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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:38 PM

Gun Activists Warn Obama is Raising a Private Black Army to Massacre White Americans

SUBMITTED BY Brian Tashman on Friday, 2/22/2013 2:45 pm

Gun Owners of America president Larry Pratt appeared Tuesday on the Talk to Solomon Show alongside conservative blogger Greg W. Howard, of Twittergate fame, for another chance to spew anti-Obama conspiracy theories.

Pratt predicted that President Obama may begin confiscating guns in order to provoke a violent response to justify further oppression, which host Stan Solomon feared would lead to the imprisonment of hundreds of thousands of people.

Pratt once again insisted that Obama is acting like King George III, a sentiment with which Solomon concurred, saying, “That will happen quickly and they will wipe those people out to set an example.”

But Solomon wasn’t finished: “I believe they will put together a racial force to go against an opposite race resistance, basically a black force to go against a white resistance, and then they will claim anyone resisting the black force are doing it because they are racist.”

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/gun-activists-warn-obama-raising-private-black-army-white-massacre-americans


You know these "gun activist" remind me of the religious right. They're small in number, but loud and potentially dangerous.

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Reply Gun Activists Warn Obama is Raising a Private Black Army to Massacre White Americans (Original post)
SpartanDem Feb 2013 OP
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #1
angstlessk Feb 2013 #3
southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #12
Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #107
southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #108
Rhiannon12866 Mar 2013 #109
southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #110
geckosfeet Feb 2013 #2
Apophis Feb 2013 #19
BainsBane Feb 2013 #21
Robb Feb 2013 #25
geckosfeet Feb 2013 #64
BainsBane Feb 2013 #65
geckosfeet Feb 2013 #66
BainsBane Feb 2013 #69
geckosfeet Feb 2013 #71
OldEurope Feb 2013 #36
pipi_k Feb 2013 #48
JI7 Feb 2013 #57
freshwest Feb 2013 #97
NoGOPZone Feb 2013 #4
Taverner Feb 2013 #5
Paladin Feb 2013 #6
freshwest Feb 2013 #41
2ndAmForComputers Feb 2013 #73
freshwest Mar 2013 #121
IDemo Feb 2013 #7
rdharma Feb 2013 #8
Frustratedlady Feb 2013 #9
TxDemChem Feb 2013 #88
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #111
kimbutgar Feb 2013 #10
Joey Liberal Feb 2013 #11
vankuria Feb 2013 #28
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2013 #13
frylock Feb 2013 #14
Mopar151 Feb 2013 #24
freshwest Feb 2013 #42
Rozlee Feb 2013 #99
freshwest Mar 2013 #114
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #112
freshwest Mar 2013 #115
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #117
freshwest Mar 2013 #120
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #122
starroute Feb 2013 #15
freshwest Feb 2013 #43
bobclark86 Feb 2013 #92
freshwest Feb 2013 #94
gollygee Feb 2013 #16
treestar Feb 2013 #32
Jamaal510 Feb 2013 #17
John2 Feb 2013 #29
dixiegrrrrl Feb 2013 #51
smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #75
Initech Feb 2013 #18
Number23 Feb 2013 #20
alp227 Feb 2013 #22
countmyvote4real Feb 2013 #23
freshwest Feb 2013 #44
obama2terms Feb 2013 #26
rdharma Feb 2013 #27
Squinch Feb 2013 #30
freshwest Feb 2013 #45
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #113
freshwest Mar 2013 #116
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #118
IrishAyes Mar 2013 #119
treestar Feb 2013 #31
Iliyah Feb 2013 #33
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highplainsdem Feb 2013 #77
IrishAyes Feb 2013 #90
datasuspect Feb 2013 #39
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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:41 PM

1. So I guess that means Obama is going to fight himself.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:45 PM

3. No, only 1/2 of himself...?

The folks who believe it crap are the MOST DANGEROUS PEOPLE ON THE PLANET..which makes this type of crap very frightening!

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Response to angstlessk (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:11 PM

12. It should be one hell of a fight with himself. Your right. These nutjobs are projecting. I hope

 

the FBI is keeping an eye on these crazies.

