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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:11 PM

Caught In Act: Priests are being blackmailed by male prostitutes who work at a sauna near Vatican

Michael Chase Walker
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The priests are being blackmailed by male prostitutes who work at a sauna in Quarto Miglio district near the Vatican http://thebea.st/YLXrOm

Oh boy.


“What’s coming out is very detailed X-ray of the Roman Curia that does not spare even the closest collaborators of the Pope.


Of all the rumors floating around about just why Pope Benedict XVI is hanging up his camauro, one has taken on a life of its own. According to several well-placed vaticanisti--or Vatican experts--in Rome, Benedict is resigning after being handed a secret red-covered dossier that included details about a network of gay priests who work inside the Vatican, but who play in secular Rome. The priests, it seems, are allegedly being blackmailed by a network of male prostitutes who worked at a sauna in Rome’s Quarto Miglio district, a health spa in the city center, and a private residence once entrusted to a prominent archbishop. The evidence reportedly includes compromising photos and videos of the prelates--sometimes caught on film in drag, and, in some cases, caught ‘in the act’.

The trio of cardinals who authored the report, known in the Italian press as the ‘007 Priests,’ were commissioned by Benedict to dig into the Vatileaks scandal that rocked the Holy See last fall when the pope’s butler, Paolo Gabriele, was convicted of stealing secret papal documents and leaking them to the press. The sleuthing cardinals ran a parallel investigation to the Vatican tribunal’s criminal case against the butler, but theirs was far more covert and focused not on the mechanics of the leaks, but on who within the Roman Curia might be the brains behind them. And, according to the leaked reports, what the ‘007 Priests’ found went far beyond the pope’s private desk. “What’s coming out is very detailed X-ray of the Roman Curia that does not spare even the closest collaborators of the Pope,” wrote respected Vatican expert Ignazio Ingrao in Panorama. “The Pope was no stranger to the intrigues, but he probably did not know that under his pontificate there was such a complex network and such intricate chains of personal interests and unmentionable relationships.”


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/22/priests-in-panties.html

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A potentially explosive report has linked the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI to the discovery of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, some of whom – the report said – were being blackmailed by outsiders.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry

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Reply Caught In Act: Priests are being blackmailed by male prostitutes who work at a sauna near Vatican (Original post)
kpete Feb 2013 OP
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #1
Angry Dragon Feb 2013 #6
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #7
REP Feb 2013 #9
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #10
REP Feb 2013 #12
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #13
REP Feb 2013 #15
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #17
REP Feb 2013 #18
snagglepuss Feb 2013 #2
longship Feb 2013 #5
kenny blankenship Feb 2013 #3
siligut Feb 2013 #19
Berlum Feb 2013 #4
Cooley Hurd Feb 2013 #23
Berlum Feb 2013 #24
Hulk Smash Feb 2013 #8
REP Feb 2013 #11
xchrom Feb 2013 #14
amandabeech Feb 2013 #26
Demoiselle Feb 2013 #16
joeybee12 Feb 2013 #20
notadmblnd Feb 2013 #21
Berlum Feb 2013 #22
derby378 Feb 2013 #25
hunter Feb 2013 #31
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #27
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #28
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #29
kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #30

Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:14 PM

1. Been going on since the beginning of the church...

People are not born to be celibate.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:50 PM

6. Priests have not always been celibate ........... they used to be able to marry

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:52 PM

7. Yes, now that you mention it....

so it's only been going on for 1,000 years.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:10 PM

9. Council of Trent, 1563

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Response to REP (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:14 PM

10. But there is also this...

1074-Pope Gregory VII said anyone to be ordained must first pledge celibacy: ‘priests first escape from the clutches of their wives.’


http://www.futurechurch.org/fpm/history.htm

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:18 PM

12. Yup - escape because they were married. And still getting married, until

CoT said can't be married before or after ordination.

Huge problem of church property being inherited by the offspring of priests, but it was those Protestants that really set them off.

Church history is a big fascinating blood and sex drenched read.

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Response to REP (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:21 PM

13. Did you see the section going back to the ninth century

about abortions and infanticides taking place in monasteries?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:31 PM

15. In which book?

I've read dozens on the Church.

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Response to REP (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:34 PM

17. I posted a link....

http://www.futurechurch.org/fpm/history.htm

Although I have read books on the histoey of the church...I am too lazy to look through the mess that are my bookcases...

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #17)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:40 PM

18. Coals to Newcastle

I think I've mentioned I know church history pretty well

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:21 PM

2. I wonder if this means that all potential Italian candidates for the Office are out

of the running.

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Response to snagglepuss (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:34 PM

5. As if nation of origin has anything to do with it?

Just putting this out there for consideration. Or, maybe celibacy might be the core of the issue.

