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Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:26 PM

For Those Unhappy/Critical Of Rachel Maddow's 'Hubris' Last Night... I Agree, And Disagree...

Because of who we are, and where we are... DU.

We've been going through the lies, recklessness, immorality, and illegality of the Iraq War and attending events for a decade or so. We learned so much here, because we are on one of the greatest information clearing houses on the planet. We post, report, share, and challenge each other every day.

So yes, there is so much more to say (and demand) than was broadcast last night.

But think about this...

Because of people like us, and many other sites, who remain largely unknown to the general public. Despite our research, discussion, argument, etc...

To MOST people... last night's information was brand spanking new. And...

Subtract the last ten years from the voting age...

Someone who is able to vote NOW, was 8 years old when all this happened. But now that they can vote, now they can know.

The show could have been three hours long, hell it could be a fucking mini-series, an epic...

And maybe someday it will be.

But like I like to say... I want it on the record.

And as the Republicans self-immolate, and as the "liberal" media starts out-pacing the NutBag media...

I'm Ok with last night's show.

I'll bet you the majority of people who watched... had NO IDEA.


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Reply For Those Unhappy/Critical Of Rachel Maddow's 'Hubris' Last Night... I Agree, And Disagree... (Original post)
WillyT Feb 2013 OP
kairos12 Feb 2013 #1
HereSince1628 Feb 2013 #2
Enrique Feb 2013 #5
Hissyspit Feb 2013 #9
Hissyspit Feb 2013 #10
madfloridian Feb 2013 #11
avebury Feb 2013 #3
senseandsensibility Feb 2013 #4
WillyT Feb 2013 #6
NightWatcher Feb 2013 #7
WillyT Feb 2013 #8
JDPriestly Feb 2013 #12
hay rick Feb 2013 #13

Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:30 PM

1. Agree.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:31 PM

2. I don't believe it was new at all... it was mostly old NBC news video

I'm ok with Hubris as a 10 year anniversary show.

I think it left much of the background needed to understand it unsaid, but "The Power of Nightmares" BBC series is online for those who care about getting a limited grasp on that.

I can believe that most people under age 26 are clueless. I can believe that a large fraction of people 27 and older are clueless...mostly by choice.

Accept it as a 10 year after the fact perspective, mostly based on news accounts. I think it's fine considered as such.


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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:40 PM

5. that's how i looked at it

i wouldn't mind seeing annual commemorations like this, we need to be reminded. Just drop the stuff about "this is going to upset some people" etc.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:23 PM

10. Greenwald's "Uncovered: The War On Iraq," Frontline: Bush's War"

"No End In Sight." I had forgotten "Power of Nightmares," thanks.

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Response to Hissyspit (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:31 PM

11. Greenwald deserves far more attention than he gets.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:33 PM

3. I think that it works to show the total

hypocrisy of the wingnuts like McCain and Graham by putting their rabid response to Benghazi in comparison to the Bush Administration lies that got us into war.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:37 PM

4. Yeah, it wasn't really for us...

but then we don't need to be educated about this. I appreciate the effort to stop the rewriting of history that is currently being undetaken by neocons and repugs like McCain. We would be stupid to think that we can move on because we have been proven right. In fact, if we're smart we'll keep screaming about this for decades to come. We're up against very powerful forces that will stop at nothing to rewrite history, just as they stopped at nothing to sell the war.

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Response to senseandsensibility (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:40 PM

6. Exactly !!!




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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:41 PM

7. You really think that a lot of Rachel watchers didn't already have this idea?

Air America sprang forth amidst these lies during the shrub's first admin and that's where many of us met Rachel. I'd be willing to bet that most of the (how many) people that watched it knew, and were against the wars because of the hubris and propaganda.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 08:46 PM

8. Oh Sure They Did... But We're Talking Percentages Here...

How many people (in the total U.S. population) regularly read a newspaper ?

A book ?

Academic papers ?

What I'm saying... is that it is not WE, that need to be convinced.

It is the rest, that needs to be taught.

So that it does not happen again.





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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:49 PM

12. Thanks WillyT. I agree.

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Response to WillyT (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:27 PM

13. So little, so late- but I agree.

For myself and most others here, there was little or no new information in "Hubris" and watching the rehash was a painful reopening of old wounds. However, our marginal ignorance is not an important problem- the real problem is the massive number of Americans who are uninformed and misinformed on the neocon's war. This show is a step toward addressing that pressing need.

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