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 07:15 AM

107. This has to be one of the stupidest things I've read in awhile, which is saying a lot

But your post made me think of the movie "All of Me" with Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #107)

Fri Mar 8, 2013, 11:39 AM

108. OMG this is so very funny. Thanks for the good laugh. Your right what a hell of a fight.

 

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Response to southernyankeebelle (Reply #108)

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 01:04 AM

109. This is what I pictured, LOL.

The concept is idiotic, but the movie (and Steve Martin) was hysterical!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #109)

Sat Mar 9, 2013, 07:27 AM

110. So true, so true.

 

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:45 PM

2. Why do people even bother citing this kind of vomit?

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:40 PM

19. I've also wondered that. The

 

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:40 AM

21. because it shows exactly what the pro-gun lobby is

Obviously. Naturally you want to censor everything that doesn't fit the misinformation you spread in support of merchants of death.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:52 AM

25. Zing. nt

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #21)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:40 PM

64. This is a group of marginalised nutbags. Taking them seriously and propagating their

nonsense is just whst they want.

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #64)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:44 PM

65. funny you should say that

Because you repeat some of the same things I've heard from Pratt, particularly the misinformation you spread about the success of gun control and frequency of gun violence.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #65)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:49 PM

66. What misinformation? Please, refresh my memory.

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #66)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:20 AM

69. Your ongoing shtick

about how the US have lower rates of violence than countries with gun control, which is blatantly false. I really don't care to rehash the same argument again. We've been through it twice and you still refuse to be honest. So that's where it stands.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #69)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:25 AM

71. I have never argured that. Clearly you have confused me with someone else.

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:33 PM

36. Because they have guns. nt

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:42 PM

48. Two guys in

different towns have rats in the walls of their homes.

One guy wants to know what the rats are up to.

The other guy wants to pretend the rats don't exist.

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:42 PM

57. because they are the ones opposing gun control

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Response to geckosfeet (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:44 AM

97. Anxiety. Checking how high the water in the swamp is prevents becoming gator food.

That's the reasoning for keeping an eye of things you don't like. It's the reason I used to listen to Rush and Alex to see WTH was going on. There is a lot going on that affects human behaviors. And how these people will vote. Used to be just the tip of the iceberg. Now it's gone mainstream.



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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:49 PM

5. These guys are fucking nuts!

 

Do they feel exempt from reality or something?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:50 PM

6. The GOA Is For Those Who Think The NRA Is Too Liberal On Gun Rights. Really. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:16 PM

41. Correct! 'Teh dronz r comin' Infowars crowd sez the NRA is FOR gun confiscation.

And every massacre is a hoax because Obama is comin' for their gunz, like he did in 2009. But this time, he really is comin'!!11!!!

To which I say, '4 REALZ ???'





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Response to freshwest (Reply #41)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:28 AM

73. Every right-wingery must have a group like that. Anti-choice has Army of God. Homophobia has the WBC

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Response to 2ndAmForComputers (Reply #73)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:08 PM

121. I used to not mind these groups so much, I figured they could all fight it out amongst themselves.

Without media attention, voting blocks or any real power to affect most people's lives, just raving in the dark. Counted on law enforcement catching and jailing them sooner or later. Didn't think of them as big-time terrorists as much as loud mouthed criminals or wannabes, lone wackjobs, soon to be caught. But they've gone mainstream. So many videos make the case this is going to be the 'new normal.' Meaning they will no longer be ignored by the majority who I see as the buffer zone to their insanity - or are they? Maybe this is media hype?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:55 PM

7. Just some good ol' boys,

never meanin' no cerebration.


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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:55 PM

8. "these "gun activists" remind me of the religious right......."

 

Because many of them are exactly that! ......... Branch Davidians ring a bell?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 03:59 PM

9. I keep thinking they can't get any worse, but...

they prove me wrong every time.

This is beyond incredible. How does Obama conduct himself so well when he knows what these idiots are saying and planning? Poor guy. I feel so sorry for him and his family for having to put up with this hatred.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:11 PM

88. I wonder the same thing

It has to get old. I hope PO's kids never read this stuff. I can only imagine how stressed they would be. Poor family.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:48 PM

111. Me2

The president's grace and courage under fire proves him to be one of the best. Remember when opponents used to say he was too untested and naive for the office? Well, they switched their tune pretty fast to calling him the antichrist, didn't they? Now the wingnuts who used to charge that he would be too easy for enemies to push around have changed their tune, claiming he wants to incite race war and hit the rebs with predator drones.

