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Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:28 PM

 

If you make more than $3,200 a year in Florida, you are ineligible for Medicaid...

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If you make more than $3,200 a year in Florida, you are ineligible for Medicaid whether you are a man, woman or child. Republican Tea Party Gov. Rick Scott and his Teapublican super-majority legislature have decided this is fair treatment.

Tea Party Republican Billionaire Gov. Rick Scott was the CEO of the corporation convicted of the biggest fraud against Medicare in history. When questioned personally he repeatedly refused to answer on the grounds that it might incriminate him, yet his money paid for TV messages that got him elected.

This Mother Jones article is filled with details and examples of this series of these
Crimes Against Humanity.

From high-speed trains to care for terminally ill kids: a few of the federal grants Florida has turned down

$2.4 billion: High-speed rail
$37.5 million: Support for people moving out of nursing homes
$31.5 million: Home visits for new mothers
$11.1 million: Teen pregnancy and STD prevention
$8.3 million: Three county health centers
$2.1 million: Helping Floridians navigate the health insurance industry
$2 million: Hospice care for children
$2 million: Aid for seniors to pay for Medicare premiums and buy prescription drugs
$1 million: Strengthening state review of insurance premium increases
$1 million: Insurance exchange to help consumers compare plans and buy subsidized coverage
$875,000: Cancer prevention

http://reclaimreform.com/2013/02/20/crimes-against-humanity-florida/


But of all the big pots of federal money that Florida has rejected, none quite compares with Scott's moves to block Obamacare's expansion of Medicaid to the working poor. Today, a single parent with two children can't qualify for Medicaid in Florida if she makes more than $3,200 a year—one of the nation's lowest eligibility levels. Obamacare provides funding to raise that ceiling to $25,390 for a family of three...

If Florida rejects the Medicaid expansion, state hospitals stand to lose about $654 million a year in federal payments for care to the uninsured—payments that were reduced in Obamacare on the assumption that hospitals would gain revenue by caring for the newly insured.

Added to the end of the article:

UPDATE, Thursday, February 21: On Wednesday, Scott announced that he had changed his mind about the Medicaid expansion and would support extending Medicaid to people up to 138 percent of the poverty line for three years, after which the program would have to be reevaluated. The state Legislature, however, still has to approve such a move, and it's unclear whether there is enough support for it among the GOP majority, despite Scott's change of heart.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/florida-tea-party-backlash-rick-scott?page=1

hat tip to hayrick...

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jehop61 Feb 2013 #1
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #3
Divernan Feb 2013 #2
sinkingfeeling Feb 2013 #4
RKP5637 Feb 2013 #5
frazzled Feb 2013 #6
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #7
hay rick Feb 2013 #8
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #9

Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:35 PM

1. Better check your facts

Medicare is a federal program that we are entitled to at 65 no matter what our income. As for Medicaid, each sets its rules with certain federal mandates.

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Response to jehop61 (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:37 PM

3. i know that which is why i'm asking for clarification from people who know florida. I'm wondering

 

if the blogger didn't mean medicaid, or if he was referring to a specific component of medicare.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:36 PM

2. I think you mean Medicaid (for low income people), not Medicare (for us older folks).

I qualify for Medicare, whatever my income, as long as I'm 65 or older.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:38 PM

4. Anybody over the age of 65 is eligible for Medicare. Do you mean Medicaid?

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 04:38 PM

5. As far as I know, Medicare is a federal program, the state doesn't get to make calls on

ones eligibility or not. If the $3,200 were true, none could collect Medicare.

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 05:00 PM

6. The link to Mother Jones says "Medicaid"

and further says "and the state seems set to reject Obamacare subsidies that would fix that."

That is now changed: Scott will be expanding Medicaid (by taking federal dollars) in Florida.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 05:02 PM

7. thanks. duh, i guess i should have checked the link first.

 

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Response to HiPointDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 05:04 PM

8. Medicaid.

Blogger substituted the wrong program name. He links to this Mother Jones article: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/02/florida-tea-party-backlash-rick-scott?page=1

From the article:

But of all the big pots of federal money that Florida has rejected, none quite compares with Scott's moves to block Obamacare's expansion of Medicaid to the working poor. Today, a single parent with two children can't qualify for Medicaid in Florida if she makes more than $3,200 a year—one of the nation's lowest eligibility levels. Obamacare provides funding to raise that ceiling to $25,390 for a family of three. The federal government would pick up 100 percent of the cost of the expansion for the first three years, and 90 percent in later years—sending about $73 billion in new funding to the state in the next decade, with Florida's share of the bill totaling just $9 billion. "At the most, the state would have to spend 10 cents for every dollar" it gets back, explains Laura Goodhue, the executive director of Florida Community Health Action Information Network, a nonprofit group that advocates for the uninsured. But Scott has said even that is too much.

If Florida rejects the Medicaid expansion, state hospitals stand to lose about $654 million a year in federal payments for care to the uninsured—payments that were reduced in Obamacare on the assumption that hospitals would gain revenue by caring for the newly insured. The hospitals, particularly public ones that have already lost $1.5 billion to state budget cuts over the past eight years, have been lobbying hard for the expansion, but tea partiers have been equally vocal, and in June, Scott announced that he would be rejecting the Medicaid expansion. "We don't need to expand a big-government program to provide for everyone's needs," he said. "What we need is to shrink the cost of health care and expand opportunities for people to get a job so more people can afford it."


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UPDATE, Thursday, February 21: On Wednesday, Scott announced that he had changed his mind about the Medicaid expansion and would support extending Medicaid to people up to 138 percent of the poverty line for three years, after which the program would have to be reevaluated. The state Legislature, however, still has to approve such a move, and it's unclear whether there is enough support for it among the GOP majority, despite Scott's change of heart.


There have been a couple of posts here on this recent development:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014404564
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022404945
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022405297

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Response to hay rick (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 05:06 PM

9. thanks. i should have checked out the link.

 

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