As another poster here observed, maybe we weren't evolved to be celibate.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:33 PM

3. After all this time, why doesn't the Vatican have its own sauna?

Dear Mr. Pope, your staff on whom you rely to get things done, and I know they get it done since they run the largest charitable organization in the world, has some needs. You may not think highly of these needs. They may seem lowly, earthly, fleshly and temporal - not part of the grand, symmetrical, Celestial plan. Nevertheless they must be met. Instead of hindering them, you could be helping them. Happy priests are more productive priests. Think about it, okay?

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Response to kenny blankenship (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:41 PM

19. Right and staff it with male prostitutes

Are you being facetious?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:34 PM

4. Is Republican male prostitute Jeff Gannon involved?

He had lots of, um, experience, as the official Bush White House Republican Male Escort. It would be no surprise if he was also, um, taking care of the Vatican (R). The official Secret SERVICE logs show Gannon had over 200 visits to the Bush White House, including several unexplained overnighters.

Did he take his Republican services to the international market.

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Response to Berlum (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 08:46 PM

23. Guckert!

Oh, how I've missed him!

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Response to Cooley Hurd (Reply #23)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:14 PM

24. the Guckster (R)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:54 PM

8. Well, at least they ain't boys.

 

And how can you shame the clergy with homosexual prostitutes, when they've withstood the altar boy molestation scandal, apparently unscathed. Have people left the Church? Have they quit contributing to the collection plates? Have they started letting priests get married to, you know, females? Have they opened their priesthood to women? Have they changed their position on condoms? Has anything happened at all in the wake of that scandal? No? So what can we expect in the wake of this one?

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Response to Hulk Smash (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:15 PM

11. Don't you know that gay is a choice (and a demonic one at that)

Raping children is a disease or something needing mercy and a lot of cover-up, but teh gay is something else that is unforgivable.

Or so it would seem.

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Response to Hulk Smash (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:31 PM

14. Well that was homophobic... And stupid. Nt

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Response to Hulk Smash (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:41 PM

26. A recent post here on DU gave a list of attenance drops for the RC church

by country.

IIRC, all were down, but Ireland was down 90% to 4%.

Between the laundries and the pedophile priests, even the Irish have had enough.

I'm coming down with something nasty, or I'd look for the post for you.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:31 PM

16. I read that top line as "even the closet collaborators of the pope".

Which makes sense, too, sort of.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:42 PM

20. Damn! I've been to the Vatican twice and I never came

across this place...wish I had!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:07 PM

21. Yeah but why would the pope have to resign because of it

if he wern't involved intimately?

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #21)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 07:16 PM

22. It's his party house, and there's this thing called responsibility

The buck stops at the Big Guy. If the Vatican City became -- or continued as -- Swing City under his reign, then he does bear some responsibility. He's been hanging out with these dudes for decades.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:37 PM

25. I'm not Roman Catholic, so somebody please help me out here...

There are other churches, such as the Greek Catholic and Maronite churches, who recognize the Pope as the Vicar of Christ, and in so doing, they enjoy communion with the Vatican. In many of these non-Roman churches, priests are allowed to marry and even raise families.

If the Greek Catholics and the Maronites only disagree with the Vatican on a few minor doctrinal issues otherwise, what's the disadvantage in casting your lot with one of them if you feel a calling for the clergy?

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Response to derby378 (Reply #25)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:02 AM

31. I imagine it's like serving in the Coast Guard.

They don't get the aircraft carriers, submarines, and nuclear weapons like the Navy does.

Here's a web site, About Byzantine Catholics:

http://www.byzcath.org/index.php/about-us-mainmenu-60

I have some past positive experiences with them, although the relationship that brought me into that was sort of like a David Lynch version of My Big Fat Greek Wedding with a bloody ending and no wedding.

There's a small Byzantine Catholic community in our own city that meets in the chapel of the local Catholic school, but the majority religion here is Catholic with strong Mexican traditions, which is my wife's religious background. Our family is part of that community.

Personally I'm a heretic and I don't know why anyone would be called to be Catholic clergy at this point in the Church's history. I've met many wonderful Priests, but there are also a some who are dull warm bodies, and a few real stinkers. If the Church wants to survive in the USA and Western Europe they will have to accept women priests and they will have to accept married priests.

I'm not sure how much religion stuck to our kids, but I don't think they've been "called." Since they've both moved out I wouldn't be surprised if they've never attended Mass on their own. We don't pry or expect them to attend Mass during visits with us, but going to Mass is something we do with my wife's parents.

If I'm predicting the future I don't see young adult old grand-kids attending Mass with us. Frankly I'm not sure I see any of us attending Mass. If the corrupt "conservative" faction of the church prevails, the church may not survive.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:47 PM

27. All kinds of people like sex, who woulda known! Priests and all! Ain't that something!

And the rest, they lie.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:49 PM

28. "In drag"---How would they differentiate? ;-)

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #28)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:01 PM

29. LOL!!! Maybe hair styles than pointed hats?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:53 PM

30. Why does Ratzinger feel the need to resign over this?

It would be easy for him to just act against those involved.......

..........unless HE is one of those involved, complete with pics........

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