Personally I like Joe Biden's take on President Obama, who does play famously close to the vest. The VP warned, "Don't ever play poker with this man."

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:02 PM

10. The only people sowing the seeds of racial hatred is these clowns

And the right wing media of Fox, Rush and the others in the clown car. Wow I am really starting to believe these people have gone bat shit insane in their hatred of a black man in the white house. I see them frothing at the mouth with their hatred.

The only way black people will rise up is if they take their voting rights away.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 04:05 PM

11. Just when I think the GOP can't get any crazier............. n/t

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #11)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:33 AM

28. It does get crazier

A wingnut friend on facebook (from high school and now I'm embarassed that I know her) posted some propaganda that Sandy Hook was all staged as some government plot to take everyone's guns away. According to the nuts who believe this, no one really died, it was all just a big scam to get the publics support to take guns away from law abiding citizens. So yes, it does get crazier, you are dealing with the most insane people on the planet!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 05:28 PM

13. Gun humpers must be getting desperate.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 06:52 PM

14. yeh, things were going swimmingly till that colored boy was elected..

unfuckingbelievable. Obama is raising racial tension by being, you know, black. how DARE he!!1

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Response to frylock (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:34 AM

24. Uppitty n/t

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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #24)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:19 PM

42. And a godless, christian liberation theology, muslin, soshaylist furriner!

Do I need the icon here on DU?



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Response to freshwest (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 10:28 AM

99. Sometimes you do.

I was accused of being anti-Hispanic once for parroting the way anti-immigration bigots talk (in quotations), even though my parents were illegal Mexican immigrants themselves. Some people take things too literally.

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Response to Rozlee (Reply #99)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:13 PM

114. Hard to know who you're talking to here. I've friends from Mexico who say words that aren't PC.

Re: Mexicans. If I was to repeat them, people would think I had a problem. Lack of voice and facial expression really does limit the meanings of words on the net.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #42)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:55 PM

112. You might not NEED

... the sarcasm, but we love it. Pour it on! Be warned, however, some of us will keep trying to outdo you however low the odds.

I'm going to copy your funny spelling of soshaylist for my own use offsite, if you don't mind. That's a good one. I already knew how to spell furriner.

Hey, I just realized how to remember that spelling: it's 'sos hay list'

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #112)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:15 PM

115. The other spelling is soy-shell-est. That 'muslin' meme tickles me.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #115)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:28 AM

117. I still have so much to learn.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #117)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:27 PM

120. Stick with me, I'll teach you all the silly stuff!

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Response to freshwest (Reply #120)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 02:07 PM

122. Deal.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:49 PM

15. Here's some background on Greg W. Howard and Twittergate

Both Larry Pratt and Glen W. Howard have long histories as racists. But Howard also has his own history as a well-known thin-skinned idiot.

http://gawker.com/5659351/twittergate-how-internet-jerks-pranked-the-tea-party

Oct 9, 2010

The best way to deal with jerks online is to ignore them. But when prominent Tea Partiers on Twitter started being harassed by a group of Internet trolls, they launched a twitter militia and concocted an elaborate conspiracy theory.

Twittergate is the hottest new conspiracy theory out of the conservative blogosphere. Yesterday, Glenn Beck's news site, The Blaze, posted an epic YouTube video which purports to expose a massive conspiracy by Democrats to take over Twitter: "DID DEMOCRATS HIRE A ‘TWITTER-THUG' TO SMEAR THE TEA PARTY?" The Blaze asks. ...

Twittergate has sparked many sprawling blogposts outlining the conspiracy, and frenzied discussion on conservative message boards and Twitter. "Democrats PAY e-thugs to harass you," tweeted ResistTyranny. Democratic operatives exposed as the thuggish KGB to Obama's Kremlin! But also like a Glenn Beck conspiracy theory, Twittergate is utter bullshit. Although the truth is almost as ridiculous. ...

