition in the country's civil war.

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His spokeswoman, Victoria Nuland, said a visit was not appropriate now while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was forming his new government. Instead, she said, Kerry will accompany Obama during his trip to Israel next month.

"Given the fact that the government coalition negotiations in Israel are still under way, the secretary will be traveling there with the president when he visits later in the spring in lieu of making his own separate trip in February to Jerusalem and Ramallah," she said.

http://www.jewishjournal.com/nation/article/kerry_will_wait_on_israel_visit_to_accompany_obama






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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:39 PM

14. Thank god! I was deeply concerned that israel might impose some type of sanctions on us, like

stamping our welfare check to them "return to sender".

What a tragedy THAT would be, eh?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:23 PM

11. Fuck GoldmanSachs-BrookingsInstitute...

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Response to Agony (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:14 PM

15. Of course there are none of those 'types' in the President's administration. Nope...none at all.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:29 PM

12. My President should not forget how isreal treated him at election time.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:30 PM

13. Of all the things I'm most concerned about these days, this doesn't make the Top 100. nt.

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