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Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:11 AM

Chuck Todd too. No mention of 'Hubris'.

After Morning Joke willfully ignored the 'Hubris' special for 3 hours (shame on you Mika. Not even a nod for a good job?) Chuck Todd now has billboarded his show with no mention of it either.

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:13 AM

1. all i expect from todd is hubris

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:19 AM

2. Of course. It shames the Bewsh administration.

These jokes should never have been allowed to manage a Burger King, let alone a country. It pretty much exemplifies the Corporate media'$ role in allowing 43's Reign of Fail to get away with all that they did . . . and that legacy lives on to this day.

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:32 AM

3. Mika's not a Democrat. She just plays one on TV. We should just assume this by now.

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 09:51 AM

4. They know they were used willingly. MSNBC back then was programmed specifically to support Bush

and his military decisions. Remember when anti-war voices would NOT be BOOKED by the production offices, and 90% of the guests booked were Republicans or pro-Bush Dems like Lieberman?

Heck - Lawrence O'Donnell was blackballed in fall of 2004 for calling out one of the Swiftliars for lying blatantly.

MSNBC kept a tight grip on any dissent of Bush (even Olbermann) until 2006.

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Response to blm (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:04 AM

5. +1,000,000 nt

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Response to blm (Reply #4)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:07 AM

6. Exactly. msnbc fired Donahue even though

he had the highest rated show on their network at the time.

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:15 AM

7. I don't get this...Hubris wasn't a news story

it was a documentary and presented nearly nothing new.

The nation KNOWS it was lied into this war. It was obvious to most at the time the lies were being told. The occupation of Iraq and the search for WMD that came up with nothing made the truth about the lying unchallengeable.

The nation, and the western world turned away from reacting to the truth about the lies years ago.

Why would it be news, now?

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:18 AM

8. Much of the nation doesn't know that.

Close to half of the nation can't find Iraq on a globe if you turn it such that Iraq is facing them.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:10 AM

10. I don't disagree, but 'populus sunt ignarus' isn't a defense of Hubris as "news"

Hubris was a 10th anniversary historical piece.

I didn't see where it presented anything that rose to the level of novel revelations/insights that would be expected of something newsworthy.

I'd be interested in examples of places where it did provide anything newsworthy, because I missed them.

The documentary's value seems to be in the heuristic nature of a historical piece. It captures in one place a lot of old video and some video commentary, that mostly restates positions expressed previously.

As history often is, it's aimed at educating "much of the nation" more than it is at making news. Being presented on MSNBC, it probably didn't reach them.

The venue had it preaching to the choir who were probably much like me, lip-synching to most of the video clips.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:35 AM

11. at the very least, I think, it refreshes the memory..

as people like Dick Cheney get up and say Obama's choices
for national defense are second-rate, and McCain vomits
his arrogant national security outrage all over television.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:37 AM

12. also newsworthy for me personally -- I had somehow missed it when it happened --

was the conversion and conscience of Walter Jones.
His interview clips almost made me cry.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:02 PM

14. Many news shows have mentioned the fact that the 10th anniversay is approaching.

News shows often talk about past events. McCain and Graham's grandstanding on Bengazhi also make the Iraq war, and other such WMD cheerleaders, relevant.

And you can bet that Joe Scab and Chuck Toad will mention the anniversary, and yet probably also avoid mentioning much about why it happened, or how how well Rachel did summarizing it.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 02:05 PM

16. That wasn't an argument that Hubris is/was newsworthy and SHOULD be discussed as news

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today on other MSNBC shows, either.

Hubris should be news because Neocon supporters are now grandstanding on Bengazhi? Really? You think we should get our knickers in an uncomfortable knot because of this?

Oh my.










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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 10:19 AM

9. Todd and Scarborough

by not commenting on the show, risk being misread. Professional jealousy? Todd's body language and manner of speaking are very uncomfortable whenever he is on the air with Rachel and Scarborough won't even be on the air with her. Perhaps they fear appearing woefully inadequate in comparison. Mika probably agrees with Rachel but is so browbeaten by Joe and Todd that she won't dare speak up.

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Response to Graybeard (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:02 PM

13. Oh please, that was on last night.

The thousands of upon thousands dead? Yeah, so? Ancient history.

Now let's talk Benghazi...

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Response to tavernier (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 01:03 PM

15. +1

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