It all starts with a Twitter gang known as the Beandogs, a loose-knit group of dozens of Twitter users from all over the world, united only by a love of dick jokes and harassing strangers on Twitter. ... Beandogs targeted Greg W. Howard, the Glenn Beck of Twitter, after Howard spearheaded the takedown of a highly-publicized anti-Glenn Beck account called @murderglennbeck. ... So, the Beandogs started tweeting vulgar things about Howard's children and wife, spreading rumors about him and generally making his Twitter life miserable.

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Response to starroute (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:23 PM

43. WAIT! The Democratic Party is paying for Twitter posts to smear the wingnuts? Sign me up now!

I'll be right there! You gotta love your work, because you gotta pay the rent.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:03 AM

92. Let me know where to sign up if you find out...

I can pop up a dozen sock puppets on various devices and use them all to spam selected targets . I ask 20 cents a twit and can get a 1,000 a day, hehe.

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Response to bobclark86 (Reply #92)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:09 AM

94. Finally, we'll be fat cats working from home!



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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 09:54 PM

16. I'm stuck on this

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


What does that mean? We were doing great until a black person got in a position of power? How is it healing if it only occurs so long as . . .

Can't even finish the sentence. This whole line of thinking is really hateful. "Sowing the seeds of racial hatred" I think means daring to be in a position of power while being black. "Racial discord" means something along the lines of people who are not white thinking they should have a voice and a part in our government. We'd be "doing great" so long as that kind of stuff didn't happen.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:42 AM

32. Nailed it.

"Racial discord" to them is things not being like they were in the eras where blacks were in "their place."

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:24 PM

17. Yeah, sure. An "army" of one group of Americans

against almost 70% of the country's population...that is definitely a fight worth picking.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:54 AM

29. That is not

 

reality. President Obama got almost 40 percent of the white vote and over 70 percent of other minority groups. They consider the whites that voted for President Obama the enemy too. They call them Liberal communists. What they are espousing is no different than any other white supremacist group like the Klu Klux Klan. These people can not deal with the changing demographics of America. O'Reilly's rhetoric is no different either or Limbaugh.

The simple truth is no American is a second class citizen based on skin color but that is what scares these people. As an African American, I can care less about the color of someone's skin as long as I'm treated with respect and as an equal. That is what the President is really about. They don't like the idea that a Black person or anybody else can rise to the top office in this land.

To tell you the truth, I think people are talking in code and it is really about using skin color for
preferred status in this country. I see this through Foreign Policy and immigration Policy. Is this really about keeping unskill or criminals out or about keeping certain racial groups out of this country through a quota system? In the 20 and 21st century, you had a lot of European immigration coming through Ellis Island and now you have more immigration crossing the borders that are not European. I think certain whites are threatened by the shift. So it is not just about African Americans, but it is really about anyone who isn't white isn't it The problem;em with these certain whites, is that a significant portion of whites are not racists and threatened by someone's skin color. Their message is really tailored towards whites that are though.

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Response to John2 (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:19 PM

51. I see it as the party of the old well off white men

are very afraid of being outvoted
so they frantically try to keep Latinos and all other "minorities" from having any power.
Trouble is, THEY are becoming the minority..and they know it.
All this paranoid talk is a reflection that Pres. Obama's election scared the holy shit out of them.
Least ways, that is how I hear it.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #51)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:51 AM

75. +1000

I agree.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:33 PM

18. That's exactly why these psychos scare the shit out of me more than any terrorist cell could.

They just keep stirring up the crazies.

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Response to Initech (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:25 AM

20. + a million

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:08 AM

22. Surprised he didn't even blurt out the N-word. n/t

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:22 AM

23. CRAZY

No wonder they're against background checks and verifications.

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Response to countmyvote4real (Reply #23)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:25 PM

44. You nailed it!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:48 AM

26. This is getting crazy

I know it is when my Santorum voting friend began to rant about the NRA and Alex Jones and now this guy making responsible gun owners look bad. Then he went on to say any responsible gun owner should be fine with background checks, these people are doing themselves no favors by saying these things. I couldn't believe my ears when my friend said this, makes me wonder is their own base freaked out by this? I'll never know lol

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:15 AM

27. Prat

 

prat (prt)
n. Slang
The buttocks.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:38 AM

30. Pratt is just like Charles Manson that way. Wasn't this the exact idea behind "helter skelter?" nt.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #30)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:30 PM

45. And the Nazis always promote race war as the chance for chaos and taking over the government.

The first group on their extermination list is all of the whites who don't go along, then minorities. Just a little genocide running in their heads all day long to give themselves a happy...



