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Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:31 AM

French criticise 'ignorant' comments by US tyre boss

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21530619

A French minister has responded angrily to the boss of US tyremaker Titan who said he would have to be "stupid" to invest in the country.

Maurice Taylor made the claims in a letter to France's minister for industrial recovery, Arnaud Montebourg.

On Thursday, Mr Montebourg replied that Mr Taylor's "extreme" comments showed a "perfect ignorance of what our country is".

He added that 20,000 foreign firms are in France, employing 2 million people.

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Reply French criticise 'ignorant' comments by US tyre boss (Original post)
steve2470 Feb 2013 OP
ProgressiveProfessor Feb 2013 #1
steve2470 Feb 2013 #2
sweetapogee Feb 2013 #3
badtoworse Feb 2013 #4
Nine Feb 2013 #5
joeybee12 Feb 2013 #6
badtoworse Feb 2013 #8
joeybee12 Feb 2013 #10
badtoworse Feb 2013 #13
steve2470 Feb 2013 #12
bullwinkle428 Feb 2013 #7
Rex Feb 2013 #9
Yavin4 Feb 2013 #11
Bake Feb 2013 #14

Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:44 AM

1. Why is the tire factory shutdown and why won't an existing company pick it up?

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 10:47 AM

2. good questions nt

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:00 AM

3. I can think of 2 possible solutions

One solution and the best I feel is that the employees should buy the plant and run it. The second option would be for a French company like Michelin should buy it and run it. Then there is a combo solution, a 50% partial employee buyout coupled with a corporate buyout.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:14 AM

4. Would you pay for 8 hours of work and settle for only 3?

 

When Taylor claimed this was the case at the tire plant, the union people did not dispute it. They said it was "the French way".

Is anyone surprised the plant is closing?

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Response to badtoworse (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:25 AM

5. Well, *Taylor* claims they didn't dispute it.

We don't know whether that's true or not. Look, if he doesn't want to invest in the plant, don't invest. I don't know much about French labor law, but a paid hour for lunch and breaks doesn't seem crazy. Americans used to work "9 to 5" with a paid lunch break and the country did just fine. Now there are plenty of American factories and businesses where employees work eight hours and get an unpaid lunch hour and those businesses are still not doing well.

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Response to Nine (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:38 AM

6. Exactly...it's what Taylor says they said...

And Taylor is a POS

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:46 AM

8. Has the union issued a statement?

 

Given the bad press they got, I would expect one, unless they're willing to let Taylor's statement stand.

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Response to badtoworse (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:49 AM

10. You're really stretching it, aren't you?

Why would they get into a pissing match with this fool...the Ministry has responded...no need for anything else.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #10)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:19 PM

13. i don't think so

 

The fact is the plant is closing and apparently, the French government can't find anyone willing to invest in keeping it open. It's arguable whether Taylor was exaggerating, but at the same time, I didn't see anything dindicating the union was willing to deal on productivity.

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Response to badtoworse (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:56 AM

12. La lettre au vitriol de Titan Montebourg

http://www.europe1.fr/Economie/La-lettre-au-vitriol-de-Titan-a-Montebourg-1421439/

Not exactly what you're looking for, but close perhaps. I don't speak French unfortunately. There's more French language links at the BBC article.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:45 AM

7. Taylor actually was a Repuke presidential candidate in the 1996 campaign -

his problem was that he just pre-dated the tea-bagger movement by several years! Who knows what kind of traction (no pun intended) he would have gained if that movement was alive and active back then.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:48 AM

9. France to tyre tyrant - hit the road Jack.

nt.

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Response to steve2470 (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 11:53 AM

11. Hey France! Just Tell Mr. Taylor, You Don't Employ Us. You Don't Get To Sell To Us.

Sell your tires to your Indian and Chinese workers. I'm sure that they can buy your tires with their $1 per hour wages.

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Response to Yavin4 (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 01:40 PM

14. Exactly. That's what we should do here in the US.

If our workers aren't good enough to make their sh*tty products, they shouldn't be allowed to sell the crap here. That would effectively close the biggest consumer market in the world. That MIGHT get the bastards' attention.

Bake

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