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Fri Feb 22, 2013, 01:29 PM

SKINNER: DU Group to discuss provisions of ACA??

Last edited Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:23 PM - Edit history (1)

I've looked and don't see a group dedicated to discussion of the provisions of Affordable Care Act. With the application period starting October 1 of this year, I was thinking such a group would be useful for many here.

Please give a K&R if you agree. Thanks!

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Reply SKINNER: DU Group to discuss provisions of ACA?? (Original post)
AmBlue Feb 2013 OP
bvar22 Feb 2013 #1
Fumesucker Feb 2013 #4
quadrature Feb 2013 #8
DiverDave Feb 2013 #10
AmBlue Feb 2013 #2
Rhiannon12866 Feb 2013 #3
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #5
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #6
Violet_Crumble Feb 2013 #7
AmBlue Feb 2013 #14
Dalai_1 Feb 2013 #9
spanone Feb 2013 #11
OneGrassRoot Feb 2013 #12
KoKo Feb 2013 #13
Sgent Feb 2013 #15
SHRED Feb 2013 #16
Ruby the Liberal Feb 2013 #17
msanthrope Feb 2013 #18
rgbecker Feb 2013 #19

Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 02:49 PM

1. I absolutely agree.

I would suggest that the Democratic Party Get-Out-in-Front of 2014 with:

* National, Regional, and Local Information and Education campaigns,

*fully funded and staffed regional and local offices to assist confused citizens

*Trained Crisis Management and Emergency Response teams

*national TV and Media campaigns to explain all the details and options.

The best estimates predict that between 40 MILLION and 70 MILLION Americans will be uninsured by 2014.

As an uninsured American that will be directly affected, I have sought detailed information,
and it is not easy to find.

I currently "self-pay" for my Health "Care" are a Community Health Center,
and NOBODY there has any of the details concerning the implementation ACA, especially the eligibility and application processes,
and VERY few are familiar with even the Broadest Outlines of the ACA.

I have met NOBODY On-the-Street that has even the vaguest understanding of The Mandate, The Exchange, the Levels of Insurance/Coverage offered on the Exchange,The Option to Refuse and the Penalties, or the now "Optional" Medicaid Expansion, Who is covered and who isn't.
NOBODY!

Last week, I was talking to an informed Democrat, active in our local Democratic Party,
who was under the delusion the the ACA contained a Government Administered Federal Public Option available to everybody!!!


If this turns into a chaotic nightmare in 2014,
there WILL be 40 Million - 70 Million Americans who will blame the Democratic Party.


The only problem I foresee with this group at DU is that it will be chaotic, partisan,
and deluged with vague and conflicting information.




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Response to bvar22 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:18 AM

4. The PPACA is akin to Feynman's quip about quantum physics, no one understands it

Like Schroedinger's cat, we won't know if we have coverage or not or what that coverage might be until the box is actually opened.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:10 AM

8. is any insurance company signing contracts for coverage yet?

if no, when does that start?

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:05 AM

10. Insurance?

The best estimates predict that between 40 MILLION and 70 MILLION Americans will be uninsured by 2014.

Heck, I'm uninsured NOW.
3 days in the hospital and had to exit with my hat in my hand.
Not having insurance blows.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:08 PM

2. Kicking for the night crowd.

I had more of an educational forum in mind, where we can all share our experiences and learn about ACA together. From what I see at http://www.healthcare.gov/law/ there are very beneficial provisions coming soon and the more we educate ourselves and share what we know, the better. There are lots of very knowledgeable people here that I'm sure will chime in. I think it'd be great to have a forum on DU help to pave the way for all of us that will have to learn to navigate the new system.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 03:38 AM

3. Sounds great to me!

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:27 AM

5. bump

agree

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:28 AM

6. Not GD--may be best to PM skinner with your suggestion

He might suggest posting in a forum or group to assay support for the idea, perhaps even in GD. Best to contact admins first, though.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:51 AM

7. This GD host is kicking in support, with a suggestion...

GD moves really quick and isn't the best place for threads looking for support to request the creation of a new group.

The best thing to do is start an OP in Meta and link to this thread so the K&R's from here aren't lost, and then when you think you've got enough people giving support, you should PM yr request to the admins with a link to yr thread with the support in them...

Good luck with it!

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:26 PM

14. Thanks for the suggestions, Violet

Not having suggested a forum before, I was not sure where to start. Off to Meta I go!

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 06:42 AM

9. Great Suggestion! K&R n/t

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:06 AM

11. k&r...

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 09:15 AM

12. GREAT idea! K&R n/t

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 01:36 PM

13. K&R

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 05:33 PM

15. Use Health / Health

the name changed unfortunately, but we've been discussing health policy and the effect of the ACA for years.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:08 AM

16. do it!

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:12 AM

17. Agree. NT

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:14 AM

18. No--and let me tell you why--

It would be really great if ACA provisions were discussed in GD, and not Balkanized into a forum where significantly fewer DUers would see them.

Look, between the drone threads and the 'cutting SS' threads, it would be a change to have intelligent covnversation about Administration policies in GD.


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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:36 AM

19. A quick review of the responses to this thread indicate that a quick review of what is going on....

in Massachusetts might help people understand what's coming.

Massachusetts has had it's Romneycare since about 2006 and it's really quite straightforward.

1. You go to https://www.mahealthconnector.org/portal/site/connector. This is what they have been calling the "exchange".

2. If you make less than about $30,000 you are going to get you insurance thru the state plan which will subsidize your health insurance so you don't pay any more than 8% of your income. ($10,000 x .08 = $800).

3. Everyone else chooses the policy they want and they sign up and start paying the premium. No questions about previous conditions, etc.

4. If you think you can't afford it and you'd rather just pay a penalty at tax time, you have that option. But you won't have any insurance.

5. If the policies are so expensive and your income is so low that you can't get coverage for about 10% of your income, there will be no penalty for not getting it.

6. Done. Check out the connector site, pretend you live in Massachusetts and see what Obamacare is bringing to your area soon.

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