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Response to freshwest (Reply #45)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 02:06 PM

113. Tell me about it

I live in a remote corner of MidWestern RedNeckLand where probably half the men play soldier in the woods. (No telling what else they play, but that's a subject for another day.) I hope they fall out and shoot each other before they get around to visiting me, which they've promised to my face they will do someday. When the Repugs took the House in '12, a pickup load of militia stopped on the street outside my house, honking and hooting and waving their pistols and rifles. I went out smiling, waved, and took their picture. They peeled rubber and haven't been back. But they're still out there.

They didn't know the camera doesn't work. But they know my extended double barrel Colt does. I really hate needing to keep a gun, but it's the only thing those nuts respect, especially with a woman alone.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #113)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:23 PM

116. Yup, you're on 'race traitor' list now. Only tough in a group. Divide their IQ by the numbers.

Watch out if they get liquored up... And keep your animals out of range.






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Response to freshwest (Reply #116)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:50 AM

118. Wise advice

For a long time when I let the chows out, I'd walk the entire yard first even though, as I said somewhere before, I poison-trained them. They wouldn't touch any food except from me. But they both died at 16 and now I only have a little yapper for a watchdog. I'm not at all sure she's a likely candidate for such training. Still I keep as close an eye on her as I can.

During campaign season the big wooden sign I crafted stood in the middle of the side yard in case anyone used it for target practice as threatened. I put a row of little American flags across the top in an effort to shame low-level bullies from throwing actual mud. And yes, I know that would be useless against the truly dangerous ones.

Did you read about the SPLC's recent report that militia groups are on the rise?

When I moved here, I still had an old joke card with FBI printed in bold letters on the top and 'Federal Bureau of Idiots' in small print at the bottom. One day while at the county offices I flipped through the other ID in my hands and placed the stack on the table with the top of that one showing so the clerk couldn't miss it, then as if it had been an accident I scooped it back up and told her in my calmest managerial voice, "Forget you ever saw that."

Of course the twit used her wild imagination and the rumor was all over town before I got home. My purpose had been not to gain favor or status of any kind but to discourage reprisals from certain people I knew would hear the most outrageous version of what happened. Although I MIGHT have pushed the envelope a little, it was not impersonation or I wouldn't have done it and I certainly wouldn't be talking about it in public. But by that time I'd learned - forgive me - how seriously dumb and gullible a lot of these people are.

By far my best layer of protection, though, has been a loud mouth about the worst things that have gone on. I'm prone to shout the news from the rooftops, not to mention the local weekly paper. Why the archconservative owner/publisher sticks his own neck out by printing my quarterly rants remains a mystery to me. I have to wonder if he's a cut above the usual around here. So by now anything that might go too far south for me would be hard for the militia to hide. I wouldn't go quietly.

To wind up this particular mini-rant, I want to point out that most of those militia wannabes couldn't even make it through boot camp in a real army. Most are fat-ass cowards. They think they're such bigshots and they are indeed dangerous, but I'd never give them credit for being anywhere near real soldiers.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #116)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:52 AM

119. Sorry, folks - this was an accidental repeat

And if I just self-deleted it, some of you would leap to the erroneous conclusion that I'd said something and then backed out of it.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 10:39 AM

31. They get crazier by the week

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”


You know, Howard, no. You are the one creating the "racial discord" because you just can't stand having a black man as President.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 12:02 PM

33. At this point in time the gun nuts are losing so therefore,

they are coming out swinging any means necessary. Ya see, they don't care about people dying as long as they get their profits. If there is a heaven and hell, I hope hell will have open arms for this douche bags.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:18 PM

34. Oh please!

Howard agreed: “You may be right because he has been sowing the seeds of racial hatred; we
were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have
a lot of racial discord.”





President Obama is not the one sowing seeds of racial discord Howard you are w/ your
whack a doodle ideas about a black army coming to take "white folk's" guns.



