Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:53 PM

obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)

Reeva Steenkamp's killer will have a bench trial

South Africa doesn't have trial by jury. I think, in this case, it may help keep the "cult of personality" from coloring the verdict ala Robert Blake.

Reeva Steenkamp was her name.

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Reeva Steenkamp's killer will have a bench trial (Original post)	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	OP
I continue to be shocked by this	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#1
He was also apparently very paranoid..he slept with a gun under	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#2
Apparently steroids were found in the house	KamaAina	Feb 2013	#6
This story gets weirder and weirder...	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#12
Ding ding we have a winner	malaise	Feb 2013	#29
In South Africa, windows are barred.	aquart	Feb 2013	#51
Ithink it is national, from what others have posted...nt	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#55
And a history of domestic calls	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#3
actually I heard that wasn't the case	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#5
Yes, it was	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#18
I found an incident of him being arrested for assaulting a woman in 2009	REP	Feb 2013	#48
A lot of abusers manage to seem like great people to the public.	redqueen	Feb 2013	#8
true	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#13
Very true.	redqueen	Feb 2013	#23
OJ was really beloved before he was revealed to be a serial domestic abuser	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#10
not the same	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#14
Give this case a few days or weeks.	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#16
good points	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#17
No incident of domestic violence surprises me.	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#20
One report on the news this morning was of the comments made by the mother of one of his exes.	redqueen	Feb 2013	#21
I didn't see that	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#24
I'll stick with trial by jury, thank you.	Bake	Feb 2013	#4
He admits to killing her	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#7
And again, I'll stick with a jury.	Bake	Feb 2013	#11
I hear you.	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#15
We often have a choice to have a bench trial	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#19
If I'm a defendant in a criminal matter, I'll take a jury ANY DAY.	Bake	Feb 2013	#27
Depends. Jury trials in the deep south during the civil rights era	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#22
An excellent point that many might not consider.	redqueen	Feb 2013	#25
This was the same case in SA.	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#26
That's what I read	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#43
Depends on your point of view, and this isn't the 1960s.	Bake	Feb 2013	#28
Of course defendant will take a jury trial if he's rich and a celebrity.	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#31
Again, this isn't the 1960s anymore.	Bake	Feb 2013	#32
Sure, and if you're a celebrity who has limitless resources and has an adoring	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#33
You've already decided he's guilty as hell, just like Robert Blake.	Bake	Feb 2013	#34
I'm not likely to sit on a South African jury, or one in Mississippi, so	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#37
I don't know	dsc	Feb 2013	#52
You go to Jefferson County, Mississippi and tell me who's serving on juries.	Bake	Feb 2013	#35
This guy ain't standing trial in Jefferson, MS.	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#38
Exactly, which is why I think this will be a more legit trial	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#44
South Africa is far worse	HappyMe	Feb 2013	#40
I can't speak to S. Africa. I just resent the bias against all jury trials.	Bake	Feb 2013	#41
Jury trials can be more fair, they can be less fair.	geek tragedy	Feb 2013	#45
My OP is about a South African case	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#46
Very, very rarely would a criminal defendant in the US want a bench trial.	Bake	Feb 2013	#49
This message was self-deleted by its author	DevonRex	Feb 2013	#56
Right, or where the jury may be biased because of media, etc.	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#42
K&R	Starry Messenger	Feb 2013	#9
She had such a great future ahead of her. I hope her family gets justice, whatever that may be.	polly7	Feb 2013	#30
Jury or Bench, the sad thing is most in america do not get EITHER any more	CBGLuthier	Feb 2013	#36
the problem with his story	riverwalker	Feb 2013	#39
Unless she went in there and locked the door to get away from him.	Avalux	Feb 2013	#47
she fled to the bathroom to get away from him	TorchTheWitch	Feb 2013	#50
where did you read about the autopsy?	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#54
one of the articles I read or several of them	TorchTheWitch	Feb 2013	#61
the autopsy hasn't been released	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#63
and people also leak info to the press on "big" crimes	TorchTheWitch	Feb 2013	#65
i haven't read the details but if what you say is true that seems the most likely Case	JI7	Feb 2013	#57
CCTV shows her being there from late afternoon on	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#58
one of the many articles	TorchTheWitch	Feb 2013	#60
good point	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#53
This is the story he told in court today	obamanut2012	Feb 2013	#59
Even if his story were true	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#64
I'm not buying his story either. I hope justice is served.	smirkymonkey	Feb 2013	#62

Response to obamanut2012 (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:00 PM

BainsBane (9,559 posts)

1. I continue to be shocked by this

All the more after reading that he shot her through the bathroom door and claims he thought she was an intruder. Pistorius seemed like a really great guy when I saw him covered at the Olympics last summer.

Reeva Steenkamp's killer will have a bench trial

1. I continue to be shocked by this

2. He was also apparently very paranoid..he slept with a gun under

6. Apparently steroids were found in the house

12. This story gets weirder and weirder...

29. Ding ding we have a winner

51. In South Africa, windows are barred.

55. Ithink it is national, from what others have posted...nt

3. And a history of domestic calls

5. actually I heard that wasn't the case

18. Yes, it was

48. I found an incident of him being arrested for assaulting a woman in 2009

8. A lot of abusers manage to seem like great people to the public.

13. true

23. Very true.

10. OJ was really beloved before he was revealed to be a serial domestic abuser

14. not the same

16. Give this case a few days or weeks.

17. good points

20. No incident of domestic violence surprises me.

21. One report on the news this morning was of the comments made by the mother of one of his exes.

24. I didn't see that

4. I'll stick with trial by jury, thank you.

7. He admits to killing her

11. And again, I'll stick with a jury.

15. I hear you.

19. We often have a choice to have a bench trial

27. If I'm a defendant in a criminal matter, I'll take a jury ANY DAY.

22. Depends. Jury trials in the deep south during the civil rights era

25. An excellent point that many might not consider.

26. This was the same case in SA.

43. That's what I read

28. Depends on your point of view, and this isn't the 1960s.

31. Of course defendant will take a jury trial if he's rich and a celebrity.

32. Again, this isn't the 1960s anymore.

33. Sure, and if you're a celebrity who has limitless resources and has an adoring

34. You've already decided he's guilty as hell, just like Robert Blake.

37. I'm not likely to sit on a South African jury, or one in Mississippi, so

52. I don't know

35. You go to Jefferson County, Mississippi and tell me who's serving on juries.

38. This guy ain't standing trial in Jefferson, MS.

44. Exactly, which is why I think this will be a more legit trial

40. South Africa is far worse

41. I can't speak to S. Africa. I just resent the bias against all jury trials.

45. Jury trials can be more fair, they can be less fair.

46. My OP is about a South African case

49. Very, very rarely would a criminal defendant in the US want a bench trial.

42. Right, or where the jury may be biased because of media, etc.

9. K&R

30. She had such a great future ahead of her. I hope her family gets justice, whatever that may be.

36. Jury or Bench, the sad thing is most in america do not get EITHER any more

39. the problem with his story

47. Unless she went in there and locked the door to get away from him.

50. she fled to the bathroom to get away from him

54. where did you read about the autopsy?

61. one of the articles I read or several of them

63. the autopsy hasn't been released

65. and people also leak info to the press on "big" crimes

57. i haven't read the details but if what you say is true that seems the most likely Case

58. CCTV shows her being there from late afternoon on

60. one of the many articles

53. good point

59. This is the story he told in court today

64. Even if his story were true

62. I'm not buying his story either. I hope justice is served.