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Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:51 PM

landlord whipped tenant's bare bottom with belt over late rent

Ron Kronenberger, Ohio landlord, whipped tenant for falling behind on rent, police say

(CBS/AP) WAYNESVILLE, Ohio - An Ohio landlord is accused of whipping a tenant with a belt on his bare buttocks for falling behind on his rent.

Police in the village of Waynesville say 53-year-old Ron Kronenberger is charged with assault for the Jan. 22 encounter in his office. He was due in court Thursday in Warren County.

Police say Kronenberger told the 29-year-old tenant that if he was going to act like a child, he would treat him like one. He then allegedly hit him four times with a belt, leaving small marks.

Police say the tenant told them he was scared and just wanted to get it over with.

The Dayton Daily News reports Kronenberger is a former chamber of commerce president. His home phone wasn't taking messages Thursday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57570542-504083/ron-kronenberger-ohio-landlord-whipped-tenant-for-falling-behind-on-rent-police-say/

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The Dayton Daily News reported that Kronenberger, who owns Hometown Market in town, is a former chamber of commerce president who was voted in 2006 as Waynesville's Citizen of the Year.

Residents in the small community of 2,800 were shocked by the arrest of the prominent local businessman, but some told ABC22 that they can understand his frustration with the insolvent tenant.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282426/Ron-Kronenberger-Landlord-charged-whipping-naughty-tenant-BELT-naked-buttocks-falling-rent.html#ixzz2La6BnqMK
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Reply landlord whipped tenant's bare bottom with belt over late rent (Original post)
Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 OP
cabot Feb 2013 #1
catbyte Feb 2013 #2
Politicalboi Feb 2013 #3
Dirty Socialist Feb 2013 #4
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #5
Liberal_in_LA Feb 2013 #8
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #12
msanthrope Feb 2013 #22
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #23
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #35
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #36
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #38
Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #6
KamaAina Feb 2013 #7
Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #9
Earth_First Feb 2013 #10
2pooped2pop Feb 2013 #33
Upton Feb 2013 #11
alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #13
malaise Feb 2013 #14
Ilsa Feb 2013 #15
idwiyo Feb 2013 #53
sibelian Feb 2013 #54
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #55
sibelian Feb 2013 #62
slackmaster Feb 2013 #16
geek tragedy Feb 2013 #17
smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #18
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #19
MadrasT Feb 2013 #20
gollygee Feb 2013 #24
LeftofObama Feb 2013 #56
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #58
Cali_Democrat Feb 2013 #21
freshwest Feb 2013 #25
ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #26
Renew Deal Feb 2013 #42
Adsos Letter Feb 2013 #59
NJCher Feb 2013 #27
SmileyRose Feb 2013 #28
markgee Feb 2013 #29
RedCappedBandit Feb 2013 #30
dballance Feb 2013 #60
AverageJoe90 Feb 2013 #31
freshwest Feb 2013 #61
sibelian Feb 2013 #32
Tien1985 Feb 2013 #34
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #37
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #39
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #40
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #43
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #44
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #45
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #46
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #47
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #48
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #49
In_The_Wind Feb 2013 #50
Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #51
Renew Deal Feb 2013 #41
CincyDem Feb 2013 #52
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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:53 PM

1. Oh for God's sake

Seriously? People often leave me shaking my head in amazement re: their stupidity.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:53 PM

2. Sounds like a perv.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:55 PM

3. Now who's the landlord

What an idiot.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:56 PM

4. That's near Dayton, naturally

Waynesville is one of the most conservative towns there is. It's even a dry town.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:56 PM

5. Who submits to that?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:00 PM

8. someone who owes $2800 in back rent. probably afraid if eviction.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:05 PM

12. Would you?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:34 PM

22. Someone who is afraid. nt

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Response to msanthrope (Reply #22)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:17 PM

23. How very, very sad.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:22 AM

35. W.T.F

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:23 AM

36. Hey there!

Isn't this an awful story?

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #36)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:28 AM

38. my two cents

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2420808

don't even give the sorry piece of shit landlord a reach around !!!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:57 PM

6. Kinky.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 06:57 PM

7. Meet Ohio's next rising repuke star

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:01 PM

9. "former chamber of commerce president"

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:02 PM

10. I forsee a transfer of deed and title of property in the near future... n/t

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Response to Earth_First (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 06:53 AM

33. Sounds like he opened up a whole can of whup ass, don't it?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:02 PM

11. They're both keeping it kinky..

perhaps the tenant should have offered to let the landlord whip him a few more times for some free rent..

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:11 PM

13. Come on... that's not assault, it's sexual assault

Please. What grown man wants to whip another grown man's bare ass in a non-sexual way?

I would be looking very closely at this dude for other crimes in the area.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:14 PM

14. Ding ding we have a winner

This landlord is sick

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:25 PM

15. Yep. Ask some of the women tenants if

He promised to forgive their rent for sexual favors.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:41 AM

53. Agree. Just because tenant is male doesn't make it less of sexual assault. Landlord should be

Convicted for sexual assault and out on registered sexual offenders list. Disgusting arsehole.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:48 AM

54. Uhhh...


Wha...?

Hang on a minute here. Unless the pair of them have consented to a relationship in which one is permitted by the other to perform such acts... what's it go to do with sex?