The President's March, 2008 speech on race in America should be up there w/the Gettysburg
Address and MLK's, "I Have A Dream," speech.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:27 PM

35. Racial discord. What a Buncha bullshit.

They would freaking know. They should look in the dang mirror.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:03 PM

37. If you want to get them on board with gun control

Do what the Black Panthers did, patrol the streets with rifles(in open carry areas). When they did that Reagan couldn't outlaw it fast enough. If these wingnuts who parade around with guns were joined by people of color carrying guns, they will change their tone quickly

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:09 PM

38. Don't forget Larry Pratt was fired by Pat Buchanan for being too racist.

That should say something.

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Response to Archae (Reply #38)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:24 AM

77. Exactly. Pratt has ties to white supremacists. Despite which he's also influential in ALEC.

From Time magazine in 2001:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,94912,00.html

Nearly three years ago, as Sen. John Ashcroft was considering a run for the presidency, he composed a hand-written thank-you note to a man many politicians would run from. Neatly inscribed on Ashcroft's Senate stationery, the letter went to Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, a firearms lobbying group considered extremist even by many conservatives.

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At the time Ashcroft wrote to Pratt, the Virginia-based activist was already branded as a pariah even by those considered to the right of the GOP: Two years earlier, he had been forced to step aside as co-chairman of Pat Buchanan's presidential campaign after news reports of his association with leaders of the Ku Klux Klan, the Aryan Nations and militias.

-snip-



From ThinkProgress last year:

As the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) works to distance itself from the NRA-bill it backed as a “model” adopted in dozens of states, it may be hoping that people will not continue to dig into the damage done by its long love affair with gun groups, like the gun-industry funded NRA and fringe groups with ties to white supremacists like Gun Owners of America (GOA).

GOA’s Executive Director is Larry Pratt. In the early 1980s, Pratt and the GOA were outspoken supporters of the white rulers in South Africa during apartheid, calling a press conference in 1984 to present “evidence” that allegedly tied Bishop Desmond Tutu to an effort to violently overthrow the white minority regime in the country. In 1990, Pratt wrote a book titled “Armed People Victorious” based on his study of death squads in Guatemala and the Philippines, and advocated for similar “citizen defense patrols” in the United States. The idea reportedly caught on in 1992, when Pratt addressed a three-day meeting of neo-Nazis and Christian Adherents organized by white supremacist Pete Peters. He shared the stage with a former Ku Klux Klan leader and an Aryan Nation official.

Pratt also held leadership roles in ALEC for many years. His relationship with ALEC began in 1978, when ALEC began an effort to oppose a constitutional amendment giving the District of Columbia full voting rights in Congress. When Pratt was elected to the Virginia State Legislature in 1981, he took a leadership position in ALEC. He sat on ALEC’s board even after he left the legislature, serving as its treasurer into the 1990s.

Meanwhile, the organization Pratt helped lead shared his passion for relaxing guns laws. For decades, ALEC quietly helped advance key parts of the gun agenda, including not only bills that may protect vigilante shooters but that also lead to more armed people on the streets who may cite laws like Florida¹s so-called Stand Your Ground or “Kill at Will” bill. ALEC’s agenda is detailed at the Center for Media and Democracy’s ALECexposed.org. Even though GOA left ALEC years ago, it was a long-time member and leader. GOA leapt to the defense of Florida’s law, ratified by ALEC, in the wake of the shooting of unarmed high school student Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman.

-snip-

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Response to Archae (Reply #38)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:57 PM

90. Good grief

I didn't know many people could be worse than Buchanan! Except this nut in North Carolina or somewhere around there who keeps getting elected even though he outright defends slavery. Or maybe because of it?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:15 PM

39. helter skelter!

 

who knew Chucky Manson was so prescient?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:17 PM

40. those people are off the damn rails.

Those people are apparantly clueless that White Slaveowning America sowed the seeds of racial hatred centuries ago, and Jim Crow, the Klan, and Republican gerrymandering continue to fertilize the field they are living in.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:30 PM

46. I Can't Wait Till Their Futile Custer's Last Stand/Alamo Act

 


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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:39 PM

47. *facepalm*

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:49 PM

49. One of the scariest things about starting to do radio was the realization of how many of these

kinds of shows there are out there on the radio.

There is a huge market for people who go on the radio and make up crazy stuff to tell their listeners. Conspiracy theorists eat this stuff up and listen in large numbers.

