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Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:21 PM

 

What is your opinion of Donald Rumsfeld?

I'm doing a thread series of asking for your opinions regarding this group. Next up is Donald Rumsfeld, who served as Secretary of Defense under the Bush administration. What do you think about him? This is a wide open question. For instance, you can talk about his influence or his stature in the Bush administration. Or compare and contrast him with other group members. Or post about his personal qualities. Whatever you please. Thank you.


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Reply What is your opinion of Donald Rumsfeld? (Original post)
quinnox Feb 2013 OP
el_bryanto Feb 2013 #1
Puzzledtraveller Feb 2013 #2
TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #3
Cary Feb 2013 #4
Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #5
think Feb 2013 #29
Mnemosyne Feb 2013 #57
Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2013 #6
Ganja Ninja Feb 2013 #7
Jackpine Radical Feb 2013 #8
quinnox Feb 2013 #14
lunatica Feb 2013 #9
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #15
PDJane Feb 2013 #10
Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #11
Ikonoklast Feb 2013 #12
Capt.Rocky300 Feb 2013 #13
Flashmann Feb 2013 #16
sarisataka Feb 2013 #17
Brother Buzz Feb 2013 #18
HangOnKids Feb 2013 #19
kentauros Feb 2013 #20
quinnox Feb 2013 #21
kentauros Feb 2013 #25
Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #22
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #27
Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #55
Octafish Feb 2013 #23
RebelOne Feb 2013 #24
WinkyDink Feb 2013 #26
pinboy3niner Feb 2013 #28
Capt. Obvious Feb 2013 #30
louis-t Feb 2013 #41
Javaman Feb 2013 #31
Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2013 #32
Cleita Feb 2013 #33
EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #34
AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2013 #35
Auntie Bush Feb 2013 #47
Coyotl Feb 2013 #36
SOVermonter Feb 2013 #37
tledford Feb 2013 #38
bemildred Feb 2013 #39
louis-t Feb 2013 #40
Autumn Feb 2013 #42
GoCubsGo Feb 2013 #43
Lint Head Feb 2013 #44
backscatter712 Feb 2013 #45
madinmaryland Feb 2013 #46
War Horse Feb 2013 #48
Gorp Feb 2013 #49
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #50
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2013 #51
indepat Feb 2013 #52
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stevenleser Feb 2013 #56

Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:24 PM

1. I liked the way he answered his own questions - saved me the trouble of thinking

I suspect that many people didn't like him, but that's only because he pushed us into warm and then acted monstrously uncaring when we saw the difficulties his war had created.

Bryant

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:24 PM

2. Count Dooku

He's like the Count Dooku of the Darth Bush saga.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:27 PM

3. Best friend that defense contractors ever had.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:27 PM

4. You know what I like about Donald Rumsfeld?

Nothing.

I don't like his neoconservatism. I don't like his role in the invasion of Iraq and I hold him personally responsible for a large share of the blame in what has to be our worst foreign policy blunder in history. I don't like his arrogance. I don't like his hubris.

The only thing he's useful for is an example of what we don't want in a Secretary of Defense.

And too, let's not forget his role in trying to legitimate torture.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:27 PM

5. Worthless pos. War criminal and traitor. nt

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Response to Mnemosyne (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:16 PM

29. +1

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Response to think (Reply #29)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 07:52 PM

57. And that was being nice.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:28 PM

6. Didn't he used to be somebody?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:29 PM

7. War Criminal

Sold Saddam gas weapons among other things.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:30 PM

8. Donald Rumsfeld? The mass-murdering liar

and insufferably arrogant enabler of the criminal Bush regime? The guy who pushed us into a needless war that killed thousands of Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis?

THAT Donald Rumsfeld?

Oh, I'd say I'm sort of neutral on him. Why do you ask?

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:36 PM

14. lol

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:30 PM

9. There's a lot of known knowns about him

But there's also a lot of unkown unknowns too. Like does he have a clue about where the WMDs are other than East, West, North or South of Baghdad? Some questions are simply unanswerable so he unanswered them.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #9)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:36 PM

15. Don stated that he knew where the WMD were. His lies were among the most brash and harmful.

"We know where they are. They’re in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." Don Rumsfeld on the WMD we invaded Iraq to intercept.


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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:31 PM

10. All of the above.

He swallowed the whole neo-con theory of empire when a teen, and everything he has done since has been improvements on a theme. This is a man who was a bright young thing hired during the Nixon administration; not a man I'd want teaching interns!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:32 PM

11. The Paymaster of Abu Ghraib.

What can be said? If we had not been ordered to 'look forward and turn the page' he'd be in prison.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:33 PM

12. Herr Baron Von Rumsfled would have fit right in with the National Socialist Party.

He's a lying Fascist that puts Profit before everything else, including country.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:35 PM

13. My older brother knew him and Cheney..........

when he was a military liaison officer in D.C. back in the early '80's. Before he passed away in 2003 he told me, and I'll never forget his words, "Cheney and Rumsfeld are two of the most dangerous men on the planet."