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Response to sibelian (Reply #54)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:27 AM

55. Uh, obviously many forms of sexual assault do not involve consent. That's what makes it assualt.

Your post makes no sense.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #55)

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 03:25 AM

62. What's it got to do with sex?


Can you answer the question for me please?

Where was the sex?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 07:27 PM

16. I'm actually surprised that this happened in the US and not the UK

 

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:22 PM

18. OK. That is totally f-ed up.

WTF is wrong with this country anyway?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:25 PM

19. bare bottom? how did the landlord get access to the tenant's bare bottom?

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:30 PM

20. That was my first question too

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 09:20 PM

24. "Drop your pants or you'll be homeless" ??

That would be my guess.

It was horrible behavior. Who would even think to do that?

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:24 AM

56. Exactly what I was thinking! n/t

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Response to HiPointDem (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:40 AM

58. According to the Daily Mail article (link in OP) :

"... he complied with Kronenberger’s demand to bend over, placing his hands on a chair."

As others have speculated, I imagine the timeline of this incident included a demand to drop the drawers.

EDIT: ...sentence structure...

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 08:33 PM

21. This guy is a sexual predator IMO. n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sat Feb 23, 2013, 11:44 PM

25. The poor have always been the whipping post of the rich. It's geting literal again.

Why would an adult man, unable to pay his rent, strip, bend over and submit to being beaten?

The younger man said he was scared. Knowing the older man was Citizen of the Year goes to show he felt he had no choice in that town.

Economical coercion and authoritarian thinking go together. Mr. CoC is very likely to get off with nothing but a 'hand slap.'

I wonder when we'll get to giving lashes to beggars. Damn, I hate these New Dark Ages.



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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:00 AM

26. "if he was going to act like a child, he would treat him like one"

He beats children with belts?!

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:39 AM

42. That's what I took from it

I bet his kids aren't shocked.

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Response to ZombieHorde (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:46 AM

59. Nice catch. n/t

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:19 AM

27. newspaper comments are usually useless

But when I saw this story at the NY Daily News and read the comment "They both have issues," I had to laugh.


Cher

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:48 AM

28. More BULLSHIT from crack journalists

Incident report. Not one mention of bare butt.

This is weird enough. Amazing how many "news" organizations can't be bothered to get the incident report to verify factoids.

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Response to markgee (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:37 AM

30. yea lol sexual assault, funny stuff

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Response to RedCappedBandit (Reply #30)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 12:13 PM

60. How Exactly Did you Decide This was Sexual Assault?

I didn't see anything in the OP or the two linked stories that indicated a sexual assault. Nothing that indicated any sort of sexual context to this at all.

Do you believe that when parents spank their children's bare bottoms, and some still do, that it's sexual assault?

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Response to markgee (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:41 AM

31. WTF? You serious?

If so, please do us all a favor and STFU and GTFO DU.

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Response to AverageJoe90 (Reply #31)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:01 PM

61. MIRT just made him GTFO DU. Thanks, MIRT!

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:45 AM

32. Hmmmmmmmmmm.


Hmmmmmmm.

Ahem ahem ahem - speculation

but... um... I wonder if there's more to the relationship between landlord and tenant than is detailed "in print". Cough, cough.

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Response to sibelian (Reply #32)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 07:24 AM

34. Well,

SmileyRose linked to the incident report, it it doesn't say anything about skin contact, so something may be off here.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:25 AM

37. IMO ~The Landlord and Tenant need serious psychological counseling!

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:29 AM

39. Exactly!

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #39)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:32 AM

40. I Cannot Believe This!!!

CRAP

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #40)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:40 AM

43. We are living in very strange times....

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #44)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:03 AM

45. People have been pushed to thir breaking points...

on so many levels.


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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #45)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:04 AM

46. no shit!

This is one of the issues I have fought IRL!

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #46)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:07 AM

47. And fought the good fight

I'm sure.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #47)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:11 AM

48. Lots of children needed me.

I will not stop when the helpless are abused.

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:14 AM

49. Your essence...and purpose.

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Response to Sekhmets Daughter (Reply #49)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:20 AM

50. is always pure . . . .

camouflage is my friend.

just sayin'

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018314212#post2

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Response to In_The_Wind (Reply #50)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:23 AM

51. But of course...

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:33 AM

41. I don't understand what's wrong with this

If they lived in Saudi Arabia.

What a nut? And neighbors are "shocked." I bet his kids aren't "shocked."

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:39 AM

52. It's a fractal of our nationalistic worldview.


This is the 1 on 1 version of Bushco opening a can of whupass on Iraq. I'm certainly not supporting defending or rationalizing the behavior with this comparison but at some point, the persistence of watching the country starts to shift the populations mindset.

It screws up the collective moral compass and it eventually starts showing its ugliness in ways like this. Many comment above have rightly said this, in principle, is nothing new. Absolutely right. What's new about it, however, is that the landlord is probably surprised that his F'ed up assertion of power over his tenant is seen as a bad thing.

I'm sure chit like this is happening in a lot of situations and there will be more. Bushco taught many people that extreme over reaction and preemptive strikes are all ok. In that world, it's the great American patriots that seem to believe it is their responsibility to teach us lessons we don't need over wrongs we have not committed by asserting power they should not have.

It's going to take a long time to rebuild big parts of our moral compass.

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Sun Feb 24, 2013, 11:36 AM

57. Fifty shades of failure to pay the rent

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