There was always some of this around, particularly in the US but I place the blame on George W. Bush for how bad it has gotten. When the US Government is caught in so blatant a lie as the justification was for the Iraq war, it sets up the premise and question "What else is the government lying to me about?" Since it is virtually impossible to prove either way much of the time, those selling conspiracy were off to the races after Iraq.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #49)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:34 PM

55. It got in full gear earlier with Nixon's lies, but started even earlier with small beginnings. nt

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:19 PM

50. Except--when folks riot, they destroy their own neighborhoods.

Otherwise, Beverly Hills would have been destroyed in the 1960s.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 07:31 PM

52. The Haitians are coming to free your slaves!!

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #52)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:02 AM

91. No, No!!!

It's the KENYANS! Get your geography straight, man!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:04 PM

53. They should not be able to own guns.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:28 PM

54. They wonder why we call them gun nuts, they are the problem

If they had a real clue they would be dangerous. This is an example of an unstable person and they should be on a no buy list.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 08:40 PM

56. When I was a teen, I somehow got ahold of the local NAZI party phone message number

They said pretty much the same thing, just substitute "Jews" for "Obama". This group is essentially the same as the American Nazi party, in my opinion. And should be treated the same.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:41 PM

58. Are these nincompoops still spewing their bullcrap.Please send them to school,Afghanistan,somewhere

somebody can teach them about reality. They are nothing but troublemakers. Hopefully, they are OLD. What a pleasure it will be when they're GONE!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:58 PM

59. There is no possible reason

to even try to make anything logical about these remarks. There is no cause and effect, there is no basis for reason, it's just the intellectual maturity of Bevis and Butthead .. which is to say duhhh duhhh... duhhh and I mean it.. duhhhh.

These guys have brain worm.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:02 PM

60. Haven't we seen this scenario proposed before, by an equally unbalanced source?

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:11 PM

61. "...we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along..."

There just isn't enough facepalm in the world for how out of touch and ignorant a statement that is.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:21 PM

62. Who keeps these idiots from walking out into traffic?

That is about the STUPIDEST shit I've ever read and not only makes no logical sense, but hurts my brain as I try and wrap my head around The Stupid in it's totality.

Nope cannot do it, The Stupid is too hard. Lemme try this instead... Maybe if I numb my brain up, I can kinda sorta figure it out.

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Response to Rex (Reply #62)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 12:04 AM

93. My Secret Wish

... is to PUSH them out into traffic.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:36 PM

63. Straight of of far-right (lore? I don't know what to call it)

They've been going at the "race war" bit for years.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:01 AM

67. I'm going to refer these guys to an expert on the subject...

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:08 AM

68. Time to get this out again

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:34 AM

70. What the HELL do these idiots think is gonna happen???

Do they picture themselves manning the walls of their gated communities as a massive negro army comes rushing at them???

This ain't 1879 in the Battle of Isandlwana.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:28 AM

72. 'gun activists'? no. fucking insane, paranoid racist assholes.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:49 AM

74. These people need to be put in a mental institution and the key thrown away.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:15 AM

76. So why isn't this slander of defimation of character?

Maybe some lawsuits need to start to stop this shit. Having FBI address it only builds their case, so I'm thinking lawsuits.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:58 AM

78. This Is Gratifying To DU Gun Control Advocates.....


....considering all the self-righteous lectures we've received over the years from our resident Gun Enthusiasts about gun control supposedly having racist roots. It's been obvious for years that this country's racists and the lilly-white gun militancy movement are clustered together on the far-right edge of the political spectrum. You gun rights advocates are in serious need of spokesmen who are better evolved than Larry Pratt and Stan Solomon.....

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:12 PM

79. that's a notion that can only be conjured in the minds of these idiots

yeah, show us your undeniable proof... I thought so.. there is none. Just your overactive imagination.

an idle mind is the devil's workshop, after all.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:19 PM

80. These folks are dangerous, and seriously insane.

Not even just mentally unhealthy.....I mean seriously paranoid, seriously delusional.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:21 PM

81. Just when I thought I've herd the craziest thing one could hear.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:50 PM

82. What he meant to say ...

"We were healing quite well as long as they knew their place. Then one of THEM had to get uppity and get elected President and now look at the mess!"