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Response to Capt.Rocky300 (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:37 PM

16. The very first 2 words that come to mind are:

War Criminal!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:37 PM

17. Unprintable

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:41 PM

18. I was just a dumb draftee that added "no value, no advantage, really, to the US armed services...

and you want my opinion of the asshole?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:42 PM

19. Short chain smoking cretin

 

Who can't play tennis worth a tinkers damn. Oh and a fucking GREEDY WAR WHORE.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:42 PM

20. Evil.

That said, did you know that the documentary director Errol Morris has filmed interviews of Rumsfeld for a "Fog of War" type movie? Here's the title and link to IMDb:

The Unknown Known: The Life and Times of Donald Rumsfeld

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Response to kentauros (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:45 PM

21. I wasn't aware of that, thanks for the link

 

I would be interested to see that documentary when it is released.

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Response to quinnox (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:03 PM

25. You're welcome.

And while I can't stand Rumsfeld, Errol Morris is brilliant with his documentaries. I've got "Fog of War" on my DVR at home, and I think it's about time I watched it again.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:49 PM

22. The man who lost $2.3 trillion

the day before 9/11

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:10 PM

27. Indeed, if by "lost" you mean "re-routed to Switzerland."

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Response to WinkyDink (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:23 PM

55. I wonder if the US government tracked it?

it has probably been filtered out of Switzerland through the Isle of Man, Caymans and who knows where. Perhaps this government could go look for it?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:50 PM

23. Crook hired Dick Cheney and covered up CIA murder of a good man and patriot.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 01:50 PM

24. Hate the SOB. n/t

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:09 PM

26. 100% TRAITOR. Same answer for all your BushCo threads. Next question?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:15 PM

28. You go 2 war with the SecDef you have--not the SecDef you might want or wish to have at a later time

Much to our regret.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:17 PM

30. My views on the man

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #30)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:27 PM

41. Giggety.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:18 PM

31. My opinion would ban me. I'll leave it at that. nt

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:20 PM

32. Ummmm, let's just say, "not good."

Yeah, that's it. "Not good."

(I gave up swearing for Lent. )

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:21 PM

33. Isn't he whom Star War nerd DUers named Emperor Palatine?

If they didn't, I still think it's an apt description of who he is and what he stands for.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:21 PM

34. A known unknown of things you know that's known and I don't know.

 

Better at mass murder than lying.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:27 PM

35. UNPROSECUTED War Criminal

 

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Response to AnotherMcIntosh (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:25 PM

47. That's it in a nut shell!

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:30 PM

36. As low as low can go.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:39 PM

37. I try...

not to think about him at all. But Rumsfeld was perhaps the most evil member of the most evil Administration in this country's history. Some of his colleagues were colossaly stupid, some were colossaly arrogant, others were colossaly deceitful. Rumsfeld, in my opinion, was (and is) ALL of the above. I guess you could say he hit Bush's trifecta.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 02:40 PM

38. War criminal who should be in prison for the rest of his life.

Nothing else really matters.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:24 PM

39. Ignorant, arrogant, fool.

And now, has been.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:26 PM

40. Most incompetant Sec of Def ever.

Thought the US could take over a country of 25 mil with 30,000 troops.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:29 PM

42. A steaming, stinking pile of shit covered with flies would be a

better being than him.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 03:33 PM

43. Human excrement.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:05 PM

44. Murderous fucker. Treasonous criminal liar.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:11 PM

45. The Antichrist in Depends... n/t

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:16 PM

46. Well, my explanation below says everything you need to know about Donald Rumsfeld...

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"




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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 04:39 PM

48. He always seemed like a loving grandfatherly type to me

Emphatic, too. He'd stand for 8 over hours a day just to show sympathy with those tortured at Abu Ghraib, Bagram etc.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:07 PM

49. War criminal, no less.

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:11 PM

50. 40+ year history of sleaze and corruption. One of the Grand Masters of the revolving door. n/t

 

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:14 PM

51. That he should fry in Hell, maybe?

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:23 PM

52. Can't answer in absence of a full accounting/disclosure of all his actions, inactions,

whereabouts, and decisions surrounding 9-11. My guess is history will not be kind if such revelations are forthcoming.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 05:28 PM

53. Scum of the Earth

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 06:24 PM

54. Distracted War Criminal

The book Insurgents, which details the efforts of military leaders attempts to reshape combat strategy, cites examples of Rumsfeld having lost interest in the Iraq War. How could someone who led the US into one of its dumbest mistakes ever just decide to ignore its aftermath. What a pitiful excuse for a human being.

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Response to quinnox (Original post)

Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:35 PM

56. War criminal AND an ineffective and incompetent Secretary of Defense. nt

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