That's what he meant.

Bake

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 02:51 PM

83. Gun activist

Euphemism for bigoted, paranoid, delusional, unstable heavily armed enemy of the United States.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:03 PM

84. There is no different races!!!

We are all human, just get along. That is all you have to do...

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:06 PM

85. What color is the sky on these people's planet? Fire-red?

Reality--what a concept!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 03:24 PM

86. FFS

Why do we have to deal with these so called "people". They are terrorists and inciting violence from this little exchange alone.

Another example of cheesus riding dinosaurs.

-p

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:06 PM

87. Those fucking assholes are too stupid to know they're projecting

big time. I wish we could ship those fetid turds to Somalia, since they're so "big and strong" and able to take care of themselves so well. Fuck off Pratt.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:52 PM

89. Not Surprising

These wingnuts don't care how much damage their lies cause to this country they claim to love. Anything for a buck or a vote. I retired for financial reasons only to a remote corner of the MidWest, and half the people here are scared witless of Democrats in general, President Obama in particular. One poor woman whose elderly parents were both confined to nursing homes broke down in tears right in front of me because she thought Barack Obama was going to make the doctors pull the plug on her mom and dad. When her 'friend' started to scream, "That Obama! He's the very devil!" I slammed my hands down on the table and told her to shut the you-know-what up. She did, too, because I come from a military family and suffer from an inborn command voice which surprises people who've never heard it before, especially from a 5' tall little old lady. Anyway, there went another Bible study group I had to quit.

But my basic point is, there's no limit to the hate and hysteria that wingnuts like to stir up. I've heard things in my 7 years here that would curl your hair. When I pin some jackass' ears back, they call ME mean. I can hardly believe the crap these people swallow whole. Did you know - GASP - that our President wants to bring half of Kenya over here to keep him in power by any means? Why, no white women will be safe anywhere! to hear the teabaggers tell it.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:23 PM

105. I think you nailed it, these people can not stand the idea of a black man being president

let alone the idea of them being a minority. Conservatives are a afraid of being treated the same way they treated minorities in past.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 01:52 AM

95. OK, maybe the mentally ill shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

At least people who are clearly delusional.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:34 AM

96. Idiots.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 04:36 AM

98. By coincidence, from Urban Dictionary...

1. prat 1230 up, 398 down

Basically someone whos a major idiot, or is delusional and dumb. Acts against logic and thinks hes self-righteous. AKA: Major dumbass.

Good example: Percy from HP and from 5th book
"You stupid prat!"
buy prat mugs & shirts
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2. prat 807 up, 231 down

n. English term, primarily used in United Kingdom. The literal meaning is "bottom" or "rump"; aka backside, buttocks, sacrum, tail end. This lends itself to the slang meaning of "ass," or "clueless person of arrogant stupidity." It is not always directly translatable to American slang. For example, if you used the term "prat hat" in the U.K., you would likely be laughed out of town by the locals.
I can't believe what an overbearing idiot he is. What a prat!
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3. prat 518 up, 206 down

a self-aggrandizing, pompous fuck. Someone who is full of themselves and, almost invariably, stupid as well. With a hint of 'deluded.'
"I'm getting really tired of listening to Vince brag about his conquests. What a prat."
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prat

I guess Larry's such a prat he needs an extra "t" for emphasis.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 02:45 PM

101. Seriously?

"we were healing quite well as a nation on racial issues until Obama came along and now we have a lot of racial discord.”

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:01 PM

102. From the Charles Manson playbook

"The coming race war". Except in Manson's case, it was the Beatles leading the subliminal charge in songs such as "Blackbird" and "Helter Skelter", and not the POTUS. It should be apparent by now that 20-25% of the population is prepared to accept any crazy theory, as long as it casts Obama in a negative and fear-provoking light.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:10 PM

103. Another case of projection by the reactionaries.

Good grief.

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 03:51 PM

104. FUCK YOU!

GO HOME RW CONSPIRIST, RACIST, SEXIST ASSHOLES!

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Response to SpartanDem (Original post)

Mon Feb 25, 2013, 11:33 PM

106. Some of those who work forces are the same that burn crosses

Larry Pratt burns crosses

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